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How likely is it for the USA to actually go to war with Russia?

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If you think we aren't already actively engaging them in Syria, you're a fool.

Not likely at all.

Depends on our election. With Clinton in the white house, it's a certainty. She's openly aggressive against both Russia and Syria, and all of her positions in regards to both will do nothing but make our relations more hostile. With a Trump presidency, Putin is likely to become more aggressive and push the limits of what he can get away with, all the while making Trump believe they're buddies. Russia will eventually annex another country or invade Norway or some shit, and at that point it'll be another proxy way at least, while full-out war may be avoided in that case.

Either way, it's a good time to start stocking up supplies, such as water purification, potassium iodide, and food / medicines you may need. These are not good times.

If the US keeps going down the same path then probably very likely unfortunately.

Probably a 40% chance.

Won't happen unless someone does something stupid and neither side can afford to look weak. Like WW I started with the asassination of prince Ferdinand. Shit like that can start the fire. But in general nobody is looking forward to nuclear war.

Without proper analysis of any real intelligence, I would say highly unlikely.

>Once they take out ISIS in Syria and pull out we DAMNED well might send troops to remove Assad though. Why not let them do our light work.

0/10 we cant staff the war were in now

Do you really think Russia is going to pull out of Syria, now that they're there? Assad knows the US is trying to topple his regime, and Assad / Putin both do not want that very much. Russia is going to be in Syria as long as they think we're a threat to the stability of Assad's government.

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US will just continue to pay/arm rebels and militias, US wont have any large scale direct action

what makes you think Putin is aggressive? Because he fights ISIS? Because your media is telling you?

I'm okay with that too, as long as they end their little war sooner than later. It's Syria, Russia can have it, along with all the other rag tag little shitstains of countries nobody cares about.

dont forget Iran

>Crimea

we are going to war... the armament of rebels and national false flags are stall tactics and smoke and mirrors for the big one to come. its inevitable. accept this

in all reality, a large russian presence in the middle east will just add more stability

How exactly is a country with a shit tier economy able to finance the whole middle east?

Russia is not any kind of threat to the United States any more than North Korea and we all raugh r rasses roff rat rem. I also think if Trump gets elected Jullian Assange will be pardoned. There's just no real threats, that mobilizing our killer robot army couldn't handle. If Putin SERIOUSLY became a problem he'd get a pollonium pellet in the leg on his horseback adventures.

US has been doing it for decades, no reason russia cant get in on the action

Crimea has a 80% russian population. They democraticly elected a president who was then ousted by a mob. This was supported by USA and EU. George Soros had put in great efforts to stir the uprising. Victoria Nuland has admitted that the US has invested 5 billion $ to overthrow Janucowitsch. McCain, Nuland, Clinton and others have activly supported the coup.
The people of crimea do not want to be part of that shithole Ukraine anymore (most of them at least).

You do know how shit Russia's economy is? How they aren't in the Top 12 economies anymore? That fucking South Korea's economy is stronger?

Seriously, annexing parts of a country is a perfect example of agressive expansion.

Crimea river faggot.

American armed forces are weak and no match for the macho men of Russia.

war and conflict is good for their economy. Being more active in the middle east is both an economic and strategic asset for russia

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No, overthrowing governments is. Meddling is. The people of crimea want to be part of russia. Do you want to force them to be ukrainians? Even US surveys found that the crimeans want to be russian.

As an American I have tremendous respect for any people that were ingenious enough to ferment and distill potato alcohol and I drink my Stolichnaya room temp straight up.

Didn't they moved parts of their army out of Syria because they couldn't pay for it anymore?

hillary wants to start ww3 she already said it, go hillary, she gunna take down russia,china and iran go hillary

If Hilldabeast wins it's imminent

Repost this after the election. If HRC wins, it's more likely.

