Why do South Americans keep falling for the socialism meme?

Why do South Americans keep falling for the socialism meme?

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You never let them fail at it on their own back in the cold war so now they're trying

Venezuela did.

brain wash

an ex guerrilla member is leading polls for Colombian presidentials in 2018 too.

socialism has worked well for us (not to confuse with populism). See Chile, socialist coalition make the country almost developed.

Cold-war fuckery, and domino theory.

>2015
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It was working back during the Cold War and was removed before it could fail on its own leaving people to want the good old days back
People keep singing this
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>mexican left
aight mate

i can alreadyy see the droves of colombians coming, after you ruin your country for a second time

for fucks sake

Chile has Euro-socialist+neoliberal capitalist traits to be what it is: close to the first world.

too many niggers/poor people
the idea of getting free shit always lures them

American neoliberalism works great for them.

As if most of those were actually socialists, it's all populist crap made by parties who used to have socialist ideals in their inception.

Why do American college kids keep falling for the socialism meme?

>socialism has worked well for us

Do Colombians actually think their country is socialist? Lol. You guys have one of the most free economies in South America. Only behind Chile I believe.

All this

Because they have a for better insight into politics than the average fox news watcher.

They aren't anymore. Millennials are now actually coming out of college more conservative than they were going in.

with us I meant Latin America, real socialism, socialdemocracy. Chile's socialist presidents make the country as it is today. Equator never developed as much as under Correa. Uruguay is under socialist government too. Socialism in Dominican Republic has the country growing at a 6% rate every year, higher than any other country in the Americas. Bolivia never was better than now, thanks to socialism

> See Chile, socialist coalition make the country almost developed.

shit should be italy tier but """"socialists"""" ruined it

are you dumb, poor shitholes like bolivia or dominican bananalandia will always have high growth % because they are living in huts

I remember this faggot. we discussed that in another thread. if all "poor shitholes" had high growth, there wouldn't be poor shitholes anymore. poor countries stay poor because economic mismanagement, unstability, etc, which is not the case of the DR or Bolivia now.

anyway, no. economic growth is not related or subject to the level of development in a country. pic related.

You are amazingly entirely wrong on everything you've said.

>See Chile, socialist coalition make the country almost developed.
Colombian education

Why are you giving ammunition to them? You're giving reasons to be called dumb by them just because you are Colombian.

This.
Where is 'murica and its freedoms tho.

yeah, look at those blue countries, by far the best ones.

>2015

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>fail at socialism on our own
Wait a minute, didn't we get the shit imposed on us for 45 years by Russian bayonets?

The answer is mostly Cuba, which is a large, cancerous growth infecting the region since 1959.

Blue Peru? what are you doing?

We have have more leftist policies still. Our law and system has been corrupted by that. We had a civil war because of retarded communist guerrillas.
Guatemala had the first socialist government in Latin America in 1945.

different governments for different cultures and different people. I have no problem with this.

But it's still not best for the United States of America

Why do unitedstatesians keep falling for the Chaotic Evil meme?

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>Guatemala had the first socialist government in Latin America in 1945.

we had our first one in 1916 though

During the Cold War, some very effective Soviet/Chinese propaganda convinced many of the less developed cunts that Marxism represented liberation from US/British/French whatever colonialism. Of course it was a canard because in reality, the USSR and China simply wanted to make themselves the colonial overlords of Africa/Asia/Latin America.

Really? My bad.

^THISTHISTHIS.

If you think Russians didn't merely create neo colonialist empire in Eastern Europe, you're even stupider than you look. Commie bullshit about anti-imperialist struggle is simply ruse for the colonization of your cunt by Moscow.

AM LO 20 18

That's what we call justice.

>macri
>left

also right and left wingers are full of shit, national socialism is the way

Yeah but like the other guy said, the mistake we made was not simply letting South American cunts fall to communism, whereupon they'd learn their lesson about how shitty it is. Cuban diaspora are some of the most extreme McCarthyites ever.

Right in LatAm = centrist in USA = center-right in Europe/japan/sk = radical left in China

t. Santiago Perez Mengele

We were nationalistic and that was really good until the Americans backstabbed Getúlio, Perón and many others. Then we starved under right wing dictatorships sponsored by the US for a few decades until everything was falling apart. So the leftists came and made good things but they also made great mistakes.

Argentina and Uruguay pretty shit considering how white they are and it's because of Socialism.

Chile vastly overachieves its racial demographics. It's only about half-white but still manages to be at the same general level as Argentina.

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Because they were the oligarchs who lost all of their privileges with Revolution. The average Cuban in Cuba supports socialism, with minor chsnges.

Maybe because falling for oligarchic regimes up to 1945 plus having Murica-backed dictators/oligarchic regimes after 1945 didn't work out too well for them

I bet you honestly believe this and aren't even baiting

all of our governments from 1990 to 2010 were left wingers mate, and that's where most of our growth comes from

>1950 statistics

See
Left wing compared to Pinochet maybe, but Chile still has the most free economy in Latin America.

But they werent communist left wingers

Yeah you have to understand that ever since colonial times, Latin American cunts were mostly just a source of raw materials for the US and Europe. This neocolonial relationship continued well past independence.

