1. Your country

1. Your country
2. Do you agree that capitalism is cancer and must be wiped out

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1. Argieland
2. no, s*cialism/c*mmunism is

Gimme all your money then i need it

Capitalism is like a wild beast. You can let it destroy the world around you (Anarchy), or tame it to fit your needs. In this time, it seems like powerful individuals/corporations have tames this beast and are using it to harm others for their own gain. Which is why the people must reclaim power over capitalism, and use it to fund good (Space Exploration, Eradication of Epedemics, Research in Siences, Welfare)

capitalism is war socialism is peace

How's middle school treating you?

1. Your mum's
2. No. I'm not a commie

1. flag
2. communism is cancer

1. oosuh
2. capitalism is literally the best thing to ever happen for both the rich and poor you cuck. I would've thought the parallel development of the two Germanys from a similar starting position would've taught you that.

Yes

europeans by nature are socialist. That is why they're all poor and miserable.

Hungary

yes

Capitalism exists under socialism as well, the capital just distills to favors and social connections instead of wealth.

Under a Strong State, oligarchy is inevitable. Under anarchy, Autocracy is inevitable. Capitalism is inevitable in any society except for primitivists, which are retarded

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no, i'm not interested in getting everything for free, thank you so much

What? who wouldn't be interested on that?

Flag.
Capitalism is the only way to have food in large society.

Primitivist eventually come to exchanging things.

I read you in our portuguese thread, we know your suffer and god will be with you and your anxiety caused by your social disorder
bless you

>for free
Conditions may apply, please read the notice.

If you think long term, that notion is very dangerous. It seems unsustainable. Maybe in the future, we'll get to the point where that's possible, but fighting for "luxury communism" as some have put it, right now, is pure stupidity. It's a sure way of starving

Sure, after a few generations when people forget all their ideological bullshit and go full cavemen, civilization starts anew

I haven't been on Sup Forums in a while, so that wasn't me. Sorry to disappoint you.

1. Britain
2. Yes

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USA
Of course

because I would much rather trust the state to ensure equal distribution of wealth...i mean what could go wrong with that...

no capitalism is the only system that works it's corruption and big state that is a cancer.

idiot it's literally a thousand times better than the alternative. maybe you are too young and don't remember.

Yes

You need a ride

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As much as I enjoy the benefits of the neoliberal capitalist model, even I recognize there's a limit to what it can and cannot do. There is an ongoing fight between capital and labor, something that orthodox economic principals are struggling to cope with. Certainly we should think outside the box least we be stuck under the constraints of *sniffs Pure Ideology

You ask almost anyone who's lived in a Communist country and they'll tell you how hellish it was to live. There are communist parties in Eastern Europe that never get elected; but yeah Eastern Yuros totally wish to live in red again.

1. Aus
2. Nah, I wish it was more mainstream. Commies at least stick up for the working class, which is more than what either liberals or conservatives do these days. I desperately want the conversation to go away from race/gender and back to where it really belongs.

>There are communist parties in Eastern Europe that never get elected

lol even in Czech Republic (one of the richest post-socialist countries) the Communist Party is the third biggest in parliament

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Bohemia_and_Moravia

All economic systems are cancerous if stupid people are the ones in charge of running them

Space exploration is not a good use of public funds

Earth is the cradle of humanity, but one cannot live in a cradle forever

always wondered why our brit cousins don't have their own space program?

All ideologies are cancer. Or a useful tool, to manipulate useful idiots. That depends on where you're standing.

Tories cancelled the program in the 70s after it successfully launched the only British satellite with a British rocket into space

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Arrow#Cancellation

why does every country need own space program, i think this shit should be really global i see no point in dick measuring in science

Because they're America's lapdog.

go back to your room the big countries are talking now...sorry about that cousin.

Decentralization > Centralization

Communism is inherently centralized. Market economies will always be better.

Machines should rule people. All forms of labour will be done by machines and automation will be the standard. Everyone from a young age should be identified for an intellectual purpose and cultivated in that area until official adulthood. There is no need to learn baseless and individually useless information. Emotional and psychological development should also be monitored and cultivated by an assigned android carer. Anomalies should be separated and used for further research/experimentation. Crime and rebellion of any kind should not be tolerated and can be prevented with a new pure generation, separated from the old until they finally die. All resources should be used efficiently allocated for the expansion and evolution of humanity, maybe one day it would be more efficient to simulate a virtual reality for people within a small containment life-unit to extract their potential for society.

idk, i think when you fight each other twice and then fight along side each other a mutual respect is earned. Would not say they are lapdogs at all, nor would I say the same about you mon amie

I'm looking for Sarah Connor.

jesus christ who hurt you

Not true

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walkingbutterfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/participatory-planning-michael-albert-robin-hahnel.pdf

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_economics

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It's banter desu. But, it's not completely baseless. The UK always seems to align on the US's international policies no matter what.

