>The proposal's backers, known as Yes California, have argued that the state is culturally out of step with the rest of the U.S. and that California pays more money to the federal government than it receives in spending. The election of President Trump has only strengthened their argument, they say .
>"California loses [by] being a part of America culturally and financially," said Marcus Ruiz Evans, one of the group's founders. "It could be a nation all its own, everybody knows that. The only question is if they want to break off."
Listening to all the other americans constantly complain about california on Sup Forums I can't see why anyoen would disagree with this. Why forcefully keep a state in the union if everyone else hates it? After all brits left the EU, why shouldn't californians leave the United States?
First they'd have to change the flag though. Looks pretty shit tbqh.
Joseph Morales
Fuck Trump and the other states. We should ditch this stupid Union and take Oregon and Washington with us.
Justin Jackson
California is polarized too.
It's an urban vs. rural, coastal vs. fly-over states divide.
Aiden Roberts
It will never happen because geopolitics, just like every other secessionist movement, sadly
Justin Clark
Fuck you stay out of Washington you southern piece of shit
Josiah Powell
Oh shit I forgot Washington could be Cascadia. Together, but seperately, we will leave this hellhole.
Asher Davis
I'd vote for this shit and then immediately leave the state desu.
Christopher Barnes
IIRC, Secession requires the approval of Congress and 2/3rds of states, neither of which will happen.
Nolan Mitchell
>gaylifornia >mehifornia >femifornia
Ryder Butler
>Hungarian flag
Logan Garcia
>Yes California says that even if the proposed initiative does land on the ballot and voters approve it, such an unprecedented move to secede would need to receive approval of at least a majority of the states in the union, among other legal hurdles .
>Evans says he's not fazed.
>"America already hates California, and America votes on emotions," he said. "I think we'd have the votes today if we held it."
wew lad
Luke Rodriguez
It's not going to happen. Congress won't let our biggest state go over petty shit like an election. Texas wanted to do the same thing in 2008.
Samuel Peterson
No Fuck you Fuck California I hope you drown this year
Brandon Campbell
If California leaves then they must take their shitty tourists with them. t.Minnesota
Jackson Wood
This
Ian King
>Shitty Yeah fuck you guys too. Wtf have you even contributed to our country anyway?
Grayson Clark
who would go to Minnesota lmao
Luis Thompson
1st Minnesota Infantry Prince And a shitton of other stuff.
Sebastian Flores
Spread this to your fellow countrymen and hopefully they'll stop coming.
Christopher Miller
>calispiccia
Spic majority states need to fuck off.
Shoo-shoo filthy fucks.
Jackson Cox
They produce a lot of food and iron ore for one.
All of the states in the u.s. are beautiful and should be visited and appreciated you filthy, self absorbed concrete jungle primate
Tyler Foster
>All of the states in the u.s. are beautiful No all are not beautiful.
All states are not equal
Fuck off flyover inbred
Thomas Perry
I am washington, western washington.
Parker Barnes
Only if you keep your shit road design and all the coloreds of Seattle out of Glorious Oregon.
Noah Brown
Nigga Oregon hates you too. Californians are the reason it's so expensive to buy a house in Portland.
Jacob Morris
No promises, we'll share our pain with you eventually
Daniel Hill
...
Liam Nelson
Washington is rightful California clay because California is the ruler of the Pacific West Oregon and Washington are nothing but Californian back country
Ryan Cook
Take the fat Walmart touring Midwesternes first or better yet take back all your niggers
Daniel Hall
Typical imperialistic californian, wanting to ruin the northwest with its deplorable culture and rule the west with an iron fist. Your double standard mentality knows no bounds.
Anthony Bailey
Are the united states not so united anymore?
Owen Bailey
It's always been like this tbqhwy
Jaxson Ortiz
Get the fuck off and stop bullying Washington and Oregon They are Minnesotas best friend.
Charles Morris
>you will live to see the 2nd american civil war
Andrew Smith
It's literally never gonna happen. No state will ever secede again.
Ayden Lewis
Literally nu-male: the state
Aiden Wright
>have argued that the state is culturally out of step with the rest of the U.S. In Spanish I hope.
