>Till I Die was first attempted during the recording of the 20/20 album. Johnston remembers Brian "playing it for the band and one member of the band didn't understand it and put it down, and Brian just decided not to show it to us for a few months. He just put it away. I mean, he was absolutely crushed. This other person just didn't like it." It has been speculated that it was Mike Love who initially criticized the song.
Brian probably should've gone solo right after Pet Sounds I like that they continued as The Beach Boys but there was way too much conflict Or, just get rid of Mike Love
Nolan Stewart
>in 1967 Van dyke parks left the Smile sessions because of infighting
fuck mike love
Easton Thomas
this was the closest they got to resolving that issue shows that mike doesnt really want to understand, he just wants to be right
Lucas Lewis
damn
Tyler Howard
>Brian probably should've gone solo right after Pet Sounds this only happened in the Light timeline we're on one of the darker ones
Ryan Scott
:(
Noah White
The fact that Bruce isn't naming "the person" tells me it's Mike. He's close with Mike (still tours with him) so I'm sure he doesn't wanna throw Mike under the bus cuz he knows people would be pissed to hear that Mike hated Til I Die and scared Brian into nearly shelving it.
Lucas Wood
someone should write a book & compile everything Mike Love did to ruin Brian's career. seriously.
Bentley Taylor
>Fuck Mike Love: A Compendium
Nicholas Russell
hahaha what a shit head. mike love is a bottomless pit of terrible.
Thomas Wood
someone post the picture of Mike Love with trump
Brody Nguyen
wtf i hate trump now
Evan Bell
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Angel Reyes
fuck that guy
Mason Diaz
>He insisted that he wanted to split the cost of the flight with me, so he gave me a card with his number on it. The next morning, I called to discover it was a disconnected number. And that was the last time I was Mike Love. He truly is evil.
Camden Mitchell
post rare brians
Tyler Butler
Why the fuck did they put up with Mike? >that was the last time I was Mike Love. WAHT A TWIST
Hunter Scott
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Colton Wilson
I looked this up because I'd never heard this and found this: >A ''mix-up'' led to the arrest of Brian Wilson, a member of the Beach Boys singing group, and two other men on criminal trespass charges at the Republican National Convention site, a lawyer said.
>The lawyer, Henry Ackels, helped Mr. Wilson, 42 years old, post a $200 bond. The complaint was dropped after officials of the Republican National Committee decided they did not want to prosecute him.
>Sgt. Jody Thomas of the police said the three had asserted they were guests of a person with credentials ''who neglected to escort them back out.'' And I'm fairly certain said person is Mike
Kayden Allen
imagine how far brian could've gone without mike being an asshole at every turn? it's heartbreaking
Cameron Cox
Briwi paying respects
Evan Martinez
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Kayden Gomez
read this a great example of mikes behaviour
Eli Long
Yea fuck Mike Love, thinking he's cool enough to hang with Trump!
was never released on an album, had a weird couple seconds of silence before the chorus that prevented it from getting widespread radio play, people just sort of forgot about it
great song
Dominic White
Agreed. The ending of Cabin Essence is one of the most haunting things ever written.
Jack Ramirez
>Family Love Michael
Isaac Cruz
I was listening to this song the other day and couldn't help but laugh picturing Love singing the "These things I'll be..." part.
Benjamin Perry
The Elements fire (both the smile version and the 2004 remake) is one the greatest underrated Brian songs ever.
Cabin essence is uneasy at the end but Elements fire..THAT gives me chills
Carter Baker
as much as i hate mike, his voice really is great. brian used it so well
Ayden Roberts
If we live in a just world, Mike Love will die long before Brian Wilson.
But we don't live in a just world. Mike Love is going to be the last of the Beach Boys to die.
Connor James
what i don't get is that, even as a hater of mike love, i think that his voice sounds pretty nice in some songs example: youtube.com/watch?v=h2CLfm02EaU but its like he goes out of his way to make his voice as unbearable as possible listen to the difference between his voice on that song and this song. why would he choose to sound like this? youtube.com/watch?v=iBFsJk6PWu0
Cooper Gonzalez
brian > mike
Caleb Wood
i mean i wasn't a giant fan of the nasally sound he had on some of their earlier stuff (and obviously summer of love), but when he harmonized with them it was amazing.
his vocals on Here Today are also goat, even though they probably had to drag him to the session kicking and screaming
Zachary Brown
it should have been a scene from Love & Mercy.
Austin Bennett
THIS should have been a scene from Love and Mercy
Tyler Ortiz
trumps president. brian dies first.
Zachary Torres
when did it happen?