>Do you want to force them to be ukrainians?
I live in Europe and I don't fucking want any border changes. No bigger Russia, no bigger Germany, etc. If they wanted to be happy in Russia, they are allowed to move there, doesn't excuse taking something from your "brother country".
Following this logic the Turks in Germany or Arabs in France could transform parts of these countries.

usa 2016

depends what propaganda you want to believe

As Likely as Ellen degeneres clit playing with dick

Delusional. They would bathe in American blood

they did move out parts of their army. Why exactly when they didn't achieve anything they wanted?

Depends if Shillary wins. She would plundge Earth into a nuclear war.

I bet you spend a lot of time on Sup Forums

German survey institut found 93% of crimeans are glad to be russian now.
US survey institut PEW claimed they could not conduct a proper survey but from the data they had they estimated 80 - 90 % wanted to remain russian.
The 'annexion' is propaganda.

Using special forces to train opposing forces, and maybe shooting at non-uniformed guys you don't really know who they are but they are shooting back - is very different from what would happen if Russian and American tank companies were battling eachother and 5th generation fighters were tangling overhead.

It is still a proxy war, neither side has equipped it's fighters with scud missile launchers or any truly heavy weapons.
Russia has been playing its cards for a while now and pushing american interests back. Assad is still in power. They aren't at war but the united states is losing the peace so a conflict seems very likely.

My friend says that we would get our ass handed to us if Russia, China or a combine forces of them were to invade us or start a war with us. Is that true, is the US really that weak? He said we haven't won a fucking war since before Vietnam.

How true is that? Are we really that weak?

Are you telling me the people should not decide what their identity is? What kind of dictatorship mindset is that?
If there are 80% turkish people in Germany and then the Kanzler they elect gets overthrown with outside support (including nazis) then the turks will take over. They are 80% (not in reality but in your example)

you should become an infowars team member and distributor you conspiracy cuck

Putin is an obvious sociopath. FFS he's the most obvious sociopath ever. It's so clear that he feels no emotions and no empathy and only cares about his own power.

>I live in Europe and I don't fucking want any border changes
There was yugoslavia. Nato bombed it away after CIA and Soros had done their job of causing unrest. Russia protested. But Nato wanted control and didn't give a fuck about borders.

Is that an argument or did you just listen to mainstream media? Have you ever wondered why there are always evil guys out there to fight? It's like in '1984', always changing enemies you love to hate. Good doggy!

>He said we haven't won a fucking war since before Vietnam.
we won the 1st gulf war,and the iraq war, your friend is stoopid

and theres millions of gun owners in america, nobody will invade our homeland without massive casualties

>t's so clear that he feels no emotions and no empathy and only cares about his own power.
What makes a person utter such nonsense? Are you emotionally attached to your propaganda?

its not likely. war WILL mean total and utter devastation of the world and everyone knows that.it'll blow over or we will all die. can happen but is unlikely, not impossible but unlikely.

Dude, I live in Norway and I love Russia and Putin 1000 times more than Usa. Your government has no respect for other countries and are trying to scare people into believing that Russia is the enemy. USA IS THE ENEMY!! You will always be.Not the people. But the corrupt Zionist government.

"Yugoslavs" dont need Soros or Cia to make them fight eachother

Very likely if Hilary is elected.
Hillary wants to set up no fly zones in Iraq, to do so requires going to war with them and Russia.

I hope Russia invades you for atleast 50 years because you and any Russian loving faggot deserve it, this is from someone who lived in Eastern Europe and hopes to never return there.

Nope

>no one would want to fight in an apocalyptic war
>anybody trying to start a nuclear war or launch nuclear weapons would probably get assassinated
>no country could afford to take part in a third world war
>nobody would side with either country, china sticks to its own shit and eurocucks don't care enough to back the americans
>the war would be impossible to fight because neither one could successfully invade each other
>due to extensive defence systems, using icbm or other kinds of missiles would be pointless because they'd get shot down
>nothing would actually be gained from winning the war, apart from a sense of dominance, meaning the war would objectively pointless

If it did happen

>china sides with the states because their economies are co-dependent
>other countries refuse to trade with russia in order to cripple their shitty economy
>soviet-era toy rockets get shot down by superior yank missile defence system fuelled by mountain dew
>if the russians successfully land, the millions of gun owners make it hell for their forces to advance successfully through most places
>this war would be fought completely unconventionally making it harder to win or even partake in
>civilian death toll is largest ever for a war
>hopefully, zack snyder gets killed
>fuck zack snyder

It won't happen, it's an edgelord fantasy.

