What is some punk rock that is relevant to the seismic cultural shifts of the modern 21C?

What is some punk rock that is relevant to the seismic cultural shifts of the modern 21C?

Dadrock like Dead Kennedys and Black Flag need not apply

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The Shape of Punk to Come you retard

Hopsin and Nirvana

>Writes for Infowars
Opinion Disregarded.

Do people unironically believe pic related?

>the modern 21C
What did he mean by this?

Young conservatives with a vague understanding of punk. No one else though.

Aryan Terrorism.

this

Only 120 IQs and above. None below, I've noticed

Surely, conservatism was always punk rock? I mean, they were trying to bring music back to how it was before the hippies got to it and they hated government and wanted anarchy and so forth.

Post-punk was the left response to punk rock, taking the energy of punk and putting it toward more progressive ideals.

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someone link him to this thread so he can recommend some alt-right punk

real punks kill themselves
best way of saying fuck you to society

I understand criticizing Obama's Presidency and the Democratic Party in general and I also understand criticizing identity politics but I don't see why the fuck people who do this so often default to labeling themselves Right Wingers and sucking reactionary dick

Do they literally not understand that you can criticize liberalism without being a conservative or reactionary?

Pretty dumb. I do agree that younger people that are conservative are ostracised in general though, namely in high school and college, but to say that there's some wider cultural thing is just dumb.

underages who think "counter-culture" just means "unpopular opinion among their peers"

>Surely,

>conservatism is the new punk rock

lol nah. nice try fag.

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anarchy is inherently left

Socialism can't work without coercion

>what is anarcho-capitalism

Because America is propped up on two party tribalism, so people who dislike identity politics default to the right wing even if they don't fully understand the larger package that comes with it.

Or if you're talking Sup Forumsack alt-righters, it's because they discovered politics two years because they were mad about video games and six months later decided they were experts on race science, in other words they're retarded.

an incredibly dumb ideology

Not anarchism
>b-b-but it's right there in the name
Kill yourself

the answer is "gay and retarded"

>Punk Rock
>Funk Rock
>Funk Rack
>Funk Rakz
>Funk Razz
>Funk Jazz

HERBIE TIME!!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=faGfolLT8Dk

jesus christ

Anarchism is leftist. Anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron.
Off yourself if you disagree with this objective fact.

>traditionalist ideology is punk
Mainstream meteor man does it again.
God's work, my man.

I admire your dedication Herieanon

I personally don't think that, because it sounds so cringy, but it kinda makes sense. If punk means to go against the mainstream, or whatever most people around you seem to agree on, then going conservative when everyone else is a liberal would be punk. Doesn't mean that "the new punk" HAS to be conservative, just that it would be a "punk" thing to do if you went against established morals and values.

>Anarcho-capitalism won't inevitably turn into a minarchist system anyone
What's it like being diagnosably retarded?

a contradiction in terms

youtube.com/watch?v=NajQTN9qhXg

What do you mean by this? Examples?

The Paris Commune, Anarchist Catalonia, the Zapatistas, the current state of Rojava, and older organizations like the IWW were all libertarian in principle yet also anti-capitalist. If all socialism is fundamentally coercive why do they praise the opposite?

Punk was always shit

TYBH

>anarchism won't
wew

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Kek. Has no idea where punk came from at all

what, back to even more established morals and values
makes perfect sense, if you're a fucking retard

tbf it did come from a bunch of fashion students

>pinpointing where punk started
haha wut?

>Conservatism is the new punk rock.

>Deal with it.

The kind of guy who would arrogantly tweet this at his age you can tell very badly wanted to be cool his entire life but wasn't.

Personally I support Trump, but everything about this guy is lame as fuck.

HEAR YE HEAR YE!
THE OFFICIAL HERBIEANON'S RANKINGS.

This is subjectively true because people who assume their taste is objective are kinda pretentious assholes.

ok calm down hebdige

tbf you are a faggot

A new paradigm shift is coming, but its not punk rock. Punk rock as anything socially meaningful died ages ago and will remain nothing more than another form of dadrock.

Perpetual rebellion will become outdated as a thing and thus the only thing left is to come full circle and embrace traditionalism.

I'm a part of what some people call the "alt-right" and it feels punk as fuck. It feels like an actual counter culture, or rebellion against the PC culture that dominates American colleges.

