Everyone seems to be bashing European politicians for letting in refugees and not doing enough to stop terroristic attacks.
I've been living in Germany for all of my life, I moved to Finland for few months, years maybe, I don't know how long I'll be here.. But I love my country. Yes, there is inequality and crime and terrible things happening in Germany and in the rest of Europe. Like everywhere else.
But if you are a bit familiar with Merkel, you should know she is one of the best, if not the best policy makers in the world. Since her election, German economy, aid for those in need and pretty much everything else has improved a lot.
As to the refugees, of course they are an incredible burden for Germany and other European countries. But what do you want to do if not let them in? You can't close the borders (see Schengen and the most fundamental elements of the EU). In my opinion, you can't send them back or just let them die on their own, because that's not only cruel but also selfish as f***. We have the capabilities of taking them in, the majority of these people are the most thankful and giving members in our whole society. And if other EU countries, or the US, or just anybody would have agreed to at least take in a fraction of the number Germany took in, no country would have been in much trouble to give them a new home.
And what about the terrorists? First off, the majority of terrorists aren't refugees. Check that on Wikipedia or whereever you like. Most of them are radicalised at home or in the internet. And those who came as refugees would have found another way, no doubt. It's easy to get to Europe. This place is so open in any way, you just cannot give 100% security. As many of you might know, "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.".
So for god's sake let these people live here, don't blame an entire group that is 99.9% peaceful.
finland is irrelevant country in memes superseded by australia canada and amerindian and it shows in the quality of their posts
Josiah Williams
Please fuck off
Brody Moore
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Oliver Murphy
>So for god's sake let these people live here, don't blame an entire group that is 99.9% peacefu right then ahmed calm down
Jackson Sanders
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Isaac Perry
Why not gas the migrants instead?
Charles Price
>I don't know how long I'll be here.. How about not very long?
Noah Allen
Wait, this is pasta >In my opinion, you can't send them back or just let them die on their own, because that's not only cruel but also selfish as f***. .
Alexander Peterson
stop namefagging
Ayden Hughes
Please fuck off from finland NOW do not ruin the spurdo autismo mememaster ecosystem
Isaac Morales
Nice bate
Parker White
>J'heart Marine >J'love Marine What the fuck is this? Is it supposed to say "J'taime marine"?
Jayden Nelson
>So for god's sake let these people live here
No
Joshua Gomez
>don't blame an entire group that is 99.9% peaceful. ahahahah yeah right you know the problem isn't even the terroristic ones, it's the niggers ones i'd rather keep the 0.1% of terrorists and then kick out the 99.9% that is just absolute niggers, doesn't work, leech welfare, riots, criminals, etc etc etc islam is just icing on the cake otherwise they would just be christian like american niggers and still just as problematic and ruining europe
Nolan Barnes
J'aime you fucking imbecile
Camden Cox
Pasta
Tyler Morris
why the Nintendo hat?
John Nelson
why is he wearing a confederate flag with a sign in french.
im so confused.
Tyler Jones
Pronto mamma, MAMMAMAMMAMAMA
Brayden Anderson
The translator lost his leg because he accidentally caught shrapnel in the ambush he lead the americans with him into, right?
Nintendo hates homos, its a Sup Forums meme that came from the 3ds
Josiah Roberts
First of all, no we don't have the capabilities of taking all refugees. Refugees bring many problems, such as social conflicts (between different ethnic groups, religions, countries etc.) and crime. Also refugees cause a shit ton of costs.
Secondly, the way we are taking the refugees is a threat. The people who come into Germany and Europe do not get controlled at the borders. Also they are let in without passports or any form of identification. This is how people like Anis Amri, the Berlin attacker come to Germany. Also people who come from north africa and other places with absolutely no reason to fly (wich Amri was btw too) come here this way because they wouldn't get a citizenship the legal way because of various reasons.
Another problem created by this is that people are having dozens of identities, registered at the authorities. Then they collect money for up to 23 different identities. And if they get caught, they go to another city and start it all over again.
And one of the biggest problems: Islam and the islamic culture. Those people are mostly coming from regressive medieval countries who are basically funded on the islam, a totalitarian hateful ideology. Sure, in Europe, we have freedoms, such as the freedom of faith, we are tolerant and accepting. We are progressive. But those people are not, and we can't tolerate intolerance. This would mean the end of european freedoms. We can't tolerate an ideology wich is supressing womens rights, homophobe, antisemitic and xenophobic. Europe has fought for it's values, and we can't give up on them in the name of a blind naive tolerance.
Sebastian Kelly
t. furente
James White
ti sgozzo
Lincoln Cooper
Yes. You can and should send them back.
Politics and the safety of your own people is not something emotions should interfere with.
Also, >it's cruel. What do you think is more cruel:
-mass rapes, random killings in the name of some dangerous fairytail and the ruin of every social standard you people knew
-people who could flee ANYWHERE ELSE but decide to be subhumans and fill rubber boats just to get free money at the end of the month that could drown.
How bad is the refugee problem that they can actually take it over?