Although I generally agree and I am appaled by US foreign policy I do believe that this might change soon. The US empire is slowly crumbling and even our most submissive governments will wake up to the fact.
US is no worse than anybody else. They are just more powerful. But with their power waning they soon will be just one of the big guys.

Why do you think Russia's annexation of Crimea wasn't aggressive? Because of what RT is telling you?

>"Yugoslavs" dont need Soros or Cia to make them fight eachother
Maybe. There certainly was tension all along. But both CIA and Soros were there in the 90s. The latter's involvement has just been revealed in the leaks. Media strategies to liberate economies or so he calls it. Buying journalists and lobbyists and influence to critisize the government, undermining it's stability. Small countries don't stand a chance.

>you are not allowed to criticize your government
Putin taught you well

Very unlikely.

no, I don't watch RT, never did.
but this:
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What the fuck user, are you on crack ?

If you don't go to war with Russia, you go to war with China.
If neither candidate takes the cake, well, you go to war against yourselves and get fucked by both.

If Hilldog gets elected, declares a no fly zone in Syria and shoots their jets down its a distinct possibility.

Even short of that a new cold war with the Ruskies can't do us any good.

>you go to war against yourselves
that might actually happen.

Unlikely.
Head-on conflict will escalate into nuclear war, and nobody wants that.
Neither superpower can control the rest of the world, because you need strong economy to do it. USA can probably succeed, but it's a very long process.

Your friend is an idiot. The Russian economy is garbage, and their military spending is 1/10th of the United States right now. The United States military may have a number of flaws, but in size and power it dwarfs any other military on the planet at the moment. Your friend is stupid.

Hillary clinton or Trumpy - what next Caitlyn jenner runs for president

no wonder huge christian country just left usa

usa is a down syndrone kid these days, hey even have femdons in charge of their country.

usa winning the fight LMAO fight for what ?? gay rights ?? USA is EVIL and should be destroyed by JESUS. best regards Phillipines. Obama is a son of a whore, hillary is a snake

Trump 0% war

Hillary 100% war

This

Buckle Up Buckaroo.

Considering Russia and Mexico are in a virtual tie for 14th overall GDP, I'd say not very likely.

Not likely at all. The children crying about "muh no-fly zone" obviously didn't live through the cold war. This is nothing.

Nobody will invade USA.
USA military is superior by a large margin to everyone else. But it is also a bit exhausted through decades of war in too many spots.
Anyway in a confrontation with russia it might go nuclear, even if nobody wants it. And then it doesn't matter who has better military.

>This is nothing
yeah russia stating that they'll attack if hillary gets in office is nothing

this is fucking something, don't act superior because you lived through the missile crisis

So while you guys squabble over political beliefs like old women who try to convince one another wich church is the best, can someone tell me where to find the best, reliable and affordable gass masks out there? What else should we get for nuclear fallout? It's inevitable now, and its stupid to think no one will need protection from radiation.

And murica won't invade Russia either because they know that they would be humiliated

user, would you really want to live through a nuclear fallout? You wouldn't rather just..die instantly? and not suffer or see those around you die?

"Russia" didn't say that at all. That's like saying Glenn Beck speaks for the US. Stop spreading fear and misinformation, dipshit.

