Melthrough confirmed in Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant No.2

www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20170202/k10010862391000.html

announcement of March 2015,
Unit 1 was announced as Meltdown,
Unit 2 as Meltdown.
but, The second unit is now confirmed as a meltdown (February 2, 2017)

The second reactor was also found with
a 2m hole in the concrete wall
of the containment vessel.


The radiation dose of Fukushima Unit 2
: 530 ㏜ / h
Level of death immediately when a person approaches

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uh oh

Oh shit.

who cares.

Why are Japanese nuclear reactors so prone to failure?

Was there another natural disaster?

How many people died from the Fukushima nuclear disaster?

Won't know until the last cancer victim dies.

>yellow dust from china
>radioactive water from japan

enjoy being the armpit of east asia SK

Enjoy dying of radiation sickness over the next few decades

This shit is why we closed our nuclear power plants

They were old and designed and built by GE
New ones are made by Japanese companies

Don't die Japan, passing from radiation it's sucks. Try to think something like throwing it into sun.

Well, how many died from Chernobyl?

I love nuclear accidents.

>GE
the reason they suck

This is LITERALLY what Godzilla was trying to prevent? Why didn't we listen to it!?

TEPCO is owned by Yakuza gangsters

also yakuza are using fukishima as blackmail against the government, they want gambling legalized

All of them

Now we know why those Japanese officials were crying who broke down on camera and told the real news, not the fake ones they were instructed to tell, when the plant had its first accident.

Why do the Japanese love radiation so much?

japan is officially Fuked.

Death is all that is: a pure nuclear nightmare and they are not telling us everything -- it is much worse and they cannot do a thing about it----let huge wave come in and throw all that into a major city and it is over

54 seconds and you're dead.
How many thousands of nuclear plants on the planet are we now hoping never go badly wrong?

>it is much worse and they cannot do a thing about it

they could build a levee or a larger containment unit

When i was about 7 years old during the threat of the cold war and knowing radiation was very dangerous, then heard that Japan was building nuclear power stations in their earthquake prone nation i understood at 7 years old that this was a very bad idea.

ones in Russia where they don't build containment structures. Don't worry if they blow up winds will only take them to Europe or China, not us (except during hurricane season)

So JAPANs nuclear program is harming us but you sanction IRAN?

>implying they can afford to build that
>implying they will do that to begin with

rip anime
also rip chile

Fucking japs you killed us all!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAA A AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA A

Earthquakes aren't a problem for nuclear power plants. California used to have four of them all on the coast within miles of major fault lines but they never had any problems from Loma Prieta or the Northridge quakes.

Oh well why did the clever scientists not plan for an earthquake when constructing the plant in the first place

Hmmm

levees are just piles of dirt, they're not exactly expensive once land acquisition (not a problem around the plant) is done with

>Commiefornia
>Not going to have major nuclear disaster when it sinks into the ocean

This is an unspeakable catastrophe, the world needs to work together to fix this, I pray a solution comes quickly.

>California
>Earthquakes
Yeah. Nope

The reactor is US made= faulty design. partially below sea level that's why the pumps failed. . .

Say that when the big one hits Commiefornia

>being this retarded

because the reactors in question were made for export, and Jap engineering requirements are lower than NRC ones

Does anyone remember all the warnings and fuss about one reactor melting down at Chernobyl and the precautions advised all across Europe? But this time, multiple US designed reactors melt down in US controlled State of Japan- Pah...pay no heed, nothing to bother your little heads about- no precautions necessary- carry on eating Tuna...

CA can't plausibly have a civilian nuclear disaster because all the nuke plants are closed. Right now the only operating reactors in CA are owed by the US Navy and all of them are used for propulsion not commercial power.

I don't know about the rest of you all but people are dropping like flies with cancer around me and the blue snow brings me no comfort. Clean energy? Humanity will look back on the nuclear energy with deep regrets.

Americans don't eat fish because fish it's more expensive than beef, chicken and pork.

I get that you want to shitpost but are you even an actual American?

Nuclear fuel can melt steel beams.

Fucking weebs will defend this

Where are the wonderful, Earth loving Green political party when HELP is being searched?? No where since the whole GREEN party is a fake and they have no love at all for you and the planet. Why do not nations ask top help Japan?

