>you can't wish anyone dead >even if their baseball cap is red >but if you see Richard Spencer >Why don't you punch him in the head >Yeah, won't you give him a big black eye? >Come at him swingin' >ain't nobody gonna cry
>LOL WE SHOULD HURT PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT VIEWS LMAO
Why are libertards are dumb?
Kevin Perez
republican policies hurt minorities.
it's all relative
Brody Williams
>I take Tim Heidecker really seriously
Why are you posting while underage?
Dominic Nelson
favorite is the one where the Richard Spencer punch is mashed up with Born in the USA
Lincoln Taylor
>WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE NAZIS
Benjamin Baker
I think it's fair game consider he extends the same kind of courtesy to sam "nowhere to" hyde.
Ayden Moore
>not punching a self-described Nazi who parades himself as the figurehead of a movement and wishes to erode American rights to fulfill his dreams
Beating up Nazis is as American as apple pie. I'm sure he's tough enough to take a couple more hits to the noggin.
Luke Peterson
what kind of pussy can't even muster up the hate in his nuts to punch a man that publicly advocates for the genocide of an entire race? You're worse than any libtard or polcuck, you're a fucking wimp. No pull in the real world.
what a great advocate for human rights you are. "what? he holds an unpopular opinion? ASSAULT HIM! THIS WILL SURELY GIVE US THE MORAL HIGH GROUND."
Kevin Bell
...
Austin Rodriguez
literally seconds before he was punched he said, i'm not a Nazi and they tend not to like me or my ideas.
Also tim is a dick fuck him.
Logan Miller
name 1 (one) instance non violence stopped nazis
Angel Hill
Violence is never the answer
Talk it out and have peaceful discussion like an adult
Nicholas Fisher
oh no I'd be so upset if a nazi thought I was a hypocrite
damn that sure is a head-scratcher
Lincoln Hill
Facism isn't just an "unpopular opinion." Don't try to normalize it.
Luis Gonzalez
name 1 (one) instance non violence stopped jews from destroying western cultures and values
Thomas Stewart
my grandparents shot nazis and that worked out pretty well
Liam Morales
this guy has become insufferable, too much time in hollywood i guess. I like his shit, but i've stopped following him social media
William Ward
>THIS WILL SURELY GIVE US THE MORAL HIGH GROUND.
you think we want the moral high ground? Is that what you think the goal of rioting is? Of punching public advocates of ethnic cleansing?
NO, you fucking dweeb.
It's to keep mouthbreathers like you out of power and cowering in your safe spaces instead of slithering out of your bedrooms and talking about your Himmler Pepes on camera. This is exactly why you and the absolutely retarded system of thought you cling to will fail over and over and over again.
Noah Davis
>liberalism requires tolerance of everyone, including racialists and fascists
no
Isaiah Ross
Not an argument. Just because I despise Nazis for trying to subvert America doesn't mean I'm a Shillary supporter.
>Richard Bertrand Spencer (born May 11, 1978) is an American white nationalist, known for promoting white supremacist views. He is president of the National Policy Institute, a white nationalist think-tank, and Washington Summit Publishers, an independent publishing firm. Spencer has stated that he rejects the description of white supremacist, and describes himself as an identitarian. He advocates for a white homeland for a "dispossessed white race" and calls for "peaceful ethnic cleansing" to halt the "deconstruction" of European culture.
Oh, but he said he isn't a Nazi, he must not be one! Are you seriously dumb? If he explicitly said he's a Nazi, he would get even more shit thrown his way. That's why he used the term alt-right (not saying he invented it but definitely co-opted it) as a shield to deflect the Nazi criticism. I mean, fuck, you don't even have to know anything about the guy to know he's one, just look at his hair.
Tyler Cruz
>I'm not a nazi guys >Leads group in a nazi salute on camera >Publishes article called "Is Black Genocide RIght?"
can't fool me, pussy
Nicholas Bell
I like to eat oranges and rub my sticky juice covered fingers all over my body after gaving a shower. I end up covered in a potent smell of oranges. It smells better than any kind of expensive cologne you can buy, and it's all natural and healthy. Plus you get to enjoy the delicious flavour of oranges. It's great really. I love the smell of me. Sometimes if I eat enough my farts smell of oranges too.
Carter Ortiz
>Fascism can be stopped with non-violence Wew lad
Justin Harris
basically every time they've tried to organize since WW2. >oh no I'd be so upset if a nazi thought I was a hypocrite that's not the point. at all. the point is we live in a society that values free speech, not mob justice against dissenting voices. >Facism isn't just an "unpopular opinion." Don't try to normalize it. irrelevant. people have the right to espouse whatever bullshit they like without being fucking assaulted in the street. i can agree that facism is a fucking terrible ideology, but we can't just throw out freedom of speech because they hurt our feelings. >my grandparents shot nazis and that worked out pretty well completley different context. quit trying to justify your bloodthirst by saying "muh nazi's"
the place to defeat nazism is the marketplace of ideas. by advocating for this kind of thing you only lend the fascists credence, and swell their ranks.
