How would Russians react if they suddenly had a free press and their state run media shut down...

How would Russians react if they suddenly had a free press and their state run media shut down? Would they be horrified upon learning the true state of their country? Or would they be so brainwashed as it is that they dismiss any anti government opinions as hostile foreign propaganda?

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We allow anyone to start their own media company and publish whatever they want. You can say whatever you want in the US. We even allow media owned by foreign governments like All Jazeera and RT to operate freely here. The Chinese government owns a billboard in Times Square they use to broadcast pro Chinese information.

>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""free""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" press
>all major news outlets are owned by like 5 different companies
americans.

But this is because consumers choose to make those 5 companies the biggest, it has nothing to do with the government.

>Implying tomonews isn't a major news outlet
baka

What video are these images form?

BBC is really horrible. they only do cherry picking every time.

youtu.be/AkW4eW7TMvM

We have had the independent media in the 90s. Most of them are controlled by oligarchs. But apart from the propaganda interests of specific other news oligarchs were independent.
Now 99% is a media, Goebbels propaganda. Brainwashing in Orwellian style.

It's not so different from having a handful of billionaire jews tell you what to think, my fat friend

>t. liberal

It's crazy how wanting a free press and competition offering multiple viewpoints is considered liberal in Russia...

Consumers by and large choose what the media tells them to choose. Do you see the problem here?

>Video is unavailable in Australia.
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Any person who does not want to consume only the Kremlin's propaganda called liberal (grade insult here).

> How would Russians react if they suddenly had a free press and their state run media shut down?

I would start my own internet media calling for decommunisation, universal basic income, welfare, kicking out oligarchs, massive deportations of central asian and caucasian shitskins, debunking of jewish "intelligentsia" working as a fifth column against our people.

Unfortunately western people are ok with only left liberal foreign media.

Tbh, I think most people choose what to consume based on how they are raised. White kids raised by conservative parents are a lot more likely to watch the conservative media. Black kids raised by liberal parents are way more likely to watch the liberal media.

And the internet has democratized the internet a lot so to speak.

Liberals are people who hate Russia and want to destroy it.

I hate my drunk screaming neighbours yes.

Liberals in Russia called the right and far right, who oppose the remnants of communist rats who are now in power. Almost all high-ranking officials were members of the Communist Party in the past.

And look where your attitude has gotten you. Your country's AIDs problem is spiraling out of control because instead of trying to help these people, they are stigmatized as homosexuals and junkies. Your economy is in the shitter because your government's counter sanctions against the west. People should blame Putin and his cronies for that, but they blame the west for putting sanctions only on Putin and his cronies, not the average Russian, since that is what your government controlled media tells you to believe.

It's not MY government, it's pro-british puppets who exploit us since 1917. And Putin is his agent.

Best you can do is nuke London and turn us into american colony.

russia is a crypto colony of Great Britain

>pro-British puppet
>meanwhile Theresa May is trying to get Trump to be more anti Putin

tell us more, i was not aware of this.

Orthodox Sharia begins in Russia. It is proposed to deal with the HIV denial of sex and prayer. However, extramarital sex and bisexual orgies have become the norm. This is the only sphere of life, which is not totally controlled by the state.

> junkies

You better don't talk about "junkies" and drugs. I wonder why your journalists write such articles?

Wait, maybe America get benefits from afghanistan's heroin? Oh no its IMPOSSIBLE


Crypto colony means the control is hidden, sometimes colony can pose as a sovereign country and even a threat but anyway when time will come it will defend british interests.


pro-British and pro-german communist thugs installed communist regime in Russia. Later country was controlled by brits only.

Cold war is a british-american rivalry.

Most russian oligarchs and top officials live in london.

How would Americans react if they suddenly had a free press and their Jew-run media shut down? Would they be horrified upon learning the true state of their country? Or would they be so brainwashed as it is that they dismiss any anti government opinions as hostile foreign propaganda?

> American talking about something he's only heard about on CNN
> He's talking about how bad and unfree media in another country is
can't make this shit up

>Americans insulting another country's media

lmao

Only RT real truth RRRYAYAYAYA

And guess what? Media companies like RT are allowed to freely operate in the US and call CNN out.

What would happen if PBS tried to run a documentary about homophobia in Russia on Russian TV?

I'm trying to figure out why I should, as an American, hate Putin and Russia, but information seems to be scarce.

Can one of my Russian friends here please enlighten me? I'm legitimately ignorant to the entire situation.

