What are the essential history / medieval kino (no fantasy)?

What are the essential history / medieval kino (no fantasy)?

There's braveheart, Henry V, and that's literally it. How come there are so few movies set in medieval europe?

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Not sure, but I'd bet we won't be seeing any for quite some time. A film with a majority white male cast? Never gonna happen these days.

I'm just sad the genre was never explorer properly. Lord of the rings came and then we suddenly started getting these D tier shitty Hollywood fantasy flicks. A well done film about the black plague or crusades would be great, or maybe a trilogy set during the war of the roses.

Theres a few tv series though. I'm not too familiar but pillars of the earth was pretty good

I've been meaning to watch vikings / spartacus / rome, I know it's not exactly medieval but still. Are they any good?

Vikings is badass for weird, simple reasons - i.e. the impeccable casting of different aged actors to play the same character over time, the blending of unexplained semi-paranormal things into a historically grounded setting and getting away with it well, season (even two) long cons that pay off with huge levels of satisfaction, that sort of thing.

Spartacus is porn and swords and awesome, low-budget 300 ripoffs. Not for everyone, but I love it.

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There are a lot.

>implying a majority white male cast is necessary to make a film set in medieval europe

I liked Spartacus. Lots of tits and gory sword fights.

Excalibur?

Kingdom of Heaven

I'm suprised how much old Bjorn looked like young Bjorn. How did they do that?Why couldn't they have stuck with one guy for mountain in GoT?

check out black death on netflix or torrent it

That movie is terrible

-In the name of the rose
-Andreii rublev
-marketa lazarova

Rome is wonderful, but the second season is a bit lower quality than the first (but still try it).

well, i disagree. it was a nice psychological horror.

Fuck you man, Carice and Sean Bean killed imo.

>That ending

Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut

Get a load of this pleb who's never heard of A Knight's Tale

None of those actually happened

he said no fantasy

Because it's so damn rushed everything actually dealing with Rome is alright but Egypt was so rushed but Marc Antony and Lucius scenes were GOAT in Egypt.

Seconding kingdom of heaven

the princess bride

costners' robin hood i guess

knights table for arthur bullshit

Game of thrones

Harlem Knight

OP SAID HISTORY (MEDIEVAL) AND SPECIFICALLY NO MADE UP STORIES

I meant kino. there are a lot of shitty medieval movies but truly good ones are very rare.

the physician

Rules are meant to be a broken so I'm going to say Conan the Barbarian and Conan the Destroyer(comfy as fuck with good music)

I haven't watched Ladyhawke and Legend are they any good?

Excalibur

I hope you don't mean the 2011 one

>A well done film about the black plague
Black Death is pretty decent. Sean Bean smashes it, as always.

Braveheart

>Tfw Mel is barely in anything these days and The Beaver barely gets acknowledgement

all are ranks are broke..

Fuck no man I meant governator for damn sure. Even has influence from Star Wars with Thulsa Doom in one scene.

I forgot about that film, heard was shit, don't know why. Rechecking scores it has decent scores in RT and metacritic, but a shit one in imdb, I guess I let it influence me.

Black Death

Fantastic movie. Probably one of the darkest of the genre too.

His death which really isn't a spoiler honestly hit me hard.

Is it worth watching him as Sharpe? I'm a fool for the Bean and I'm looking for stuff to watch.

The Lion in Winter
Andrei Rublev
For Love and Gold

Might have to watch that Hauer is pretty good and I'm looking for more JJL since I watched Hateful 8.

I liked 13th warrior too

The passion of Joan Of Arc was pretty damn good. I'm not sure what version I watched but the score was epic as fuck.

I highly recommend it. Don't expect to get fuzzy feelings out of it though.
It was directed by the guy who did Starship Troopers by the way, and was born out of his desire to make a realistic medieval movie that didn't portray their life as a fun and whimsical adventure.

Has anyone seen Giordano Bruno?
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I know he's not from the middle ages but he is an older historical figure, and a fascinating person.

To be honest I couldn't tell whether it was good or bad while watching it but in the end and looking back it was quite enjoyable. Something about the way it's shot feels a bit off, I think that's why some people find it difficult to engage in.

Bean and Nyman both give fantastic performances. Fuck Eddie Redmayne, though. He's got one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen.

The Vikings with Antonio Banderas?

Is Troy considered fantasy because that was some good shit imo.

>Tfw never get Bean as Odysseus again.

Bean could carry the fuck out of it.

I'll look it up, thanks user. Starship Troopers is so damn fun, wish there more like it but that might ruin it.

>His death which really isn't a spoiler honestly hit me hard.
Yeah, me too.

Haven't seen Sharpe. Everyone raves about it but I don't know, I've got a horrible feeling it's going to disappoint me.

ladyhawk
drgonheart

Two films that were ahead of their times

I completely wiped my brain of Dragonheart.

I haven't watched Ladyhawke is it worth watching?

I know it breaks the rule but it's out the window now so I say Highlander tv show & first movie, Army of Darkness and Xena because I love Lucy Lawless.

First Knight

I want this thread to stay alive.