Nathan Gray
it will
Jayden White
t. Schoolshooter & cousin fucker
Josiah Watson
Take all your shitty midwestern implants that moved here and fucked this state up as well
Jack Johnson
Washington probably contributes more to our culture then your shitty overrated state.If you can't handle the weather then stop coming here. t.Minnesota
Jaxson Watson
Fuck Seattle
Carter Jenkins
God I hope so It won't happen but gosh I wish that state would just fuck off
Connor Peterson
as if literally ANYONE would leave CA to go be a tourist in MINNESOTA
Jackson Anderson
Holy fuck just wait until every Pedro and Gonzales feeds on MickyDs. We aren't as fat as the other midwestern states you retarded Chicano.
Cameron Hernandez
Pls go to Arizona. Oregon and Washington is full.
Ethan Ross
hmmmm do they know what happened to the last states that wanted to secede?
Hunter Clark
The fuckers constantly ovverun our housing prices and then whine about how it's so cold. If we are such a flyover state then stay the fuck out.
Josiah Gutierrez
it is true that based Oregon has the best roads and also rest stops in the US.
Carson Sanders
He's never left his home state
Minnesota is actually pretty nice
So us Montana, Idaho, North Dakota, Florida, Alaska and Ohio
Joseph Thompson
nice, can't wait for Texas to go next, this entire country will fall apart like a cardboard house.
Adam Martinez
oh my god please lie down in front of an oncoming train
Isaiah Garcia
I doubt many live on those red areas.
Wyatt Campbell
This is so fucking cringy. Also,Oregon and Washington would much rather join Minnesota and the Dakotas.
Matthew Campbell
so...people leaving CA for MN is real??? Where are they moving to in MN? Are they retiring or
Nicholas Davis
Get raped by a Somali
Ian Hill
Idaho is shit, though
Dylan Rodriguez
Spics commit violent crime at rates significantly higher than the national average.
I'm from New Hampshire. Calispiccia is one of the DUMBEST states in the union.
Ryder Price
Oh wow, those are exactly the same arguments the south of Brazil has to advocate separation. I do feel it's mostly autism but it's true that rest of the country has greatly damaged the south. The rest of the country despise separatists, however. How does the rest of the US react to that?
Dominic Rodriguez
Forgot about Hawaii, theyre pretty great too. If the country ever does go down I'd move to either Alaska or Hawaii
It's really not though
Leo Scott
How does 20K Somalis compare to Millions of Pedro's and Zhinglags? At least we control our immigration.
Carter Nelson
>Oh wow, those are exactly the same arguments the south of Brazil has to advocate separation. No one outside some autists on the internet even support that, even less know it's even a thing outside the south itself.
Bentley Thomas
california is not just a place, it is a cancerous mindset. if california became its own country half of cucknifornians would just move to the nearest location in the US
Ethan Harris
>At least we control our immigration.
lol, that country doesn't belong to you unless your name is Jack three feathers.
Ayden Moore
I support the independent california republic
Jacob Richardson
The natives weren't even using the land properly anyway.
William Edwards
sold for beads
Cameron Richardson
have you ever been anywhere in idaho for example anywhere from nampa to boise to mtn home to twin falls? cuz its all flat and ugg. what idaho u talking about m9?
David Wood
my name is jack three foot penis tbqhw you
Xavier Miller
This hero of the republic slaps your water supply's ass, how do you respond?
Jack Perez
California should go with Mexico instead
Grayson Reyes
This, a union with washington, oregon, montana, minnesota, the dakotas, idaho and alaska can work wonders together
Evan Reed
So you've never actually been to idaho?
Jonathan Ward
...
Bentley Davis
>all these poor flyovers hating on our based state when we literally give no shits about them
Hunter Campbell
I give a shit, they're beautiful places. Especially when you camp there
t. Washington
Jeremiah Harris
We could do our own shot and manage our immigration while moving forward economically. Fuck Wisconsin.
Jaxson Gray
One day user, one day
Ryan Gray
please don't leave us behind
-T. Washingtonian
Isaac Bell
>California leaves >Texas follows >then the South >NYC becomes a city state and takes most of its metro area >Oregon, Washington and British Columbia become Cascadia >Massachusetts and the others become New England >only the Midwest is all that remains of the USA A man can dream