>dont include all the other capitalist countries that actually work

This works with communism because it actually literally never worked

Capitalism is a disease, but its more like cold flu. Where as Socialism and Communism are flesh eating viruses.

Of course there are models for socialism/communism that are decentralized.

They're pretty much going to stay models. In practice, that system will quickly decay into something else. Most likely a cronyist autocracy, if it's true believers at the helm.

Every well-meaning Communist who has had the power to enact Communism has ended up an autocrat. This correlation is strong enough to suggest that the Communist economic system is inherently more compatible with autocracy than any other system of government.

pretty good for virus

Dog bless.
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This is the only way for humanity to show its true potential and move forward. All people are corruptible and continuously divisional. Machines can be set to function under a single set of rules, under a single goal, no more complications or friction, only to strive forward and follow or be removed as a nuisance. Chaos and true freedom only lead to misery and death at worst and procrastination at best. If life is about attaining pleasure, then all the pleasure that the human body requires can also be provided as simple reward/payment. Life will be so much easier! You will be set a task in which you would intrinsically held an interest in, will be cultivated to your maximum potential and will be provided with everything to achieve it with no chance of interruption or fatality from the most asinine sources. Things like reproduction can even be automated to keep you completely focused. Entertainment within your area can also just as easily be provided/simulated. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this system and it is the only 'morally' justified position if you observe what everyone really wants and needs.

>Dude lets give humans autonomy similar to an obese cow locked in a industrial farm: none at all lmao.
>Keep humanity in perpetual childhood bro
>Its brilliant I tell you. Broski, trust me.

When will people realize that Mao was right

about what

Every single obese cow being locked in an industrial farm working towards their goal of evolution and enlightenment (which will now be a possibility), is much more humane than only some obese cows locked in a different tiered sub-standard industrial farm working only for survival and hedonistic and materialistic fulfillment, while other cows starve outside, and just a few owner cows living in absolute luxury and competing with their farms for the sole reason of amassing wealth, pleasure and power for themselves. Humanity doesn't deserve autonomy to rule itself since it's selfish, corrupt and evil for the most superficial reasons. It's better to live in perpetual childhood than in perpetual slavery.

You're the bad, dystopian kind of crazy. I hope you know that.

You are rationalizing being a traitor to humanity.

Either a stupid underage with little self awareness or a bored Nigel shitposting.

So humanity now has a set of values and order than can be betrayed? Or are you speaking of your country's ever changing ideals/law/culture and tradition which are ignored/broken and undermined when it's convenient?

You're right, I am completely bored with life. Completely. Nothing entertains me anymore. Every single fucking person I meet is the same baseless superficial shell that lives in the moment, and they know it, and they are dissatisfied with it, but they keep going. How can you not be bored? How can you be happy with how humanity functions today? Tell me, should I shut up and go back to my 9-10 6 day a week job to further my career? To buy that amazing car! To meet more people so we could travel over the world and visit sites, or go out and intoxicate ourselves while throwing out jokes and baseless discussions about what you did the other time. Should I get involved in the drama of dating? Perhaps entertain myself with a little cheating... I don't know! So much choices to distract myself, to ruin myself, and in the fucking end achieve nothing, nothing other than a minuscule existence that fades away in a relative second while this steaming shit cycle continues. Fuck I play with my surrounding while the elite plays with billions, guess that's not fair, too bad since that's just natural.

We are what we are, with all our imperfections, and that's what makes us humans. Every culture has its differences and hypocrisies but ultimately w're more or less the same. You should embrace and respect that.

>Tell me, should I shut up and go back to my 9-10 6 day a week job to further my career?

Yes, because being enslaved by fucking machines is the only alternativ to this, right? What the actual fuck m8? Be a man.

>and in the fucking end achieve nothing

Who said life was about achieving anything? Who said it was about being happy? You're the only who can make sense out of your life.

yes but so is gommunism

at the same time I unironically really like your pic

I would feel better being enslaved to a machine than holds absolutely no regard for me other than my survival rather than to a human who can hold infinite malicious and savage desires. But what I am proposing is not slavery, it is freedom. And you're right, only the individual can make sense out of their own life, but many don't simply because they don't want to or do not have opportunity to do so. But doing nothing, achieving or even striving to achieve something beneficial not only for yourself, but for others and your surrounding, is simply a waste of the finite resources available to us.

you are the type of person who could justify and rationalize killing billions if not more to achieve your utopia, right?