WE

This or The Virgin Spring

The Lion In Winter
The Seventh Seal (it's not fantasy, Death is not literally there, it's a visualization of Block's internal struggle)
The Virgin Spring
A Knight's Tale (the musical parts are ofc unrealistic, but again it's not fantasy)
Andrei Rublev
Black Death
Raven trilogy (this one is fucking obscure if you want to sound patrish lel)
Robin Hood (Errol Flynn one)
The Name of the Rose
Passion of Joan of Arc
Trial of Joan of Arc (dir. Bresson)
The Messenger
Black Knight
El Cid
Macbeth (Polanski v. tho tbph the Fassbender one was good too)
Henry V (you forgot the Olivier one!)
Hamlet (Olivier, and Branaugh's epic one tho it does not actually have a medieval setting)
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
Romeo and Juliet (the 60s one)
Flesh and Blood
The Name of the Rose
Arn Knight Templar (not a movie though)
Kingdom of Heaven (dir. cut)
Man of La Mancha

>crusades

do your pleb self a favor and watch kingdom of heavens director cut right now

try Valhalla rising and aguirre, theyre surreal period movies but I wouldn't say fantasy

Does Shakespeare in Love count?

forgot to add, Hamlet is debatably fantasy but it is a debate which has made and unmade careers in academia so for our purposes it counts as non-fantasy and fantasy

>The Name of the Rose
This has pretty good atmosphere. The book is also good, with a lot of historical anecdotes

>medieval

That movie has nothing to do with historical reality. William Shakespeare could not, unaided, have produced the immortal writings bearing his name.

He did not possess the necessary literary culture, for the town of Stratford where he was reared contained no school capable of imparting the higher forms of learning reflected in the writings ascribed to him. His parents were illiterate, and in his early life he evinced a total disregard for study. There are in existence but six known examples of Shakspere's handwriting. All are signatures, and three of them are in his will. The scrawling, uncertain method of their execution stamps Shakspere as unfamiliar with the use of a pen, and it is obvious either that he copied a signature prepared for him or that his hand was guided while he wrote. No autograph manuscripts of the "Shakespearian" plays or sonnets have been discovered, nor is there even a tradition concerning them other than the fantastic and impossible statement appearing in the foreword of the Great Folio.

Shakspere's daughters were illiterate. His daughter Judith, at the age of 27, could not even sign her name.

If this guy wrote the plays bearing his name how would he have permitted his own daughter to reach womanhood and marry without being able to read one line of the writings that made her father wealthy and locally famous? It makes no sense.

The Decameron has been remade a number of times. It's early renaissance (black plague era) but you get the point.

Check it out.

Another obvious one is Robin Hood movies which are set in medieval England.

they're not medieval, but kenneth branagh hamlet is as good as his henry v. also Amadeus just because it's a good historical movie in general

the duelists is a good ridley scott film. a few centuries removed from medieval though

Black Knight as in Martin Lawrence? That's a comfy ass movie imo.

One of the best things to come out of Poland

Does Monty Python count?

I hate that ending because it ruins the whole setting.

The Decameron is interesting, as is Canterbery Tales (also by Pasolini)

>no Rob Roy

You people need to catch up on your Liam Neesons.

I hoped someone would catch that

It just made me think your list was to be a joke honestly

> tfw my last name is MacGregor
I'll do you proud Rob, I'll do you proud.

A part from the dream shit it's pretty top tier.

I think that and Blue Streak are some funny ads movies.

Robin Hood with Russel Crow is a fantastic fucking movie. I wish it got the love it deserved.

I fell for the meme, this movie is pure garbage. It's literally Gladiator with all of the fun and goodness sucked out of it.

This movie is criminally underrated

You're not a complex thinker

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Okay homo

Not to co-opt this thread, but this seems better than making my own.

What are some of the best historical drama TV shows? Preferably nothing set post-1900, with stuff from classical antiquity taking highest priority.

Shows I've seen already:
>Rome
>Deadwood
>Marco Polo
>Vikings
>Turn: Washington's Spies
>The Borgias
>Borgia: Faith and Fear (Way fucking better than The Borgias)

I'm sure there's more I can't remember presently.

More Hauer

The Mill and the Cross

Tried The Tudors yet? All your missing.

Actually haven't seen that one yet. I'll check it out, thanks.

I forgot Spartacus and The Last Kingdom in this list, before anyone suggests them.

wolf hall

>When between shooting the cast went skinny dipping in the freezing cold lake. Liam Neeson, who famously has been quoted as having a cock the size of 'an Evian bottle', exited the lake to find his co-stars staring open mouthed at his massive penis, joking, "What, does yours shrink in cold water too?"

Witty bastard.

Would you take one thing show after 1900?

Bates Motel is top tier so break your one rule.

Wasn't so much a rule as a preference, and I have been meaning to watch that. I'll check it out after The Tudors and Wolf Hall.

Mostly takes place in not-Europe.

Yeah you've got a year until next season and 5 will be GOAT. Check out the Americans it follows 80's cold war Russian "spies", if you heard of that semen demon awhile back named Anna Chapman who was deported for espionage you'll enjoy it.

Ever sex scene in this movie was consensual.

I haven't watched anything made before the nineties: the thread.

How is that in any way witty?

In terms of television, the 90's were when things actually started to get good.

>knights table for arthur bullshit
wat

OP literally mentions two films.

medieval kino was all over the place until the 70s where the stage-acting conventions it used on got supplanted by method acting and docu-realism.

try charlton heston in The War Lord. Norman knight tries to repel an invasion on Frisians into a remote part of Normandy in the early 12th century. They got the costumes right and the plot is halfway decent. Good production value for the era, too.

paul verhoeven owns