John Ramirez
I've only came once today so far :/
Henry Gutierrez
actions and words aren't two disconnected things, he spouts harmful shit he gets hit. his ideology should be ridiculed and shut down.
Jaxson Green
name 1 (one) instance where jews actually destroyed western cultures and/or values
Jeremiah Lee
>actions and words aren't two disconnected things meaningless dribble >he spouts harmful shit he gets hit. this is blatantly anti-free speech. you can't just go around committing violence when someone says something objectionable, you fucking barbarian. >his ideology should be ridiculed and shut down. sure, ridicule however much you like. however, when you say an ideaology should be "shut down" you end up sounding far closer to an authoritarian censor than i'd wager you see yourself.
people like you are the reason trump won 2016, and will likely win 2020. you forsake principled debate in favor of petty swipes at the opposition and violence.
Connor Rodriguez
did you seriously bring that fucking marketplace of ideas bullshit into the conversation? YOU are the one literally lending credence to Fascists. In the "modern" society you stroke your tiny mangled cock over, we abide by the Non Aggression Principle. Publicly advocating for ethnic cleansing violates the Non Aggression Principle. Therefore, get rekt in the street like the dog you are, fascist scum.
As for you, see how quickly your "marketplace of ideas" dissolves when your privilege dissappears. I hope you choke on your blood like the rest of the fucking gutless losers like you that welcome fascism as a valid system of thought in any modern society. I guess you have to sit back and accept that too, huh?
Jacob Hernandez
A free market, whether it's a marketplace of things or ideas, only works when the consumers are rational and well-informed. Fascism works by actively preying on the uneducated while sowing distrust for "elitist" scientists, academics, media, etc. that know better.
Fascism abuses the ideals of free speech and tolerance today so that it may crush them tomorrow, and it should be stomped out before it ever gets the chance to.
Bentley Hill
everyone ITT is MAD AS FUCK
William Jones
He is a Nazi whether he says so or not.
To think that Americans are against hurting Nazis is crazy.
Owen Roberts
Tim Heidecker is a fucking scumbag
Adrian Thompson
strong co-sign. liberalism doesn't require self-abnegation or self-immolation.
>Aren’t the Left supposed to be the tolerant ones?
Supposed to be the smart ones, too, but they keep falling for that “I thought you were supposed to be the tolerant ones” horseshit.
>What about dialogue?
Dialogue is for reasonable people acting in good faith. Dialogue is between two acceptable positions. “Taxes need to be raised” vs. “taxes need to be lowered” is grounds for dialogue. “Taxes need to be raised” vs. “Jews should be thrown in ovens” is grounds for a beating.
>But isn’t this sinking to their level?
That depends. After you punch the Nazi, do you espouse the tenets of National Socialism?
>No.
Then you’re better than a Nazi.
>But doesn’t this just give the other side ammunition?
The other side in this argument are lying fucks who can twist any piece of information into a swastika-shaped balloon animal if you engage them in good faith; lacking a piece of information, they’ll just make shit up. Might as well punch a Nazi.
>What about peace, love, and understanding?
Great goals, and once we get rid of the Nazis we can get to work on them. All three are completely impossible when Nazis are about.
Mason Perry
Before the punch he was getting interviewed by some media outlet. Before that we've seen many articles about 'dapper alt-right leaders' which legitimized their ideology and treated it as some new fucking trend. That should never happen in the first place.
I've no problem with a debate with reasonable topics like "should the taxes be lowered". Not "should this race be wiped out". The first mistake is treating that opinion with respect.
Gavin Morales
1) This country does not and has never believed in absolute free speech
2) No change or power comes from principled debate. Ever. You cannot name one movement, government, or nation that succeeded in their goals through principled debate alone.
3) Nobody owes principled debates to someone seriously advocating genocide. People that believe that the side that wants to exterminate an entire race deserves a chance to speak are sympathizers to that side. You are literally a white nationalist sympathizer.
Henry Carter
>wikipedia
Sebastian Sullivan
>I despise Nazis
Carter Thomas
>did you seriously bring that fucking marketplace of ideas bullshit into the conversation? yes. i don't see what you meant by this, but w/e. >YOU are the one literally lending credence to Fascists. i'm not the one creating sympathy for them by literally violently repressing them. >In the "modern" society you stroke your tiny mangled cock over, we abide by the Non Aggression Principle. i never said anything about the non aggression principle. >Publicly advocating for ethnic cleansing violates the Non Aggression Principle. if you think someone is advocating violence against other people, call the fucking cops. there are already laws against that. you don't need to resort to vigilante justice. >Therefore, get rekt in the street like the dog you are, fascist scum. you sound like the Sup Forumsacks who talk about killing communists in the streets. >As for you, see how quickly your "marketplace of ideas" dissolves when your privilege dissappears. *fart sounds* >I hope you choke on your blood like the rest of the fucking gutless losers like you that welcome fascism as a valid system of thought in any modern society. it's not a valid system of thought. that's why i engage in debate against facism. that's why i speak out against facist policy. i believe in individual freedoms, hence why i find it objectionable when mob violence is employed against anyone, even when i disagree with them.