They did, they just didn't plan for a fuckhuge tsunami right after.

And Japan still exports rice to America. No wonder muricans are going nuts nowadays.

Are we finally going to see japanese people with superpowers like in my animu?

this is very low quality bait

It's clean energy, highly effective, supplies any demand no matter how large your country is.
The chance of error should be minimal, really. It's just that Japan isn't a land suitable for such things, their natural disaster ratio is way too big and their location shouldn't even allow human life to thrive normally.

the Japanese tsunami was man made, The U.S and Japanese government detonated a nuclear bomb right over the Japanese tectonic plate, (Japan Trench)....then to hide the radiation they collapsed the Fukushima reactor and released water to the sea to disguise the atomic explosion radiation.....why..?.....ask emperor Akihito he is NWO and considers Japanese as animals...

It's like reading yahoo comments

If I'm correct, 530 Sieverts equals 53,000 rads. There is little doubt that exposure at that level would be fatal in minutes.

How incompetent these Japanese can be. Stop kissing Trump's as$ and demonize China all the time, fix your own goddam radiation leak already. TEPCO refused international helps in the beginning and decided to fix it on their own and failed, like yep we screwed up real good lol, tough luck... It was almost like they were doing this on purpose.

Thi is being shared with the whole world as the poison continues at lethal levels... It is being detected on the West Coast of the United States... How long can this go on until people start literally falling in place for no apparent reason?

Personally people should boycott the olympics in Japan, no kidding why take the risk when you consider the level of radiation? The only question to ponder after that is this now an ELE (extinction level event) ? Question should have been asked from day 1. Too early to tell but go look at the western seaboard of the US where the government has pulled the radiation monitoring. Actions speak louder than words.

Heh. They still haven't built the sarcophagus for the Chernobyl reactor 4.
People don't give a shit about radiation, it kills slowly. The rich beaurocrats will be long dead.
In Japan's case there's even less they can do, it's in the fucking water.

Because Asians fucking suck and only care about money. Those reactors were pretty shoddily made to cut corners.

>lel lets save $50 million at the 20% risk of irradiating our already tiny country and slice it so the gubment won't know what we know lel

>whoops
>whoops again

>Was there another natural disaster?

It's been an ongoing disaster that was just swept out of the headlines because nobody knows how to deal with it.
They have been trying to build a giant wall of underground ice around the whole thing because they have been pumping billions of gallons of sea water on it to keep it from melting down and going who knows where and building endless giant water tanks to hold all the radiated water they wind up with which is the only thing keeping it somewhat under control, but obviously you can't just keep building water tanks for decades.
So it was never fixed or ok and nobody knows what to do so they have been just been releasing all sorts of positive sounding bullshit to make it seem like it's ok and being resolved.

As long as the Japanese government remains in denial over this disaster, this thing is going to leak and be an environmental nightmare for decades, perhaps, centuries to come. Like Trump says A TOTAL DISASTER.
By the way...you might want to talk to the Russian engineers about getting that thing a domed cover like they put over Chernobyl.

They tout nuclear energy as such a clean and inexpensive source of energy. I wonder what it looks like when you start factoring in these kinds of disasters, cost of disposing of spent nuclear fuel, and the lack of government subsidies. Face it leaders of the world, solar and wind are now the cheapest energy sources and help make the world a safer place, from nuclear disasters waiting to happen and the bombing of other countries to steal their oil.

Japan has ruined their island-nation with their greed, and
now again Japan is showing their aggression to its neighbors
in order to grab neighbors' land.
just like israel, their psychosis is danger to humanity.

honestly I don't know why they don't just let it melt all the way through the crust, it'd be safer down there since the radiation would not longer be able to get up to the surface

Literally a Nuclear Wngineering major here that works on a reactor.

You all have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Bad shit is nearly impossible nowadays. Being against Nuclear power is like blaming muslims for killing people while car accidents and McDonald's greasy food kills people at tens of thousands of times the rate.

You're suckered into buzzwords and old political fear mongering-turned solution bullshit. You see it time and time again.

WW3 is on going. No matter what news vomits, preplanned war by NWO initiated at 9/11 by termites preemptive thermo nuclear melted down all steels of WTC. No matter all over in the world under radiation shower. Depleted uranium spreded in middle east , iraq/libya. Japanese must be happy by counter acting usa for hiroshima and nagasaki.

