>Hitler's origin story is degraded to that of a comic book villain >Hitler is an insufferable autist with no redeeming features whatsoever >literally who Ernst Hanfstaengel is essentially treated as Hitler's number two, despite having nowhere near as much importance in reality >none of Hitler's henchmen are portrayed accurately, or even look like their real life counterparts >Hitler's henchmen do virtually nothing, except for Roehm who is unrecognizable >events happen in completely the wrong order >Hitler's relationship with Raubal is completely inaccurate >scratch that, EVERYFUCKINGTHING is completely fucking inaccurate, seemingly without reason since it would have been EASIER to follow reality a lot of the time >there's no reason whatsoever why anyone would follow Hitler >his speeches are garbage >even O'Toole is fucking garbage >all the Gerlich (reporter) scenes
How did they fuck this up so badly?
I still can't believe there are people who defend this
Don't forget the bit where they show him literally kicking a puppy Got to say this piece of crap dented my respect for Robbie Carlyle a little
Isaiah Cox
>titled RISE OF EVIL >expecting anything other than leftist propaganda
Dominic Kelly
I stopped watching when he started beating his dog. Hitler would never ever hurt a pupper.
This is pure propaganda.
Christopher Perry
This. He was a vegetarian and loved animals.
Parker Wilson
I'd like to see Hitler do a Bob Ross-esque show for the early BBC, thus averting world war 2
Samuel Diaz
Me too
Samuel Hill
Are we going to see a real unbiased bio pic/show about Hitler before we die?
John Nelson
shitler dindu nuthin
Cameron Baker
Did you watch the movie? Its literally nothing like you described, it was terrific, it just ended before things got good
Samuel Mitchell
is Max with Noah Taylor any good?
Andrew Ross
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Zachary Phillips
>unbiased You mean favorable, you transparent moron?
Zachary Harris
Anything other than "HITLER WAS THE ULTIMATE EMBODIMENT OF PURE EVIL" is considered favorable to normies.
Jordan Flores
Downfall is surprisingly unbiased
Jordan Jones
>The rise of evil Even though it's about Hitler, I can't take that name seriously. I'm surprised the box art is not Hitler eating babies with one hand and raping russians with the other. You know, to really send a message.
Andrew Williams
Hitler was an alright guy. Himmler and his inner circle were some maniacs, though.
Landon Thompson
Reminder that Hitler forced his dog to bite a cyanide capsule a few days before his death
Reminder that he ate eat frequently before 1929
Jose Williams
you can make a movie about hitler that isn't "favorable" without telling outright fabrications about him. The dog beating made no fucking sense.
John Perry
and?
Leo Johnson
>Hitler sadly makes pupper eat cyanide because he knows what the Commies will do if they find his dog. Poor Hitler.
Wyatt Wright
>stops his dog from getting raped to death >bad
Lincoln Scott
kek jewspotting
Ryan Ortiz
*upvotes*
Grayson Cooper
Doing a movie on Hitler? You can't actually do it any other way then as depiction of evil. Any other film would be shut down as a HATE CRIME.
Simply. To do any movie about an serial killer or other criminal, especially that of a infamous Hitler, who's known for bigotry is illegal in the same way as ISIS.
It doesn't matter who it is, promoting HATE CRIMES is inciting HATE CRIMES which is the only taboo in art and free speech.
He's a war criminal. You can't make a flatting film about hitler, osama, or hussien.
Sympathetic, realistic, pragmatic, but Hitler is literally a meme to it self, with enemies that have killed people for doing anything related to him.
Israel isn't one of the most advanced armies and spec ops for NOTHING. Those bitches hunt down Nazis.
Nathan Rivera
I was surprised honestly. They still shoehorned a few cuck themes but that was really several orders of magnitude lower than usual.
I guess the fact it was about Germany's defeat may have puzzled the yid producers. A similar movie about the year 1934 wouldn't get the greenlight.
Owen Walker
What are you even trying to say you twit
Andrew Robinson
a favorable movie would be considered a hate crime. >inb4 "muh jewish sympathizers" He orchestrated WW2, one of the biggest wars in the world ending with nuclear weapons first and only times used.
Not a small war about human rights...
He caused it
>inb4 "The black hand started it"
He was looking to start a war.