Not at all, history repeats itself over and over again. Every innovation is built upon the foundation of the previous one. Let's say a bunch of conservative punk groups started to pop up, what do you think they would sing about? They wouldn't be singing about degeneracy or not fucking before you're married because that's stupid. They would be critisizing identity politics, or the hypocrisies of liberals or more libertarian ideas. They would talk about how everyone is trying to censor everyone, how you're not allowed to say certain things. The values and morals that were established before are now forgotten or seen as wrong, which is why if they were to be brought back they wouldn't be the same and therefore no longer established because it wouldn't make sense for someone to bring up old ideas that no one cares about anymore.

literally entered this thread to read this

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how punk

>history repeats itself over and over again. Every innovation is built upon the foundation of the previous one

not the same thing

nice try but this thread is relevant to music

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punk is culture, not music

>hebdige
>herbdige
>herbige
>Herbie

I COULDN'T AGREE MORE IF I TRIED!
youtube.com/watch?v=wsg-BAIwpnQ

He's definitely not as lame as you. Some faggot posting on an image board

Varg is basically an anarcho-primitivist that has lots if nazi beliefs, so were the fuck would he really be placed on the authoritarian/libertarian scale? Since he believes a mixture of a really authoritarian belief and an anarchist one.

er...

>Ramones
>right libertarian
Nope.

okay i take it back he is very very punk rock

pls delet this

>conservative
>punk

Pick one.

God that's cringe as fuck.

Alright, I've been wondering: how exactly do you choose what your trip will say?

>(((unger-weiss)))

like clockwork

conservatism is the new establishment
fuckem

Does it really matter? Punk rock is for spoiled kids who hate their parents.

if i see him

use a tripcode generator and cross your fingers

This guy would shit his pants at a punk riot.
Poseur if I ever saw one.

How could alt-right fags criticize identity politics when that entire movement is founded upon white identity politics

I'm 25

Yes there is a very real sense in which conservatism is the new counter culture

So many trendy cunts think they're really trendy for being liberal. No, liberalism is fucking dead. It's a hypocritical, head-up-the-arse ideology that doesn't make sense anymore.

I'm not saying you should be a white nationalist - you probably shouldn't - but CONSERVATISM, I think, is the ideology of the future.

Get with the times.

Tybh

Literally all punks are poseurs. The movement is centered around image and posturing

>Still needing politics.

Lol.

do you seriously see political views as a fucking fashion statement?
you're pathetic

>traditional values
>the future

Nazi fags are confused as fuck and feeding off of their own circle jerk.

>republican house
>republican senate
>republican president

truly the counterculture

>conservatism is the new establishment

Both yes and no, erring more on the side of "no" currently.

Trump is in office but he is a classical liberal (I fully expect most user reading this to get mad at that statement because they have no concept of what liberalism actually is, they only know a crazy neoliberal iteration, but Pence is most definitely conservative.

Still, the main control of the narrative is till being done by the media and that is heavily liberal bias. Which is why antifa are being dealt with kids gloves by the media right now. They are Soros-fuinded and he holds sway of the media. It's also why Trump is basically communicating with the people through Twitter and nothing else: every other option would go out of their way to fuck with him.

Not only is conservatism not the new establishment right now but it is so crazily stacked the other way that the current POTUS is talking to his countrymen through Twitter because of a lack of fair options. That's how crazy it is.

>still board policing like a youngfag

Lol.

Republican voters are the cultural and demographic minority in the United States. The majority just happens to be extremely lazy and dumb

I'm not saying you have to be alt-right to criticize identity politics either, i'm saying that if you want to be subversive then that's what you should attack. What an alt-righter would say though is that white people are always the victims of identity politics, what i would say is that identity politics should be removed entirely and people should be judged by merit and not what the color of their skin is.

ok

>formatting like a fucking rebbitfag
>hating on ascended herbieanon
kill self

I love you so much.

These punks are literally posing in this photograph. They are affecting an image like little fashion models

>still complaining about it

Lol.

>runs the presidency
>runs the house of representatives and has for the last six years
>runs the senate and has for the last six years
>has held a majority in the supreme court for the last sixty years
>has held a majority of state and local governments since the founding of the United States

STICK IT TO THE MAN, CONSERVATIVES

YOU'RE SO BALLSY AND OUTNUMBERED

HOW WILL YOU POSSIBLY PREVAIL

This talking point has been acknowledged and refuted already. Please make sure to read threads BEFORE replying, not after

gallup.com/poll/180452/liberals-record-trail-conservatives.aspx

sorry, this is more recent

gallup.com/poll/188129/conservatives-hang-ideology-lead-thread.aspx

Yeah man.

The president is really fighting the good fight! He over through the system!

So you're the punks because you're a powerful minority who tells everyone what to do and enforces your way of life on the majority whether they like it or not.

HELL YEAH SO FUCKING PUNK

Also I said it better than that guy, so suck my ass.

how old is pjw?

>Or if you're talking Sup Forumsack alt-righters, it's because they discovered politics two years >
>because they were mad about video games and six months later decided they were experts on race science, in other words they're retarded.

that...just about sums it up yeah. Seems like teens sometimes default to railing against whatever the establishment was when they were in high school.

>this is more recent
And still outdated. And still deliberately oversampling conservatives. And still produced by an organization of progressive extremists. How many people under 60 even own a landline telephone?

14, maybe 15

>refuted
there's literally a poll showing more people identify as conservative than liberal

the reality is you've conflated the opinions of a vocal minority of college social justice activists and journalists with the views of the majority.