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What did they mean by this?
>printing another man's face on your body
absolute cuck
Che wasn't a man.. He was an idea. A revolution. Read a book.
They're just rich assholes who have no idea about anything real life, so why not follow the buzz and just walk with it.
he was a delusional terrorist just like Khalid al-Mihdhar or any other islamic retard.
He was a murderer and a terrorist.
>Che wasn't a man.. He was an idea. A revolution.
>this post
>this flag
>those trips
Fuck off, Justin.
that only dimwits fall for the communism meme
He achieved plenty of what he proposed to achieve, from being a doctor to freeing cuba using an amateur army of a few men. Nothing delusional about him, monkey
>freeing cuba
>taking an ailing country from a dictator and giving him to an even worse one
t. partidario de Podemos
He freed Cuba so hard that people were building boats out of garbage to escape that free paradise
>podemos
kek you don't have to vote those retards to respect history. What guevara did during his life was nothing short of amazing, if you weren't a partisan retard you'd be able to respect it too
Abu Muslim al-Turkmani achieved plenty of what he proposed to achieve, from being a pleb to freeing iraq using an armateur army of few men. Nothing delusional about him, moor. What Al-Turkmani did during his life was nothing short of amazing, if you weren't a partisan retard you'd be able to respect it too.
ITT; desperate right wingers
socialism is evil eh?
AMERICA DESERVES TRUMP, LIQUIDATE YOU SIMPLETONS
t. country not ruined by socialism
>get Maori face tat
>banned from entering New Zealand
KEK
Conrad,
Stop.
>b-but he was BRAVE and defended an IDEA
so do Islamic terrorists
his idea was shit, so shit that you have to make it illegal to LEAVE the country where it is implemented.
>T. Another partisan retard that is clueless about history, how things were before guevara, his work there and why did it all go to shit once cuba was 'freed' and fidel got in control
You need to separate from your political views to make an objective analysis of the actions of guevara, and reading a few books wouldn't hurt either
If you had an ounce of his determination and balls your life wouldn't be the mind numbing shit it's going to be for the next 70 years. Only for that guevara deserves respect from any modern 'man' that spends his days shitposting on the internets
>Abu Muslim al-Turkmani
God damn Muslims have awful names
ok
Todd
message received,
Chad
loud and clear,
Chastity/Hope
de tu querida presenciaaaaaaaa comandante Che Guevaraaaaaaaaaaaaa
got ya
mohammad
got it
john
le sheeple amirite
That retarded response took you longer than usual, no?
Again, people who can't believe that others can possibly stand up for peoples of other cultures.
sure thing
abdullah
I even stand up for you,
Brock.
I'm probably paler than you two put together,
but keep trying.
SOCIALISM BAD, MUSLIM BAD
please delet these posts
Tell me a socialist country that truly thrived and gave its population everything it promised.
>Khalid al-Mihdhar
who ?
kek
>socialist country
That's where your confusion starts, a single "socialist" country will never work, it's a global system
Imagine 98% of the world being communist and 2 countries being capitalist, would you think the capitalist ones would work?
In all honesty I don't even believe in a pure socialism, it's a balance, but this 'any socialism bad' line really lets people down who need the help.
>there are people who still buy the US propaganda of muh evil dictators for Che and Castro
top fucking lel
>Imagine 98% of the world being communist and 2 countries being capitalist, would you think the capitalist ones would work
No, they'd get ruined by overpopulation after 5 billion people escape from their communist heaven
>magine 98% of the world being communist and 2 countries being capitalist
WOuld you think the communist ones would work?
Cuba has objectively a higher life quality than Poland, what the fuck are you talking about?
All I know is that the capitalist one doesn't work, when you see how poor Africa (or even some parts of your very country) is you should feel that we need a change
That's some hypothetical you've cooked up there,
Rafal.
this.
Cuba have homicide rates lower than any other country in the area while they have scolarization higher.
it surely has problems like every country but compare it to El Salvador or Jamaica where you cannot walk without being shot.
Pure forms are dangerous, if you're talking capitalism or socialism.
sub-Saharan Africa quadrupled their population in 50 years.
>Cuba has objectively a higher life quality than Poland, what the fuck are you talking about?
Name the objective metrics that you used to arrive at this conclusion.
>All I know is that the capitalist one doesn't work, when you see how poor Africa
you're so retarded it hurts to read
Cuba has better standard of living, better literacy rates, lower infant mortality rates than Brazil despite being embargoed by the US, the absolute overlord of the area for decades
if you want to argue about communism not working, you have plenty of examples, but using Cuba is just incorrect, just look at any other caribbean nation and see how Cuba compares, than tell me how bad communism was for them
What are you trying to imply with that?
Pure forms are not the problem, the problem is when the powered is centered in few people, you depend on the mood of a couple guys
In a pure, well bourocratised socialism that wouldn't happen
What hypothetical? There has been mass emmigration from almost any country that tried real socialism/communism. To the point where those countries had to make it illegal to leave on your own volition.
>tried real socialism/communism
That hasn't happened
Not a single developed post-industrial coutnry has tried it, ergo, not the real form of communism. Before you say Russia, they were feudal as fuck before the revolution
If its so good, why people keep running away from that place?
Brazil embargoes itself with absurd protectionism and import taxes.
1. A huge majority of them stay
2. Some leave to see their family in the USA
3. Some of them are actual bad people
4. They can move freely, the boats meme has been dead for years
>My ancestors adopted protestant work ethics, capitalism and Liberty all without a bloody revolution
>""""""alt"""" """"""right"""" Sup Forums shills claiming this man was a murderer while giving Hitler a rimjob
A truely productive, co-operative world would have to acknowledge some points of capitalism. People like to own things as Frank Zappa said, it's just to what degree should they be allowed to own, that's where the socialism comes in, to regulate properly.