Julian Rivera
FAVORABLE FILM ABOUT HITLER IS A HATE CRIME.
IT'S ILLEGAL ON A CONSTITUTIONAL LEVEL.
IT WOULD NOT BE HARD FOR ALMOST ANY GOVERNMENT IN THE WORLD TO SHUT DOWN PRODUCTION, LET ALONE DISTRIBUTION, LET ALONE PUBLICATION OF ANY FILM THAT WAS FAVORABLE TO ADOLF HITLER.
Downfall did it right, but if you had any understanding of Entertainment Law, you'll know it's a fine line to make an accurate depiction of Hitler.
Dominic Peterson
It doesn't need to be overtly favorable, just balanced. Of course even that would be a hatecrime to the normies who have spent their entire lives being brainwashed on how Hitler is the most evil man of all time.
James Thompson
This desu
They should just dispense with any notion of showing as either a 'dindu nuffin' or 'liderally hidler ;_;'
They should just make a film set between 1936 - 1938, showing him as the political genius that he was and as a straight boss, not condoning his actions but at the same time, not trying to understate how fucking impressive his achievements were.
Lucas Smith
Scorsese makes flattering movies about criminals all the time.
Xavier Anderson
>Hitler's origin story is degraded to that of a comic book villain
HE WAS A SHRIEKING LUNATIC MADMAN WHO WANTED TO CONQUER THE WORLD AND MURDER BILLIONS OF PEOPLE
END OF STORY.
STOP ASKING QUESTIONS YOU RACIST.
Logan Robinson
Seriously shut the fuck up
You're preaching to the choir here mate
Jonathan Price
Out of interest what would you class as 'cuck themes'?
Carter Mitchell
>Hitler is an insufferable autist with no redeeming features whatsoever name 1 redeeming feature?I don't hate nazis but hitler comes of as a faggot even in mein kampf and germanny has failed so many times that one has to wonder about their place in he racial hierarchy
Caleb Watson
Look Who's Back had him shooting a dog it had to be done, who knows what secrets the dog could have told the allies
Ryder Clark
He is a big guy
Noah Brooks
hittler was a faggot, inner circle had some madmen but they got shit done.I always disliked hitlers assertion that the dreamer of the world concept is as or more important than people who make it into reality.any fag can picture a rock being lifted but only a true hero of the people can conceive a pulley system or counterweights
Hudson Lee
What if it was an HBO show and had many POVs with hitler being only one of the many.
Justin Walker
He could be charming on an interpersonal level if he wanted to be. Most of his secretaries remembered him as a kindly old man even I spite of the atrocities he was ordering in the east.
Also, a man capable of going from sleeping on a park bench to master of almost all of Europe - even if for a short time - is a political mastermind, no fucking questions asked.
In the series, they could have at least gotten his speeches spot on, but they fucked that up as well, either because of Carlyle, the producers, or more like my a mixture of both.
Also, keep in mind that Germany has always been surrounded by enemies (which certainly played into Hitler's joo paranoia) and that they were fighting against virtually the entire fucking world. They did pretty well considering.
Adam Edwards
That was footage for The Greatest Story Never Told and for high school use only.
Andrew Lopez
That no country values fee speech to the same level as the USA, in euroland they give jail for facebook posts
James Rodriguez
Hitler was an insufferable retard when it came to pretty much every intellectual consideration whatsoever
He should have stuck at what he was good at
Owen Rodriguez
actually all you need is a hollywood budget and some skill.If the remnant can not gather that much money from the whole world than the whole thing is dead anyway.make it and dump it on the internet, start a controversy and everyone will see it
Jordan Cox
A dutiful master does the needed thing. I've had many dogs and ended the suffering of some. Many farmers and hunters who love their pets do the same.
If you were miserable would you want a merciful death or prolonged agony with slow death?
Joshua Ramirez
At some point he has dinner, the scene feels out of the grand scheme of things, like an opportunity to have a scene that is not historically driven. And at this dinner, Hitler goes autistic talking to women about purging subhumans. Literally one opportunity to have Hitler say something not obvious and he spergs out.
Brandon Gonzalez
>literally the US Japan and Russia all committed way worse crimes
Aiden Sullivan
>He orchestrated WW2, one of the biggest wars in the world ending with nuclear weapons first and only times used.