>Fascism abuses the ideals of free speech and tolerance today so that it may crush them tomorrow so what, we should go ahead and destroy those ideals today so as to keep the nazi's from doing it tomorrow?
Brayden Ortiz
ITT
Gabriel Carter
>What happened to letting the other guy throw the first punch?
>Nazis don’t throw the first punch. Nazis burn the first Reichstag. t. Marinus van der Lubbe
Josiah Long
your debate does NOTHING
your voice means NOTHING
your sole contribution to fighting oppression is WORTHLESS
one punch made Richard Spencer afraid to leave his house again.
At this point, if you're not willing to act then just fucking shut up and sit down, you little bitch.
Justin Morris
I'm not approving of Spencer or Tim, but by this logic shouldn't someone be able to punch Bernie Sanders for being a communist? Sanders doesn't call himself a communist, but his ideals line up with communism on a lot of issues. Spencer doesn't call himself a Nazi, but his ideals line up with Nazism on a lot of issues.
Wyatt Adams
lol the song that comes after.
Dylan Harris
Are you seriously even attempting to argue that Communism is equal to Fascism in any way?
Isaiah Adams
the whole topic is about a Nazi getting punched, make up your mind if we're too delicate or too violent already
Gabriel Scott
Nice arguments
Hunter Jackson
>Are your seriously implying two collectivist authoritarian ideologies are alike!!?
Dylan Williams
In terms of damage it does, I believe Communism is worse. But that is beside the point. I do not believe either of those are good but we shouldn't attack people who promote those ideologies when they're doing nothing wrong.
Gabriel Russell
>Dialogue is for reasonable people acting in good faith. Dialogue is between two acceptable positions. “Taxes need to be raised” vs. “taxes need to be lowered” is grounds for dialogue. “Taxes need to be raised” vs. “Jews should be thrown in ovens” is grounds for a beating.
this is a really good point, and one that people should already fucking get through their heads.
Grayson Hernandez
I'd eat her asshole.
Hunter Collins
As much as I appreciate buzzwords and butts, why don't you tell me why you think communism and fascism are equal
Nathan Lopez
pc cuck
Ian Cruz
>LOL WE SHOULD KILL PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT RACE LMAO
Thomas Cooper
I just did. The only difference is their economic models.
Jayden Lewis
Sup Forums pls
David Lee
oh, well in that case get bent cocksucker
Lincoln Hall
>This country does not and has never believed in absolute free speech this country has never believed in vigilante justice to silence your political opposition either. >No change or power comes from principled debate. Ever. You cannot name one movement, government, or nation that succeeded in their goals through principled debate alone. civil rights movement. that was easy >Nobody owes principled debates to someone seriously advocating genocide. then don't debate them. you still don't have the right to assault anyone. >People that believe that the side that wants to exterminate an entire race deserves a chance to speak are sympathizers to that side. no. that's just patently false. i can defend someone's right to say something without also secretly adhering to that idea. >You are literally a white nationalist sympathizer. *fart noises*
Xavier Brown
Openly racist (Spencer) vs openly anti-racist (Sanders)
Do you see the difference?
>oh but racists shouldn't be physically assaulted for preaching their beliefs, they have a right to self-expression
Yeah true, but the only people who don't enjoy seeing a racist get punched in the face once in a while are fellow racists
Brandon Green
please dont upend my traschan
Jordan Miller
>implying alt-rightists are nazis Milo, Shapiro and Breitbart are/were all Jews
Aiden Brown
as far as i know Sanders didnt want to do any ethnic cleansing
Jack White
>tfw hate the alt-right or whatever the fuck it's called >can't join leftypol and others like them because I also hate communism with a passion
Isaac Reed
Neither did fascist Italy.
Brody Collins
Tim Heidecker is a salty bitch. His whining helped get MDE World Peace canceled
Adam Campbell
>your debate does NOTHING >your sole contribution to fighting oppression is WORTHLESS okay. this doesn't mean i can go punch people for saying things i find immoral. >one punch made Richard Spencer afraid to leave his house again. why not just gun him down in the street while you're at. i garuntee he won't be able to say things you don't like after that. you know, as long as we're violently suppressing speech. >At this point, if you're not willing to act then just fucking shut up and sit down, you little bitch. i am willing to act, but without being a bloodthirsty fucking animal.