1) we hacked the election

2) we support homophobic neonazi Drumpf

3) we brainwash american people with propaganda weapon RT

4) we invaded sovereign country Ukraine

5) we threaten Eastern European states

6) we killed 100+ millions people with communism and enslaved half of the world

7) we bomb syrian children and last hospitals

8) we pressure sexual and ethnic minorities in Russia

nothing, it'll just get bad ratings and go bust
point is, your posts reveals you don't know shit tyrone
here's Brit, American, German and EU (all govt-supported) media that freely operate in Russia
svoboda.org (that's radio liberty)
bbc.com/russian
dw.com/ru/тeмы-дня/s-9119
ru.euronews.com/tag/russia

there are major outlets that are critical of the government including radio, tv, printed and internet and finally here i am any english language is availeable to me an KGB isn't braking down my door every time i read WaPo or watch some CNN fuckup just for the laughs

it sometimes looks like living in Russia means getting a way wider spectrum of opinions by default than in the US, on many topics

>6) we killed 100+ millions people with communism and enslaved half of the world
>tfw most people actually believe this even though it was literally jews' fault.

> What would happen if PBS tried to run a documentary about homophobia in Russia
If they understand the difference between "a documentary about homophobia" and "homosexuality promotion", then nothing I guess.

It would portray homosexuality as harmless and homophobia as bad.

9) We starved millions ukraianins to death to eat their wheat.

then at most, it'd get a 16+ rating and couldn't be aired on kiddie networks

Too early to talk about homophobia, at first we have to fucking SURVIVE and not dissolve between EU and chinks in the last 50 years

>murican flag

top kek

They live in London because they hate sharing a country with retards like you
T.have met the old Russian ambassador

But you're supposed to be worried about homos not all those other issues, really important stuff ... those homos.
That and women fighting for rights they've already had for decades.

Was the Russian election voter fraud covered by any of these?

6 and 7 are true though
5 is kinda true with Baltic states and Poland

Bullshit. You guys have laws against "homosexual propaganda". I can't read Russian, so I can't read most of those links, but using Google translate on the BBC Russian, I didn't see anything anti government on the first page. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I just didn't see it.

You have things happen in Russia that would never happen in the west, like having the owner of a media company arrested, then selling his company to the government upon release.

Dude, I literally have a yesterdays paper that has articles about political prisoners, budget misuses and corruption incidents. We have relatively free media.

Seriously, though, any legitimate reasons?

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They oppose NATO, that should be enough. NATO is simply there as a mutual self defense treaty, it isn't a threat to Russia if their former satellite states join NATO unless Russia would do something to incur the wrath of NATO. They supported separatists in Ukraine, who could have been a key economic ally for the US. They assist anti American regimes like in Venezuela.

yeah, they covered it however they could
somehow managed to twist that Russia having all ballot places filmed at all times into a bad thing if i remember right
all very free an liberal

open svoboda and google translate it - "will putin rule forever", "russian political prisoners", "porn, putin, prosecutor", "brothers run away from torture in russia", "story of an estonian familiy separated by russias censure and ideology"

pretty funny read and i heard US is spending more on that shit than Putin does on RT

I always enjoy how you say "it's not us, it's ______"

"it wasn't us, it was soviets"
"it wasn't us, it was tsar"
"it's not us, it's putin"
"it's not us, it's britain"

well BBC is great but they aren't the top dog at paid anti-russian BS and they're really trying to pretend to be unbiased

google translate svodoba.org, it's your tax money at work after all

yes, they're going to steal your burgers

>svoboda.org

>BBC is great

>laws against "homosexual propaganda"
That's one of the few Putin's laws that I actually agree with. It is NOT prohibited to be gay here. Nobody asks for a reference confirming a person's sexuality when hiring or rendering medical services. Gays have the same opportunities as straights people. Nobody cares about what people do in their bedrooms.

>I do not thrust the Jews in the oven, they climbed back!

Have you seen how fast they climb?

You realize that in the future once Russia is more developed and liberal, people are going to look back on those laws and the gay pride shit is going to be 100 times worse than in the west.

> You guys have laws against "homosexual propaganda"
they're about children, not propaganda per se. they don't forbid movies like Dalls Buyers Club or whatever, and we don't hang gay people. so yeah, a pro-gay show can air on TV. Conservatives will be fuming at their mouths, Channel one might have a talk show about how that's gay propaganda, but it could air and it won't be illegal as long as it has a rating.
> You have things happen in Russia that would never happen in the west
that's diversity. please deal. honestly, we have problems in Russia, like we're ctually fighing a local Iraq in Chechnya for 20 years Those problems take time to manage, and we're not a perfect trump-electing democracy like the US. but we clearly do get disproportionate flak for it in "free western media"

The more twisted the valve, the balloon will explode soon.

You are a true patriot lad.

I did not know that

You get more flak for it because you're the biggest threat to us. If your government didn't support anti western governments militarily and economically, we'd treat you like any other African country.