He didn't orchestrate the Japanese offensives in Asia and the Pacific, That process was in motion for decades before Pearl Harbor and was almost completely a separate war.
Bentley Hughes
Kek he actually did do this irl if I remember correctly
I'm sure he was a little more classy about it though
Cooper Jackson
>Most of his secretaries remembered him as a kindly old man even I spite of the atrocities he was ordering in the east. meh. > Also, a man capable of going from sleeping on a park bench to master of almost all of Europe - even if for a short time - is a political mastermind, no fucking questions asked is he, or is he just the right man at the right time?stalin also had a crap life and while politics did their part the social climate being ripe played a big part. >they were fighting against virtually the entire fucking world. and that was because hitler acted like an autistic kid when it came to diplomacy.He also deluded himself into thinking people the British would side with him despite also having said that in its current state Germany had nothing to offer as an ally.not picking allies based on his fanboy lies could have helped, not being so blatant about his ambitions could have also helped. >Hitler's joo paranoia I suspect Hitlers main goal with the jews was to get their stuff.
Parker Myers
>He orchestrated WW2, one of the biggest wars in the world ending with nuclear weapons first and only times used. This is what happens when the eternal Anglos and the Jews ally in a super-propaganda movement. Churchill himself admitted he did everything he could to antagonize the Germans without even caring about Hitler's program. The allies repeatedly told German embassadors suing for peace as early as mid 1940 to fuck off, purely out of principle of total war. And it was the US that used nukes (and rightly so, did nothing wrong). The (western) allies were less bad than Hitler but saying that Germans "caused" the war is on the same level as Germany's posters about "the Jew : he starts war, he fuels war".
Was replying to
Luis Howard
>He should have stuck at what he was good at Which is?His paintings are ok but nothing above average.When reading mein kampf I was expecting to be swayed to his side by cleaver half truths and omissions but instead I found a petulant child insisting that he could have accomplished anything if he had only applied himself, he just did not feel like it.most omissions related to him having to cook sausages in the same pot that served as a chamber pot during his days hostel for the poor
James Jenkins
You know that HATE CRIME laws would have any leak on the net shut down. It's how they're fighting ISIS using twitter and shit like that. NEo-Nazi are not considered the friendly Domestic Terrorists.
Hudson Collins
Ah ok I thought you were talking about the Rise of Evil
The Downfall scene isn't as bad as that one desu, it's only a few sentences if I remember, but yeah it felt hilariously out of place thematically
I just chalk it up to him having a complete mental breakdown
Joseph Cooper
another misconception I had about hitler was that he started out as an ok chap but cracked under stress, turns out he was always an ass.
Alexander Ross
They were not the ones charged with the war crimes, and we're not talking about Yamato and Stalin, but Hitler. Hate speech is about intent, and since it can be argued by a sect of a religion that free speech defends that favorable movie about hitler is hate speech that's it.
How else you think america got evolution shutdown in schools. The bigger issue is about taking away the equality of religion in free speech. Either way, fuck Hitler. He was a terrible military leader. He did the same mistake as napoleon and had no order within his ranks.
It's hard to be favorable about a opportunistic autistic idiot, that was a vegetarian hate mongerer. At least churchill was badass enough to survive imprisonment and didn't rule by inciting hate. He had the dignity to be a gentleman. Even roosevelt is the reason why Germany and Japan are doing great now.
But this is above a lot of peoples heads, and most people will think I am SJW cuck that is just spouting stuff I saw on some YouTube video and not researched years ago on my own volition.
I don't care either way, I am an olderfag then anyone else here. I'll go back to DIGG now.
Landon King
Yeah, I mean how do you go from failed artist to genocidal leader. He was known for passionate speeches. Not intellectual movements. It was emotional, not knowledgeable. He was an artist, in a crude form, but nothing like a leader should be. Just look at the shambles he let his military be in.
Easton Morales
To put it bluntly, dominating others.
Certainly not a talent that non-sociopaths would be proud of, but clearly that didn't stop him
And yeah his paintings are completely unremarkable
Jeremiah Taylor
>He did the same mistake as napoleon
Only because of Italian stupidity pushing the start of the campaign forward
>and had no order within his ranks.