Hudson Roberts
>jews cannot be nazis
Sebastian Gomez
>anyone that doesn't enjoy violent retaliation against someone saying words is a racist you're a fucking embarrassment to the left, and i'm ashamed to hold anything in common with you.
Julian Lee
>this country has never believed in vigilante justice to silence your political opposition either. It was literally founded on it but ok
>civil rights movement. The Civil Rights movement was successful due to boycotts, riots, marches, protests, and the efforts of the black panthers. In fact, the two most "principled debaters" of the movement were assassinated by their rivals, which did wonders for the government in their divide and conquer tactics towards the black communities in America during the late 70s and 80s.
>I can defend someone's right to say something without also secretly adhering to that idea. Yes, but you can't defend someone's right to say something without finding it inherently valid. Which is strange, because most normal functioning humans would say that black genocide is NOT valid.
Zachary Scott
top cuck what have demos done for American minorities
Matthew Davis
yes?
Liam Anderson
Why? Can you explain to me why the use of violence against someone who openly preaches racial extermination is wrong?
>if we kill the supervillain we're just as bad as him!
Are you still indoctrinated into thinking that all violence is wrong in all situations?
Grayson Howard
lmao people still fall for this meme? Tim had nothing to do with that shitty show
Andrew Morris
It's another Sup Forums thread disguised as music
cool
Jeremiah Moore
Are people unironically communists here? Which branches of communism? I'm genuinely curious. I've never met an actual communist before, irl or online.
Kevin Miller
you're not part of the left, you're a liberal. Liberals are NOT the left, and we would never associate with a gutless, passive idiot like you.
Wyatt Butler
>openly preaches racial extermination When did he do that
Jonathan Ross
i love it when these soft, pudgy-faced libtards advocate for violence against people they disagree with.
Let's play by those rules. I'll wear a necklace of ears taken from fat faggots like Heidecker
Zachary Wood
Odds are I could beat you up.
Asher Lee
Hey stinkos I just wanna remind you dipshits that you think this is cool and you all wear graphic t's with this on it and everybody from /fa/ laughs at you and your girlfriends have bad makeup and they look 30, Gang.
Gavin Howard
Why don't you tell that to my great grandparents who were thrown into the gulags you dumb fuck?
Jeremiah Lewis
Communism has been on the rise in the US over the past years. You have to be pretty sheltered/have never gone to college to never have met one.
Anyway I am actually an anarchist
Ryan Wright
Being racist is fucking stupid and he's an asshole. But he's not hurting anyone with his shit opinions. I don't approve of violence unless in self defense. We're fucking apes. We can talk it out, argue, and reject ideas we're against.
Jaxson Lee
>We're fucking apes
Gabriel Robinson
Commnism killed far more people than fascism, so do i have permission to knock out the next commie faggot I see?
Anthony Sanders
>It was literally founded on it but ok no it literally wasn't. >The Civil Rights movement was successful due to boycotts, riots, marches, protests, and the efforts of the black panthers. boycotts, marches, and protests are all forms of non-violent dissent. i would file that under "rational debate". >In fact, the two most "principled debaters" of the movement were assassinated by their rivals evidently, according to you, this was a valid strategy from the white establishment, considering violence is perfectly acceptable when it's against someone you disagree with. >Yes, but you can't defend someone's right to say something without finding it inherently valid. yes i can. i don't think people should be thrown in a gulag for saying "2+2=5". does this mean i think it's inherently valid?
Adrian Evans
Used to consider myself a democratic socialist but lately I've found myself identifying more and more with marxist autonomism. I know there are a few tankies on Sup Forums
Isaiah Cooper
lmao look at how quickly these pussies flip when you confront them with how fucking utterly useless they are
Noah Diaz
I go to college, but the only people I've met who are even socialist are really sheltered kids and a few people with autism. How do you think anarchism would work? I'm not trying to b8 you or anything, I ask this same things to ancaps
Nolan Collins
Just a word of advice/caution, if you advocate for violence or use it as a means to achieve ends, you had better be entirely prepared for the consequences. They used to have warrior codes for this type of thing -- know that it will come back to you. Are you ready to accept that?
Jordan Ortiz
user. If your oppressor is willing to use violence to silence you, you must be willing to use violence to fight back, especially considering that you are at a disadvantage.
Please don't fall into the neoliberal myth that MLK and Gandhi and Mandela were perfectly-behaved civil rights leaders who earned their achievements by politely asking.
Daniel Russell
>How do you think anarchism would work? the invisible hand naturally
Jack Sullivan
Im glad that he got punched cause hes a piece of shit But its not the right thing to do The guy that punched him is a piece of shit too (also this only gives spencer free publicity and he can pretend to be a victim) But i guess if your countrys laws allow nazis to openly spread their bullshit theres nothing else you can do except punching them