Is it true that somebodies put mini-nukes inside Fukushima nuclear power plant and destroyed it?

530 sieverts, thats over 5x more than the elephants foot in Chernobyl. YOU don't know what you're talking about.

>I wonder what it looks like when you start factoring in these kinds of disasters, cost of disposing of spent nuclear fuel, and the lack of government subsidies.

1. diasters don't happen if you build a big enough containment building, or (better yet) can be mitigated completely with modular units (as the industry is now turning towards)
2. storing nuclear fuel is relatively cheap compared to the power output, it's why South Carolina and Kentucky have been building more units even though Yucca Mtn is only just now getting underway
3. everyone get subsidies, because cheap electric power is rather important for a healthy economy

Who can think of building something like that on the coast of Japan which has one of if not the highest amount of earth quakes per year? Big capitalist corporations do not seem to care one bit about people or their safety, only about selling something no one wants around but them.

>trying to argue with tards

there's a reason why everyone agreed to do modular reactors, because it's the only way to shut these people up because they can be moved if there's a problem with them

Russia didn't do shit, m8. The Soviet Union held information for 3 or 4 fucking days before telling everyone that the reactor had blew up, so everyone in Pripyat was exposed to it. And then they sent a shitload of Ukranians to dump sand and shit on top of it, obviously every single one of them died, over 500 people. And then they said they were making a giant sarcophagus to cover the entire thing, which to this day isn't complete. The reactor is still leaking and a couple years we saw the pic of the "Elephant's foot", a gigantic molten mass of radiation by product that keeps growing.
The Soviet Union fucked Ukraine in the ass more than black cocks have fucked american pornstars. They ain't no place to seek advice.

Chernobyl all over again

A very rare, honest report on the subject for a change. Did this one slip under the radar? I'm surprised that this information wasn't censored by Abe and Co's strict media 'laws'. Perhaps Kyodo will be punished yet.

And the combustible engine has never been improved upon or has accidents yes? The electric motor has never been improved upon or had accidents?

Nice job with the 3 caps btw. This will be my last response, this is Sup Forums after all I'm not really to convince anybody.

Except that's not going to fucking happen. How stupid are you really?

TEPCO is employing experts from the IAEA. There are a lot of outsider consultants working on this disaster. The problem is that no other disaster has occurred at this magnitude and the conditions are very different than Chernobyl was. They seem to be honest about what's happening and making a decent effort on a very dangerous operation. I wonder how long the men would last if they did what the Chernobyl crew did and had liquidators go into the danger area and clean up the mess by hand.

But it's under control, and it's cheap and safe!!

All this means is that it'll be impossible to decomission within their five time extended period, and will cost trillions more. Well done, TEPCO!

Japan dont realise how bad this they have lied to the community about the milk being safe also in the beginning they lied about the radiation levels in the ocean and ground water and when it blew up there was a plume above the reactor that was shown in world news also to the people of japan by giving the ok to use nuclear energy from the beginning

So, they finally admit the containment vessel was ruptured and rods melted through it. This scenario is exactly what was described in the movie, the China Syndrome. They are extremely lucky they were able to cool these melted rods. However, this does not mean they are clear of a China Syndrome disaster. At present, the technology does not exist for dealing with these melted fuel rods and if there is another major failure in the cooling system it will eventuate. This truly is a nuclear nightmare and far from 'under control' as Abe boldly stated to the IOC. And, the craziest thing about this whole scenario is, it could have easily been averted if TEPCO had not been lying about their safety upgrades and had implemented the advice from 2002 of getting the back up generators off the ground and waterproofing all electrical systems. Yeah, the first series of meltdowns were a catastrophe, but the next round could be Armageddon!

>Except that's not going to fucking happen.

It is. All major nuclear power suppliers in America are moving towards modular reactors as a means of getting costs down. Not only does it increase safety (malfunctioning reactors can be moved offsite for disposal) but it also lowers maintence problems (due to increased documentation, less custom engineered designs) and standardizes reactor design across both utility and propulsion production facilities.

It's good all around, especially for safety because even if all the reactors melt down they can be put into caskets and transported away.