>British interventions in the Cisplatine
>the War of the Pacific was said to have been egged on by European companies who wanted business extracting nitrates from the Atacama Desert
>repeated US interventions in the Caribbean
>the Chaco War was apparently also egged on by foreign companies hoping to drill for oil in the Gran Chaco

Thus, Marxist propaganda told Pedro that if only you killed/expelled all the gringo oil/fruit companies and the people took over the nation's wealth, then all poverty and inequality would disappear. A lot of them apparently bought into it and still do, for all the world that it was just a ruse for Russia or whatever to milk Latin America's resources for themselves. Great power politics are just that.

It was fascism and fascit populist which ruined Arg/Uru. Fascist dictatorships and anticommunist neofalangist movements like Peronism.

>Because they were the oligarchs who lost all of their privileges with Revolution. The average Cuban in Cuba supports socialism

he did say
>in Cuba
you floridian yatusae

I think his point is that thanks to socialism south american countries went to the shitter

You are quite dense, no?

North Korea syndrome.

The only people who haven't fled Cuba by this point are the ultra dregs of society. Everyone with an education or any ambition in life left decades ago.

Cuba was an effective Soviet attack dog in the Third World for 30 years, because they were more marketable than Moscow itself.

Remember that Putin offered flowery condolences at Castro's passing? He remembers...

And using statistics of 5 yrs after WWII when Europe was still rebuilding and most of Asian/African countries didn't exist or were devastated by the war, clearly proves that.

Half of these countries havent suffered any war before, and Venezuela is the perfect example to show that socialism ruined the economy, the only country in that top 5 where liberalism was rejected.

Correct. Unlike back in the Cold War days, we didn't sic the CIA on Hugo Chavez. We let him play himself out and now you can see what a goddamn disaster that he caused.

Probably should have done same in the 70s, although obviously in those days, the pressure to remove commie from premises was greater.

>we didn't sic the CIA on Hugo Chavez.

dude. how can you be this fucking retard?

Probably because of the Montoe dictrine and imposed Us dictatorships.

What is this, GDP per capita?

Yeah...they fed him polonium sushi like that guy in Russia and that's why he died of cancer. I'm sure.

It was Maduro the whole time, a little bird told him to do so.

>anticommunist neofalangist movements like Peronism.

This is true. You have to actually experience gommunism to know why gommunism is fucking retarded idea.

>Perú
>left

Peronism was just populist socialism of a different flavor. Still hot garbage that's fucked Argentina for 60+ years.

how the fuck is Peronism "anticommunits and neofalangist"?

you niggers have to stop talking about shit you don't know anything about.

Thank you, Butthurt Belt. Can always count on you to bring the McCarthyism.

amerijews really attempted to destroy nationalist movements in the region. if you take notice of some far right leaders, the first of them were adamant on building strong countries. they got deposed by those trained in the school of the americas as mere tools of corruption, torture and such

those that did good jobs got replaced quick

For those who don't know, this troll is a nigger whose father had been a minor official under Noriega that lost his job when he got overthrown, so he's forever anally blasted at the US.

does not remove the fact that he's right and you're a sensitive piece of shit
now go cry over this pic at Sup Forums, faggot

Nice samefag proxy.

Mexico was commie as fuck until the 90s.

>Peronism can be described as a third position ideology, as it rejects both capitalism and communism. Peronism espouses corporatism and thus aims to mediate tensions between the classes of society, with the state responsible for negotiating compromise in conflicts between managers and workers.

>From the perspective of opponents, Peronism is an authoritarian ideology. Perón was often compared to fascist dictators, accused of demagoguery, and his policies derided as populist. Proclaiming himself the embodiment of nationality, Perón's government often silenced dissent by accusing opponents of being unpatriotic. The corporatist character of Peronism drew attacks from socialists...

hmmm...

Don't know ask Trump voters, socialists here say the same bullshit that trumpets say in america...

It was, and Mexico didn't always see eye-to-eye with the US on some issues such as relations with Cuba, also various leftist intellectuals such as Arthur Miller went into exile there during the era of McCarthyism.

Mexico went to shit after neoliberalism, so yes, thanks socialism.

>until the 90s.
80s

>also various leftist intellectuals such as Arthur Miller went into exile there during the era of McCarthyism
That always got me laughing. Didn't it ever occur to lefty Bohemian intellectuals that if they lived in the USSR or Cuba, they'd be put in work camps?

which is going to be the first leftist president since mi general Lazaro Cardenas

It's not funny when even colombians know our education is shit

>Latin American cunts were mostly just a source of raw materials for the US
Caracas alone was a bigger market than Boston and New York combined in the 1830's.You are talking out of your ass.The US was mostly a backwards agrarian society until the 1840's

So, South Korea is socialist?
Go blame your problems on someone else Juan

oops you discovered me, let me change proxies

Americans made South Korea because it was (and is) convenient, Americans made us their slave labour via neoliberalism. Go suck American dick somewhere else, Juan.

NAFTA was a disaster for all countries involved senpai.

Cuba should've nuked Am*rica in 1962.