I'm sure relations will normalize now that they own your new president

yeah, like i dont know true state of country and there is no free press

dont think u're that different, burgerman

>You have things happen in Russia that would never happen in the west

bull
shit

thanks but pretty sure it was the other way around

we couldn't afford to support our own country economicall while you and your saudi friends were funneling money into chechnya and bombing countries that practically border russia.

your leaders chose to have russia as your threat once terrorism didn't work out to be a convenient scapegoat, so now putin is using that obvious hostility to hold a tighter grip on russia

thanks for that

People in such countries as Russia don't trust anything they hear on TV and read between the lines.
The real mindfuck would be for americans to learn how their media really works (a glimps of that was seen at recent elections).

>russians and jews
>dubious news

You have way more journalists that mysteriously die than in the west.

actually this we've had so much Pravda for several generations that we're very critical of our media. not hostile to its message but taking it with a grain of salt.

perhaps western media was never so blatant or even been so exposed before that's why i never see such attitudes in the west. when people in the west are imstrusful of some media, they always bring up some other sourse that "isn't MSM" and thus is the unvarnished truth. people
in russia treat all media like they have an agenda, by default

Basically it is the journalists who dig the shit out of the life of Putin and his friends.

That kinda happens with Russian diplomats abroad too.

But the approval rating on Putin is so high in Russia. I highly doubt people are critical of the pro government media in Russia if that's the case.

no i really don't think so
some deaths or politicians, activists and journalists just go unreported. like that nato official in brussels or whatever in the end of 2016, or people testifying for serbia in that international court, or these people.

if people with positions like on picrelated died in the same way in russia they'd get WAY more western coverage with "Russia political anaysts" building a clear case of Putin removing witnesses. when they're Western officials, it just gets swept under the rug

it's just putin
yeah it's a bad russian trait but we love the tzar and hate boyars

putin is associated with muge ecomonic growth and sound domestic desision, and with rebuilding the military back into shape so russia can defend itself again.

doesn't mean people trust the news completely. mistrusting media is like a pavlovian reaction, people bought into too many lies that were revealed for lies in the 80es and in the 90es when all media turned "free" they bought into even more shady pyramid schemes and lost their lives' savings too. now you could't force russians to trust the devil box whatever you do

>be horrified upon learning the true state of their country
pffff....
Silly american, to understand that everything is bad in russia, you don't need free press. It's good, of course, when people tells about problems in your country, bu tif they tells same thing for 1000 time, and don't suggests any solutions, so press don't make any sence

>2017
>still believes muh approval rating meme, especially in Russia
Why do americans so fucking naive?

snopes.com/seth-conrad-rich/
>responding with conspiracy theories that are easily debunked
Keep on sucking your government's cock.

>As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.
>Commissioner Pravin Lal, "U.N. Declaration of Rights"

Alpha Centauri, if you're wondering.
I think it's actually too optimistic. Russians want their shackles, and Americans are now trying them on. Our own media is complete bullshit and propaganda, but it has always been so. The scales have fallen from my eyes.
People don't want the truth. They want the comforting lie. They want to be told they're good, or at least if If they aren't good, nobody is good.

People really are just animals.

>snopes.com/seth-conrad-rich/
> debunked
do i get it right, but did he really get killed, but details are not as the picture i posted says? then it's irrelevant.

i don't care what the text says on my pic, i'm just saying if 4 people high up some russian party system had been killed or died unexpectedly in the same timeframe, they'd get more coverage, and you'll beleve any conspiracy theory about them. simple as that

>but did he really get killed, but details are not as the picture i posted says?
Yes. There's no evidence he was testifying against Clinton. Same with the second story in your pic. snopes.com/un-official-john-ashe-killed-the-day-before-he-was-to-testify-against-hillary-clinton/ You wonder why people are concerned about Russia spreading fake news? It's because of people like you spreading source-less conspiracy theories.

Victor Thorne was a Holocaust denier that killed himself... How is that suspicious? Mentally unstable people kill themselves all the time.

Shawn Lucas also wasn't doing what the picture claims. He was just a process server. Murdering him didn't benefit the Clintons in any way. He overdosed on opioids during an opioid epidemic, not very suspicious.