What
Chase Jackson
Lmao he was a bully in elementary school as well.
He was never an 'ok chap', not even nazi apologists believe this.
Yeah, he had the worest military hierarchy in major military history.
Carter King
noice and the android from alien as the propagandist... seems cool. thanks. i still hate nazis, but it's still a very interesting movement. if a good movie on hitler hasn't been done yet do not expect one to come up ANY time in the future, you're better off finding a good movie on sesame street.
Angel King
>Hitler's program. The allies repeatedly told German embassadors suing for peace as early as mid 1940 to fuck off, purely out of principle of total war.
I'm sure he was totally going to back out of Poland, France, Norway, Belgium, Luxemburg, Czech Republic, it's those damned Allies that made him fight to the end!
>The (western) allies were less bad than Hitler but saying that Germans "caused" the war is on the same level as Germany's posters about "the Jew : he starts war, he fuels war".
Are you fucking retarded? Germany worked together with the USSR to divide the Europe in half since the late 30's. German economy was focused on war even before that. They fired the first fucking shot with a ready plan to attack the Western Europe. Besides, how can you say he was being antagonised when he made a claim on three foreign coutries and broke every treaty he signed when it suited him?
Gabriel Scott
Hitler was a Leftist socialist user. So was Mussolini. They were both riding the wave of the lower class worker and farmer peoples revolutions that were sweeping through Europe at the time.
Zachary Butler
>Hate speech is about intent intent is a point of view. who is Yamato, do you mean all of japan? >The bigger issue is about taking away the equality of religion in free speech. don't they teach the controversy? fun fact:Roosevelt died never knowing if the war would be won.
Logan Cox
There's no way to explain the historical actions of Hitler, there's more propaganda FOR him then against him in America. This why hate crime law exists, and is so hard to describe. Hitler's purity of race is what makes him more evil then Russia and Japan. It's a crime against humanity, like that means anything to the ignorant.
Ian Ramirez
Go on?
Adrian Torres
damn they really did a number on you at your "university" didnt they
Ryan Fisher
>Hitler was a Leftist socialist
Kill yourself
Zachary Robinson
His dog would have been killed nonethless after Russians raided their base, or taken to the test-labs anyway.
Hitler loved animals, he made Blondie swallow that pill because it was a less painful way to die than what would have awaited her.
Mason Hill
he was full of hate even in his artist days.only thing he was right about was dangers of Marxism. >emotional emotions can give you a boost but no amount of "will" will counter being out gunned.The fact that he did not know much about anything also lead to cronyism with him making his teacher into a minister of finance ,etc.making up 500 fake members may look good on paper but it won't help you during the real fight. What I wonder about is who actually made the NSDAP, who was that unknown guy hitler jacked it from.
Jaxon Jenkins
because the Aryan Race or whatever, is well known ideal. Intent can only be proven with evidence, and isn't just implied. each accusation of Hate Crimes is treated on case-by-case basis, and there is no such thing as precedent.
Hirohito, I meant sorry. I forget where I got Yamato from.
Roosevelt's death can be seen as the biggest tragedy to happen to USA, and maybe even teh keystone to it's terrible state of affairs to this day. The prosperity of Germany and Japan was his intent for USA as well, but got corrupted and shut down by corporate greed.
It's sad, but a stronger working class is proof of a stronger society. Maybe it only works on smaller scale like Germany or Japan.
Dylan Morgan
He was user, you just have a poorly conceived understanding of political ideology, especially mid 20th century political ideology. He brought about a people's revolution in Germany centered around socialist reform. Mussolini was also a fervent and outspoken socialist his entire life.
Wyatt Mitchell
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Austin Reed
>dominating others. That makes him too much like SJW
Levi White
I went to music school for a year, that was taught by member sin teh industry, and no actual professors.
I enjoy military history, and entertainment law. Both of which applies to movies about hitler and the controversy that surrounds it.
In Canada. So cuck me with your best shot. I don't really care, I just don't like bullies. Churchill was better leader.
Want proof?
Who won?