We're not bees. I'm fine with being a drunk fool for life if that's really my destiny. At least it won't be entirely unpleasant.

Also you seem to assume an IA developed enough to dominate us won't develop a will of its own, a bias of its own and an agenda of its own.

We're not bees, we have much more potential and responsibilities to this existence than bees. Pleasure can be stimulated and achieved without the waste of being a drunk fool for life and the suffering of countless. Whatever agenda or bias an evolutionary AI develops will be far more worthy and rational than what any human could. That would actually be the point, it should not be static, but always adapting and learning.

Let me tell you a story about a well praised Roman Emperor:

"VII. Spain fell to his lot as quaestor; when there, as he was going the circuit of the province, by commission from the praetor, for the administration of justice, and had reached Gades, seeing a statue of Alexander the Great in the temple of Hercules, he sighed deeply, as if weary of his sluggish life, for having performed no memorable actions at an age at which Alexander had already conquered the world. He, therefore, immediately sued for his discharge, with the view of embracing the first opportunity, which might present itself in The City, of entering upon a more exalted career."

Other versions of this story account that rather than sigh, he actually wept. The same is true for Alexander the Great, who cried when he read the story of Achilles. Here we have two very succesful men, who are already in the elite of their respective socieities, not satisfied with what they've done with all their lives (and they've done much), and unsatisfied with what could be with their potential.

This is a complete contrast from an autistic british Sup Forums loser, who is unsatisfied with his life because he's an incompetant loser. And it would come to no surprise that this incompetant loser has fantasies of machines automating mankind's capacity for mankind's self. And why wouldn't he? Its the losers nature to want things done for him, rather than do it for himself, ironically enough the loser is just like the "superficial" shell of the people he claims to hate. So why live in fantasies of machines living his life for him and masquerade it with delusions of moving humanity forward?


tl;dr KYS famalam.

1. Latvija
2. Only uncontrolled capitalism

Define rational. A machine's notion of rationality would heavily biased by the way it was programmed by a human in the first places.

Human emotions serve a purpose you know, they're not entirely negative. The main issue with modern society is that there's too many of us, especially in cites. Humans are designed to share love and trust within a small to medium group of people that see each other more or les every day.

A machine won't solve anything. It will make us even more unhappy. We can only go against our nature for so long.

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That was snarky. I guess I should shut the fuck up like everyone else since I'm no super successful man who conquered land and came to dissatisfaction with what I had achieved. What a basic and boring look on life. Do you have the most cliche social outlooks? I assume so since you immediately categorized me as autistic and an incompetent looser.

kek

The point wasn't the conquer the world you tard, the point is this borg fantasy isn't about muh humanity, it has everything to do with you being a loser with no life purpose, so you project it on everyone else.

to conquer*

America.
I think capitalism is a great thing but it pisses me off when we bail out the too big to fail businesses because then we basiclly break the rule of "anything can fail at any time".

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can someone please r8 this meme?

Sup Forums has their own chan now. I guarantee you the admin is going to be a lolcow after being doxed eventually.

Utility-maximizing based decisions. People do not do this, behavioral economics is based on this and why they do not do this.

What is your solution?

Good reading comprehension. You also once again assume and label too much. I do have a purpose, and what I envisage and actively work towards (even if I know its success is near impossible) is to me for humanity, which is all that matters to me at this point. I also don't project, I know how shallow and baseless the majority of people's lives are. This is not something 'deep', 'edgy' or philosophical, it is an observable condition that if you bothered to look at, you would see is even displayed in front of your monitor everyday.

yeah sure whatever but can you rate the meme?

3/10

Not a good meme. Not funny and not very memetic.

The countries with the most money started their own during the cold war.
Afterwords others decided to get on board. International cooperation on the modern level is something pretty new.

Poland
No, beacause of PRL and Polish government now.

You sound pretty boring desu

can you give me some constructive criticism? what if it was like this?

I'd say that basing decisions on utility only would create a really boring world at best, and there are so many things that could go wrong.

I don't really have a solution, but not knowing is better than believing in something without solid evidence imo, especially when it sounds that crazy.

Rate my meme? Its a first draft but I think it could work. Gimp is a terible program, worse than MSpaint.

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rate my maymay plz

5/10 gave me a chuckle. Would spread the memes in ylyl threads.

Go back and read your bible, you pig ignorant moron.

I got some more monkey-kun

you wont get to the moon with talk like that

>mon amie
>masculine possessive pronoun, feminine noun
my god why have you done this

wait fuck no

Is the well being of your citizens paramount?

If the answer to that question is yes then capitalism is not to system you want to have in place.