Stockhausen is the only one I'd really call a troll.
Dylan Hall
? none of them are trolling especially not stockhausen because he 100% believed his own bullshit
Colton Walker
Schoenberg and Carter made perfectly good music, and though Xenakis didn't, he at least tried. Cage may have been shit, but he was disgustingly sincere. Stockhausen, however, was clearly just fucking with us.
and here is a rare example of a truly clueless person
Austin Brooks
see
Isaac Brown
this guy sucks
Jackson Brown
petzold, petzposter or both?
Jack Turner
just petzold. petzposter is good.
Isaac Anderson
then you should stop posting petzold
Luke Thompson
It is good to post Petzold.
Michael Edwards
Hey guys, recently listed to some Russian composers. Really liked Tchaikovsky, Prokofiev and Dmitri Shostakovich. What mega folder would fit this style? and is there more stuff that I should try that are more Russian style? I'm really interested in Russian music.
>tfw composers today don't whisk you away to faraway dream lands and fairy tale worlds anymore
Why is everything so edgy today? I want classical today to have happen to same magic as Rimsky-Korsakov, Mussorgsky, Borodin, Ravel, Stravinsky, Debussy, and Delius
gielen has the best 7th, idk who told you that his 4th was good solti is shit rattle is shit abbado is shit horenstein is shit too klemperer is dogshit
and barshai has the best 10
Kevin Green
shit taste starting from the pic you attached
Grayson Turner
upvoted!!!!!
Joshua Richardson
I don't know if cage is a troll but his music can be used to troll people.
Jordan Smith
Favorite R. Strauss recordings? Pls nothing by Hackbert von Karajoke
Jayden Lee
god kate bush was so fucking hot
Easton Hill
Composers like Mussorgsky seemed to write music for a purpose. Or it feels like it has a purpose to me. A lot of composers now do it as an intellectual exercise or they are so focused on individuality that they don't write anything which can emotionally move a large number of people. All this is subjective anyway and some people here may like new complexity....
>man shoulder blades >man nose >wobbly legs >slut shit tier
Benjamin Wright
Recommend me some good level 1~4 piano pieces to develop technique and that don't sound boring. I can already play 6 Ecossaises WoO 83, Für Elise and preludes 4, 7 and 20 by Chopin.
Blake Campbell
what do you consider boring?
Ian Allen
it's fine. you're going to get different answers from everyone since people conduct his works very differently. for an introduction to any composer i don't think recording selection is super important. you won't find Mengelberg's 4th particularly shocking unless you hear more "regular" versions first, for example.
of those picks i would probably suggest Solti and Rattle are the worst ones.
Metamorphosen is probably my favorite piece from Strauss, that or the Vier letzte Lieder. i like the Furtwangler recordings of both of those the most, but the Lieder is especially in terrible sound quality even though the singing from Flagstad is lovely.
Slowik in Metamorphosen for a stereo alternative. i'm not really sure which Lieder alternative i would listen to, maybe the usual suspects like della Casa or Schwarzkopf (some may suggest she overacts)
He tends to put a bland sheen on everything he touches, it's a well oiled featureless Karajan machine, he's the Spector of classical. Of course he can't be blamed for his obnoxiously sycophantic fans.
Bortniansky is great if you like Choir and don't mind Ukrainian
Ethan James
memes aside, you should really check out liapunov's piano sonata in F alongside with his other piano works such as his transcendental etudes and his barcarole op.46
Gavin Long
Kek I remember that shit The scherzo is 'Molto Vivace' and he plays it like an Andante
>A whole essay could be written about Charles Rosen's character, and truth to tell it was not the prettiest picture. In the early 70s, when I took his seminar at SUNY Stony Brook, his manner could best be described as New York homosexual intellectual sadism. A student would try with difficulty to formulate an idea, and Rosen's impatient "yes, yes" would indicate how obvious and elementary the student's comment was. Rosen was a genius, you were not, and he wasn't going to let you forget it. There was an upright piano in our classroom, and on several occasions Rosen would toss off a Chopin etude before starting class, just to show he could. A good friend of mine, who nonetheless venerates Rosen as almost "God himself," has recounted to me the often painful experience of writing his doctoral dissertation on Verdi under Rosen at the University of Chicago. Our seminar nicknamed him "Chuck," though never was anyone less a Chuck than Charles.
>He also favored the male students, and the women knew it. And he could be wickedly funny. I delivered my personal presentation on Wayne Booth's The Rhetoric of Fiction, where Booth argues how novelists shape their readers' reactions through the creation of an "implied author" or "second self." At one point Keith M., the best-looking and most naïve boy in our class, made the very earnest statement that for Booth, "the author makes his readers." A perfectly timed pause, then Rosen, with a wicked glint in his eye, replied: "To the pure in heart, all is pure."
>And if you were of no use to him, Rosen had no use for you. Many years after our class, I was seated in Carnegie Recital Hall for an all-Ferneyhough recital, and Rosen took the row in front of me. I made bold to say hello and that I had taken his seminar 30 years earlier. Rosen: "Thirty years is a long time," and turned his back on me.
Can you play guitar? because that would help you write for it much more easily. Certain chords and combinations of notes are easy to play, and others aren't. Get an image of the fretboard and you'll see roughly what will be playable and which open strings you can use. Sit down with a guitarist and see what they're capable of
Jaxson Phillips
How did you even come across that quote? I've never really thought about it but the word homosexual really fits him like a glove. He never married, did he? He denounced Nazism multiple times, I'm unsure now if that was just common sense, genius that he was, or if he took personal offense to it.
My opinion of him is generally positive, his writings contain quite a few neat anecdotes, he had a great sense of humor as evidenced by his lectures and interviews, and his piano playing was top notch. Virtuoso! is one of my favorite albums of all time, I like Hamelin slightly more for the Strauss-Godowsky fantasy but Chuck's rendition of Carnaval de Vienne is impossibly good, even better than Rosenthal's. It's one of those desert island albums that I revisit frequently, especially when I'm running low on motivation.
Jack Jackson
Have any of you visited the symphony by yourself? Do people care if you are alone?
Joshua Turner
no it's usually just a bunch of old farts and their families, no one cares who you're with