Also a mass refugee crisis will possibly happen in the 2070's or so when global warming takes its toll on the middle east
Thomas Jones
Mangiando un fruttolo
Brandon Wright
fate schifo
Camden Allen
Why don't these so called refugees stay in Greece or Italy? Aren't these countries peaceful?
Hudson Hughes
>How bad is the refugee problem that they can actually take it over? To take over it will take a while, but have a look on the birth rates. Also there already are legit discussions over here to legalize underage marriages due to all the muslims married to like 14 year olds coming to Germany. With the "liberals" (who are actually causing an end of european liberal culture) we don't even need that many muslims. And don't get me wrong, I consider myself a liberal, but risking all liberal values isn't liberal at all and all those "Gutmenschen" (I don't like the word since it gets used much by real right wingers, but it describes it pretty good) have to stop.
>Also a mass refugee crisis will possibly happen in the 2070's or so when global warming takes its toll on the middle east And we have to handle this one as well. Borders are borders to get defended.
Elijah Ramirez
No refugeebux from the government to leech off.
Isaiah Thomas
>But what do you want to do if not let them in? let in LESS unless a whole continent is in famine, war or some other type of hell, there is no need for a nation to add enough refugees to represent 1% of their population, especially in such a short amount of time
Jeremiah James
$$$$$$
Andrew Morris
No gibsmedat in poor countries.
Nathan Robinson
>And what about the terrorists? First off, the majority of terrorists aren't refugees. Yeah, that's a huge problem. People are getting radicalised within the borders of European countries. You're letting in some more people that will birth terrorists, statistically speaking.
And you act like the only two options are let them die or let them in. You can much more efficiently allocate funds to aid people in nearby countries. Jordan is pulling so much weight and getting very little in return. Same with Lebanon. You're helping entitled middle class assholes and leaving the poor of damaged countries to rot. It's slimy, opportunistic behaviour that only causes harm, both long-term and short.
Hey, me and my 15 friends want ro move in either then. LET US IN YOU RACIST FUCK.
Jason Peterson
stai zitto
Julian Rivera
How common is athiesm/agnosticism in Germany? I've heard in some European countries they've been shutting down a bunch of old churches because of it. If this is rue, do you think people of the German masses will start converting to a religion like Islam since it will be the only prevalent one if there is no Christianity when a financial or domestic (like a food shortage) crisis hits Germany?
Sebastian Allen
We Iranians consider ourselves the descendents of the greatest dynasty that ever was.
No matter how much we hate the Islamic regime, the chance of us putting down our guns in front of an invading army is close to absolute zero.
Iraq was a made up country. It didn't exist before WWI. Iran has been here since 500BC when Median and Persian tribes united. Even after Arab invasion, we prevailed and kept our language and culture, even after they cut out the tongue of every Iranian who refused to speak Arabic. They did that for 100 years. Here we are 1600 years later still speaking Persian and even our old religions are making a comeback.
Ian Thomas
We've been shutting churches down too, friend.
Henry Reyes
>be proud iranian >live in germany/finland fuck off
Matthew Campbell
>tfw two million refugees will be staying in serbia VERY soon
Gabriel Lee
Salvini on the left but whiter
Nicholas Stewart
>In my opinion, you can't send them back or just let them die on their own, because that's not only cruel but also selfish as f***. Neighboring countries with similar cultures and education levels are where they would most easily assimilate too and where their children would have the best future.
Sending uneducated Somalis or fundamentalist Muslims to the West is setting them up to fail. The rest of the world should aid financially to urge the burden and militarily to quickly end conflicts instead letting them burn for years.
Furthermore, it should he the responsibility of the refugees to return to and rebuild their country and should be thankful to those who sheltered and aided them in their time of need and not expect the host country to shelter them forever.
Jason Reed
>falling for copypasta
Jayden Ortiz
>Furthermore, it should he the responsibility of the refugees to return to and rebuild their country and should be thankful to those who sheltered and aided them in their time of need and not expect the host country to shelter them forever. We should send them back now, most of them are ungrateful criminal scum, and Muslim on top of that
Henry Fisher
>implying a single human being will be living in the 2070s
Sebastian Collins
It is pretty common. Also there are many "christians" who are not really believing in it. Probably that's the case in many western countries. I am agnostic too btw., but I value modern christianity and reformatoric happenings.
But I don't think many people will convert to the islam. I mean, there are still christian and also strong believing christian groups left. Also, the people who are agnostic and atheist here are not agnostic because they don't like christianity, but because they are not religious and they won't convert. We still have to take the islam the chance to spread.
Eli Garcia
im not a nintendrone but a bit sad to see that hat becoming an icon of alt-right. replace it with a moeshit maga hat.
Julian Murphy
>But what do you want to do if not let them in? Not let them in..? I would rather kill them on sight than let them in. Shoot them as they try to cross the border, right in the head.
Carter Allen
>Finns are worse than Canadians now. What a weird world.
Joseph Ramirez
He's not Finnish, he's a cuck German who wants to ruin Europe as usual