> i'm just saying if 4 people high up some russian party system had been killed or died unexpectedly in the same timeframe, they'd get more coverage
None of the people in your pic were very high up except for John Ashe, but his death didn't benefit the Clintons in any way. Meanwhile, over 150 journalists have been murdered in Russia since the 90s, and quite a few of them benefited Putin. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia

>There's no evidence he was testifying against Clinton

rolf. tell that his relatives

well journalists killed in the 90es are not on Putin, they're on Western-supported olygarkhs' hands

we had mafia shootouts and people reporting on it, we had chechen army and people reporting on it, we still fighting a war and have people with 13th century tribal mentality and people reporting on it.

in fact, all high-profile cases are about people that antagonized chechens aomwhere in their career, ususally very shortly before their deaths. and no, none of the deaths benefited putin. in fact, he keeps hostile media open for business and running, if you read this thread.

journalists in russia write tons of stuff that's critical of Putin, and the deaths only become less and less frequent farther into his rule. by your very link it's apparent Putin's managing the problem he received when he got into office, not making it worse

Their family publicly asked people to stop politicizing the murder. It's also been several months and nobody has claimed the $20,000 reward for information about his murder put out by wikileaks.

What's the point of posting that picture? Are you implying anyone that is anti Russian is some sort of feminist?

> Are you implying anyone that is anti Russian is some sort of feminist?
many of them are
recently all hillary supporters turned into CIA lovers so they hate russia too and love covert assasinations of minority rights leaders

it seems america never runs out of people that hate russia for on thing or other

>none of the deaths benefited putin. in fact, he keeps hostile media open for business and running, if you read this thread.
How can someone be this brainwashed? Russia is 148th out of 179 in terms of press freedom. You somehow manage to turn anything incriminating on Putin into pro Putin propaganda. I have a hard time believing the Russian government cares about shilling on anime imageboards, but if they did, you'd definitely be wasting an opportunity if you were doing this for free.

Before the election season, it was Republicans who were frothing at the mouth that Obama let Putin get away with invading Ukraine and bombing civilians in Syria.

You're just drinking the government sponsored koolaid that anyone who opposes the Russian government is a CIA loving progressive feminists who want to force homosexuality on Russia.

so did you google-translate something from svoboda.org?

i like how people of your sort can turn anything that isn't critical of things you don't like into "paid shill" but i'm still interested in whether Putin wants any of svoboda authors living in Russia killed and why he hadn't doe so. your honest opinion.

I think this Ivan is right. The anti Russia hysteria in the media is ridiculous and it looks like it's being driven behind the scenes by a host of people with their own agendas.

Most Intel agencies who want more funding and powers, governments who want an easy to comprehend external threat to point to when raising taxes or curbing freedoms, liberal media outlets who use the "muh oppressed gays" and "muh poor victims" to drive eyeballs and increase as revenue, and conservative media outlets who use "muh Slav hordes" and "cold war 2: electric boogaloo" for the same purpose.

>so did you google-translate something from svoboda.org?
Yeah, I couldn't understand much.

Now let me ask you, our former Vice President claimed that the Russian media didn't cover bodybags of Russian fighters in Ukraine being returned to Russia. Is that true? Can you show me a mainstream media outlet in Russia that reported on dead Russians soldiers being returned to Russia?

yeah i was jut surprized how neocons somehow were replaced by liberal bomb'em-alls in the US

no i don't think you're a cia lover but i think there's a high chance that you didn't believe cia unsubstantiated claims about iraq in 2003 but believe them now about russi.

that you believe people like brennan that are known to have falsely testified to a senate commitie, when they testify to a senate commitie about something that rings true with your political views

if i'm wrong, i'm wrong, but there's been to many of you people lately that don't read crowdstrike report or official "putin did it" papers yet believe hillary was hacked by ivans like it was gospel

>Now let me ask you, our former Vice President claimed that the Russian media didn't cover bodybags of Russian fighters in Ukraine being returned to Russia. Is that true? Can you show me a mainstream media outlet in Russia that reported on dead Russians soldiers being returned to Russia?
Novaya Gazeta, Echo of Moscow reported on that and yeah svoboda too. Many smaller outlets and liberal loggers and NGO websites i'd say

>that Obama let Putin get away with invading Ukraine
>Putin get away with invading Ukraine

ok lets get it right here.

Putin has not invaded Ukraine. stop talking shit.
and if go into real facts russians have all right to invade Ukraine because they have agreements with Ukrainians for such situation like coups. banderas in kiev are even astonished themselves because after all shit they pulled out against russians they are still untouched.

another point is about bombing civilians in Syria. all fucking world is bombing civilians there. especialy western powers. none gave a flying shit about. everyone was just trolling when CIA-paid ISIS used CIA propaganda equipment to make their movies of executions and other shit. and now you fuck are playing high moral cards here?

oh by the way, here's your former vice president chairing a meeting in the free ukraine that state department officials chose the governement for contrary to that cuntry's standing constitution

his son has a business share in ukrainin oil industry now i think. he's not a very good source on the stuff

And Finland and Caucasian states

We have voice of America, Al Jazeera, Deutche welle, France24 (or smth) too actually.