Meltdown? I remember watching the experts from Tokyo University laughing and assuring the public there was no meltdown. Of course, the public didn't know the level of donations to Tokyo University from Tepco.

Everything about this disaster - from the lying on TV, the confusion, the fact they didn't expect it, to Abe saying its all under control, to laborers not getting proper treatment because of mafia involvement - it's like a case study in everything that's wrong in Japanese political and business culture.

Study this right from the beginning and you will understand Japan.

Then get this, Mr. Whistleblower.

TEPCO controls all information about Fukushima.

The 2014 State Secrets law made whistleblowing illegal and receiving information from whistleblowers illegal and punishable by up to 5 years in jail.

"As Reporters Without Borders put it, “How can the government respond to growing demands for transparency from a public outraged by the consequences of the Fukushima nuclear accident if it enacts a law that gives it a free hand to classify any information considered too sensitive as a state secret?” Masako Mori, the state minister in charge of the bill, has explicitly said the law could be applied to the nuclear power industry because nuclear power plants are potential targets for terror attacks, though he also assured people it would not affect the release of information regarding Fukushima Dai-Ichi".

"Even journalists and activists who unwittingly solicit information deemed to be state secrets can be prosecuted under this new law, as those who conspire to leak state secrets face up to five years in prison and those who acquire state secrets through illicit means face 10 years"

"Even more worryingly, the process of defining state secrets is entirely in the government’s hands"

"there is no protection for whistle-blowers and no mechanism to punish government officials who classify information as a “state secret” for frivolous or self-serving reasons".

"By decreasing transparency in government, the new state secrets law is a fundamental challenge to Japanese democracy".

thediplomat.com/2014/12/japans-troubling-state-secrets-law-takes-effect/

Given TEPCO's monopoly on information from Fukushima and this draconian State Secret Law it's is simply impossible to know the truth about what is happening in Fukushima.

Nuclear energy is good only if your cuntry is not on the ring of fire desu

that has nothing to do with what I said

Because you don't know what's going on in Fukushima, nigger

Your picture is this point in my picture.
Still the bottom of the reactor is unclear.

If nuclear waste is super hot, why don't they use it to boil water to turn turbines and generate more electricity?

Nuclear technology should be banned, for good never comes from something that is evil. So called "therapeutic" radiation doses just cause more cancers later. We could do without smoke detectors also. The planet should keep a couple of the biggest nuclear bombs to defend against killer asteroids, but we are not politically ready for that yet as our governments are not stable enough.

How incompetent these Japanese can be. Stop kissing Trump's as$ and demonize China all the time, fix your own goddam radiation leak already. TEPCO refused international helps in the beginning and decided to fix it on their own and failed, like yep we screwed up real good, tough luck...wth? It was almost like they were doing this on purpose.

Are you forgetting 3 mile island? See the China Syndrome!

It's a forecast of Tsunami after the earthquake, not radiation.

Look the scale name "cm" in the right side of the map.
"cm" means centimeter of wave.

>The planet should keep a couple of the biggest nuclear bombs to defend against killer asteroids

My sides.

my comment was in regards to the increased safety of modular nuclear reactors

care to address this subject?

fucking THIS

it especially infuriates me to see people spouting the "let's just move to le wind and solar xDDD" meme, while failing to realize that's literally impossible to use those on a massive enough scale to actually be relevant in electrical production in the Western World. Not only is there not enough usable surface for the amount of solar panels/wind turbines needed to actually replace current sources, but there aren't even enough rare earth elements to provide for all of the rare-earth magnets needed for their construction (of which China is essentially the sole provider, btw). And of course that's not even talking about other much more obvious issues (i.e. economical costs), and the fact that wind turbines don't even break even economically until they've been in service for like 7 fucking years.

t. energy engineering major

You aren't being fun at all, Japan

Because then it creates irradiated water.

...that said, it is possible to use said water inside nuclear saltwater rockets (although, said rockets also spew radiation everywhere)

See The China Syndrome, you don't know what you're talking about

Three Mile Island was a success story, a major disaster was avoided due to good planning, high quality equipment, and excellent training. The reactor had to be written off though.

You realize that costs trillions of dollars?

Why not just capture the steam and reuse it? They already create irradiated water trying to keep the stuff cool, don't they?

>don't even break even economically
environmentally*

>being this retarded

>not answering the question