Caleb Ward
he outlines how he took over the school, look at that smug face. stalin had the same thing in that he could not tolerate anyone other than himself being in charge even in a school clique
Jacob Gomez
He learned secret Aryan Vril channeling techniques and was able to weave a collectivist zeitgeist into the minds of the German people
William Peterson
Some people even say hitler was killed off and a double of him took place for the later part of the war. when is was seen as inevitable. this is why they never wanted anyone to recover his corpse.
Xavier Nguyen
I remember in History we had an entire unit dedicated to Hitler and his life. This is the movie that we watched in class.
I mean I can't complain really, it killed about three lessons worth of time.
Oliver Harris
>suing for peace that worked out so well the first time.
Austin Lewis
He's not really Hitler. He's Dr. Nicholas Rush in an alternate timeline.
Cooper Torres
How about we put the fucking linguistics/political ideologies aside and focus on the millions of people that died as a result of his actions? The decline of Europe as a superpower? Is that proof enough of his villainy?
I'm all in favour of discarding the stupid "Hitler was a madman!" if only because it diminishes his evil - there is more to learn if we rationally analyse the situation in Europe of that time but you have to try and actually debunk the points I make.
Mason Reyes
Sociopaths are just like anyone else. They can be Ted Bundy or Head of Surgery. zoey of GamersGate or Bill Gates.
Lucas Hughes
Hitler was the definitive SJW. >calling out the flaws in society >blaming them on a convenient scapegoat >fighting to destroy that scapegoat >waging war to spread his ideology worldwide The only difference is that people actually listened to him.
Logan Edwards
You blame Hitler for literally everything that happened as a result of WW2?
Nolan Richardson
>Hitler's purity of race is what makes him more evil then Russia and Japan eugenics was big before hitler jumped on it. also while it was never officially announced I don't think USSR was fighting for the niggers of the world. >crime against humanity how many allies got punished for theirs crimes? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II
armenian genocide and many other such events prove that if you win in the end than you can more or less get out of it unharmed
Carson Campbell
I've never actually read it desu but I wouldn't be surprised if he was exaggerating or outright bullshiting about a lot of that stuff.
He doesn't seem so alpha here, for example.
Sebastian Peterson
would a socialist be so pro military?
Oliver Nguyen
"Hitler did nothing wrong" was just a shock value meme that some people think is true. That's the level of idiocy. Some people find it funny, the shock value like Cleese in Faulty Towers. Some people ACTUALLY see him as a genuine genius!
The proof is, he was disorganized. He wanted to twist science to his favour. The USA took his scientists and went to the moon.
He was a shrewd businessman and politician, he was the center of the start of propaganda as we know it. Anything else is up to debate, asides from him thinking genetics dictated better people. How that had to do with Judaism the religion, is even farther fetched.
Chase James
its more likely that he did not want it to be desecrated.no one wants to end up like gaddafi. more like poverty and stagnation made people go "fuck it"
Levi Cook
Funny thing is, Hitler wasn't really a 'sociopath' as we understand them in modern times.
By all accounts he had a genuine and bizarrely overpowering love for his mother, which a true sociopath simply would not be capable of.
Goering actually fits the diagnosis of ASPD far better than Hitler. Adi was just a narcissist.
Austin Adams
He made a battlefield out of Europe. He contributed to its economical decline, fucked up the demographics for almost two decades. He let communists take over Eastern Europe, something that YOU should've found detestable as all the concessions made in favour of pre-WWII Germany were made with the goal of turning it into a bulwark against communism.
I'm getting tired of you ignoring everything I write in favour of focusing on small details that you hope to twist against me. Are you going to address the other points I made?
Christopher Foster
>not muh hitler
Xavier Garcia
>tfw despise every aspect of National Socialism >almost as much as this propaganda flick and what it implies
Josiah Scott
Might not be fighting for the niggers of the world, but that still doesn't imply he was fighting AGAINST THEM, like the Nazi party.
Hitler was going to destroy almost all the art in europe if he lost. That's a bigger crime then gassing jews, IMHO.
as an admirer of arts.
but yeah, when it comes to war you can justify the means by the end. If you lose then you'll pay. But frankly, Hitler picked a fight with the world and lost. He didn't do it by making as many allies as you'd think, as much as annexed and forced labour, which is some how defendable?
It's not like UK constricted Canada into the war,and forced USA into manufacturing bombs, and took over france to fight or else.