I do agree that centralized power is a problem,
and I think centralisation is more to do with pure forms than capitalists.
As someone wise once said:
If you're right before 30, you have no heart.
If you're left after 30, you have no brain.
>4. They can move freely
topkek
only for 6 months Cubans were allowed to leave their island-prison. 125 thousand sailed away, and Castro had to revoke the decision and close his prison-country again.
>If you're right before 30
what did he mean by this?
what did he mean by this?
That's because a developed post-industrial country does not need to try it. The only countries to ever adopt socialism have been either poor countries or dictarships
>Idolizing a terrorist
You're beyond saving muhammad
Like all kids he was a dweeb in his teens.
Che pushed for racially integrating the schools in Cuba, years before they were racially integrated in the Southern United States. Don't need to be a fan, just a little bit skeptical about quotes posted on Sup Forums.
Hitler had a fascinating life. Do you idolise him?
THIS
Stg Sup Forums gtfo to your containment board.
It's an actual quote of Guevara, it's just out of context
He was explaining the situation in Cuba, he was just saying blacks needed more help than whites
>Name the objective metrics that you used to arrive at this conclusion.
Still waiting for those metrics btw
because they have the US at their doorstep?
every single country in the region has a major exodus towards the US, it has nothing to do with communism
>people prefer to leave a communist country to go to a capitalist country
>it has nothing to do with communism
Absolute madman tattooed in GOATS.
ITT: People that STILL believe in commie fairy tales. That's alright user, never give up on your dreams :^)
I think it was in Venezuela, but yeah, it was out of context, and he was visiting a slum. He later retracted on his statement
"terrorist" is a meme word
guerrilla isn't terrorism, revolutionary trials aren't terrorism
burning people alive in the streets, burying women and children alive and bombing civilians is terrorism
The only people I've heard saying that in real life where never left wing
You don't become a bad person after having kids
Anyone that has actually read a fucking book in their life would know how great of a man Che was.
Also r8 my tat.
goodreads.com
But why do people want to move to the US? Because they are rich, how did they become rich? What economic system do they have? What economic system has EVERY SINGLE rich country adopted (Including China in recent years)
How did the green 'capitalist' revolution go for you?
Have a you
Because capitalism is a perfect system, right?
No, it's just a better system than both communism and socialism
>From 2003, Chavez set strict price controls on food, and these price controls caused shortages and hoarding.[59] In January 2008, Chavez ordered the military to seize 750 tons of food that sellers were illegally trying to smuggle across the border to sell for higher prices than what was legal in Venezuela.[60] In February 2009, Chavez ordered the military to temporarily seize control of all the rice processing plants in the country and force them to produce at full capacity, which he claimed they had been avoiding in response to the price caps.[61] In May 2010, Chavez ordered the military to seize 120 tons of food from Empresas Polar.[62] In March 2009, Chavez set minimum production quotas for 12 basic foods that were subject to price controls, including white rice, cooking oil, coffee, sugar, powdered milk, cheese, and tomato sauce. Business leaders and food producers claimed that the government was forcing them to produce this food at a loss.[63] Chávez nationalized many large farms. Chávez said of the farmland, "The land is not private. It is the property of the state." Some of the farmland that had been productive while under private ownership is now idle under government ownership, and some of the farm equipment sits gathering dust. As a result, food production fell substantially. One farmer, referring to the government officials overseeing the land redistribution, stated, "These people know nothing about agriculture."[64] Chávez seized many supermarkets from their owners. Under government ownership, the shelves in these supermarkets are often empty.[65]
you seriously can't understand the substancial difference in economic power between an embargoed country and the biggest superpower in the world?
Comparing Chavez and Che
Shig
Is his head coming out of a bed of cabbage?
Faith restored. Thank you based Italy
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the URSS became rich and powerful thanks to Stalin
not defending good ol' Joseph, i'm just saying
How's Chávez related to this discussion?
It's good for you because you are the slavists, tell capitalism is good to kids in South Sudan
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Why do they run from Mexico? It must be that damn mexican comunism
>the URSS became rich and powerful thanks to Stalin
The country was rich, the people were not (only the ones in the party or related to them).
>tell capitalism is good to kids in South Sudan
A system being good doesn't mean that everyone is going to be rich and happy. Poverty worldwide has been MASSIVELY downscaled ever since the majority of the world adopted a capitalistic economic system.
Powerful, not rich.
An average soviet citizen was much worse off than an average westerner. Eastern Europe is still recovering
>"terrorism" is a meme word
>burning people alive in the streets isn't terrorism, burying women and children alive and bombing civilians aren't terrorism
>guerrilla and revolutionary trials is terrorism
see. I can do it too
>Poverty worldwide has been MASSIVELY downscaled
The same happened in socialist countries
aahahahahahahahaha
> if you want to argue about communism not working, you have plenty of examples, but using Cuba is just incorrect
You just forgot about all the cubans that fled to the states and those still stuck in cuba living under the most restrictive of lifestyles with no freedom of movement or making a better living for themselves other than the one the commie pigs force on them with the threat of death
That guy looks American
yes, they downscaled poverty by letting the poor starve to death (7 million ukrainians, tens of millions of chinese, 3 millions cambodians)
This
i though we were talking countries
anyway the people might not have been rich, but they didn't starve either
still an upgrade from Tsarism