Landon King
how can mike still not understand the lyrics to smile can mean anything how could you go through your life and not even try and understand that how could you ever enjoy neil young or bob dylan or anyone with slightly abstract lyrics fuck mike love
Oliver Parker
the saddest briwi tweets are when he wishes his brothers a happy birthday :'(
she's goin' bald all i wanna do isn't even underrated, everyone says it's their favorite on sunflower
Aaron Allen
is this from the made up early 90s autobiography?
i remember reading one of the beach boys (probably brians) was mostly fabricated or ghost written or something.
Noah Russell
it was in the biography of carol ann harris, aka lindsey buckingham's girlfriend in the 70s dennis is in the biography because christie mcvie (member of fleetwood mac) was banging him at the time
Brayden Robinson
damn, the 70s mustve been the best time to be alive. everyone is fucking everyone with drug fueled parties every weekeend
Evan Bell
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Josiah Bell
love old brian
Elijah Mitchell
She's going bald is nice but I can do without the chipmunk part in the middle
Jack Watson
according to behind the scenes that bit was nothing more that "heheh trippy lmao" and was not in the spirit of typical beach boys
Leo Clark
>If it's not about girls or cars, it's bullshit -Mike Love
Luis Morgan
you joke, but i feel like he genuinely believed that despite the fact that by the mid/late 60s everyone was writing arsty psychedelic lyrics, not girl/boy/car songs
Henry Ramirez
honestly even when brian was writing pet sounds and it was still about girls (only sad) mike hated it.
he literally just likes the early surf music they made. idk how they were related, mike is like the antithesis of brian imo
Liam Robinson
delete this
Samuel Carter
I don't even listen to the Beach Boys but this thread made me hate Mike Love
was he drunk? this shit is absolutely unbearable to watch
Kayden Ross
his excuse was that he hadnt eaten in a while doesnt really excuse decades of bad behavior tho
Joshua Walker
the juxtaposition of brian's earnestness and love for music and his family with mike's arrogance and condescension
Mason Bailey
Talent is useless without content and context, and Mike Love always provided Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys with both. For 20 odd years Brian would often hook up with other collaborators (or “new best friends” as author Steven Gaines dubbed them), and produced great work with many of them, but he always would go back to working with his cousin. The concept of the Beach Boys was Brian and Mike’s to begin with, and it provided all these other collaborators with a context to work with and bounce off of. Plus Mike and Brian were the same age, and both grew up in the same grim suburb in the same psychotic, dysfunctional family, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that the “purest” Beach Boy songs were always the ones the wrote together.
Andrew Wood
>id like to see the mop tops top that >cuts to footage of deceased beattle johns children
jesus he is a cunt
Adam Ramirez
this is one of my favorite videos of all time
Christopher Clark
I always thought this was a great rock and roll moment. Why do people want a boring , conformist cermeony?This was awkward as hell and added to their legend
Justin Young
kek
Carter Young
> mike is like the antithesis of Brian imo This is what gives the Beach Boys their great bitter sweet dynamic. There wouldn't be the same magic without Mike's extroverted ying to Brian's sensitive introverted yang
David James
nah mike's just a cunt. i'd feel more sympathy for him if he wasn't a large part of the reason brian abandoned Smile
the real kicker is how much brian and the beatles loved each other. they had a mutual respect and adoration for each other's music, and they both used each other for creative inspiration. then fucking mike love goes on stage and makes it into a competition. fuck him
Samuel Nelson
i know, brian was so happy and so nervous despite being such a big star mike was always the outgoing one which made him a better frontman, but i think being the frontman got to his head and made him think he was the leader
Ryder Brown
I disagree. I think thats true for the Beatles with Mccartney and Lennon where their disagreements made them strive to outdo each other. With the Beach Boys it seems more like disagreements just shut Brian down. Mike used to get the other band members to team up against Brian so he'd have to do what Mike asked.
Liam Jenkins
I'm not a regular around here but got damn does Brian's sick dance moves in I Get Around get me off every time youtube.com/watch?v=KnPL5OXSBNE
Mason Kelly
oh my god his little steering wheel move at 1:28 is so precious i love this video, partially because it caused the greatest shred video ever to be made youtube.com/watch?v=xYc4DT18EJg
Jason Perez
Dennis is best Beach Boy
Asher Cooper
why were dennis and carl such manlets
Luke Sullivan
they were probably about average height, brian was 6'3 and mike 6'0 so everyone else looked short in comparison
Connor Wood
makes me sad that mike's giant oaf of a cousin beat the shit out of him with the beach boys bodyguard :(
Robert Bell
just because you're average height doesn't mean you're not a manlet