> tinfoil hat

>And murica won't invade Russia either because they know that they would be humiliated
Yup, some people tried that and got a bloody nose.

whether or not Russia said it, hillary instigated with the four-minute remark about presidential orders. if she didn't have plans to go to war, she wouldn't be so instigating and aggressive over such sensitive topics

>we will treat cyber attacks like any other attacks
be prepared to fight the entire fucking world then you moron

>if she didn't have plans to go to war, she wouldn't be so instigating and aggressive
I dislike her as much as anyone, but it is election season and candidates say whatever they believe will get them votes.

>in regards
Pseudo intellectuals always out themselves with that blunder.

who wins fight ???

usa vs Russia & China

China would slaughter all them sick and twisted gay loving christians.
LOL usa is the joke of the world,

I love hearing them fight over two gay loving people. usa should be bombed by rest of the world. I would join tomorrow to get rid of usa. love Phillipines, We are REAL Christians, you have your gays and we laugh at you sick peoples

No one is going to fight a physical war over some hacked computers, you absolute retard.

there is no more unnessesary war´s with TRUMP.

I would like to ask if there is a war wich countrys would be the most effected? Im from slovenia btw it is a slavic country and should i stock up on supplies?

I never claimed nor said I would like to live in a fallout environment, but with the recent events and Satan 2 on everyone's mind. It wouldn't make sense not to take precautions incase a blast doesn't hit your home. Why not try to survive?

i expect it will culimate in a bunch more piddly little skirmishes where russia puts a skeleton crew into a third world shithole to back one side, and the americans deploy tens of thousands of troops to back the other side. lots of viet nams.

i'd like to think that by now everyone understands that a nuclear assault will result in a chain reaction as every country with a nuclear stockpile just starts shooting until hundreds of millions of people are dead and the world becomes borderline uninhabitable. Even the most sociopathic political leaders know that's fucked up.

so yeah, I wouldnt be surprised if we start hearing a bunch of new threats of nuclear combat and see lots of prickwaving skirmishes for the next 20 years. Thanks Putin, thanks Trump/Clinton.

And yes, they would both be just as apt to take the bait.

>trump becomes president
>deploys troops to any place that calls him a loser or says something mean about him
>every war is now necessary

Hello, yes, I frequent Sup Forums and Sup Forums and I'm also a history autist, but I'm also slightly drunk, so pardon my grammar fuck ups
Historically, especially since the fall of the soviet union, Russia has been trying to find it's place on the world. It still has important power projection capabilities that uses every once in a while. You can usually find news about a russian air force Tu-95 caught flying over some random european country with its transponder on every 6 months for the last twenty years.
That being said, most russian anons both here and on their russian chan seem to be either quite "enlightened" or outright putin bots. The enlightened ones will every once in a while explain that Russia has tried to be close to the west ten years ago, but instead of the US welcoming the russian bear into its arms, they've (mostly high level politicians, DoD and Pentagon) pushed for proxy wars, lobbying and funding against pro-russian rebel groups.
Not necesarily to fuck the Ruskies, but because the pro-russian rebels often threaten US interests regarding the petro dollar status quo, especially since Russia is a major petrol exporter.
Overall, Russia seems to prefer to be left alone, and a buffer, non-nato zone built around them. But the post 2008 NATO movements colosing in on Russia seem to be taken as a threat for Russian politicians. And thats our current state. NATO closing in on Russia, and Russia starting drills and simulations on the evacuation of 40 million people. NATO interppreting that as an escalation in threats, and moving leopards and a few more elite regiments near Russia. And then Russia unveiling their Satan 2 ICBM.
We are living Cold War 2.0, but without the omnipresent Red Scare. Hillary seems rather happy with pointing out fingers to foreign powers to blame for her fuck ups. Trumps looks like a pro-isolationist, anti-globalism candidate, that would certainly think twice before funding random rebel groups in the ME.
Sorry for the long ass comment

i dont see a problem in this. they need to learn their place.

There are more guns in America then there are Russians. Ecen if we had no military they would not be so dumb as to try

Do we really want to go back to being isolationist while some asshole half a world away is constantly threatening to invade his neighbors? That story sounds eerily familiar.

not our problem. All we need to care about is our own country