Lets talk weed for a second

Lets talk weed for a second.
if you're thinking of starting smoking weed, maybe your friends are all into it. maybe the cooler kids do it and you wanna fit in. whatever. let me explain something.

Weed is addictive. there, I said it. Stoners all say it's not addictive and it's not physically. But I watched it destroy my friendships in school and it goes really simple.

Weed makes things funner, true. But it has a dangerous side affect, it makes things less fun when you're not blazed and then you wanna get blazed. My friends all but lost the ability to have fun, they thought everything was bland and sucked. and the times we did have fun together, they would always bring up "this would be funner if we were all high" maybe they were right, but I was content with what we had. and the saddest part was they used to be to. I watched them pour hundreds if not thousands of dollars into the hobby over 5 years. I saw their personalities fade as weed took over. seriously, smoke weed long enough and you'll become almost identical to every other pot smoker.

Do I think people who smoke weed are dumb. no. Do I think them smoking weed is a bad decision and saps away their enjoyment, yes.

It doesn't happen to everyone, I do have a few friends, one in particular who are ideal pot smokers, respect that i'm not about that life, offer it maybe but don't press it ever. don't ask if I mind if they go smoke up, they just don't. because they actually can still have fun without it. they never say " wish I was high "

If you find yourself among friends thinking, this would be 10x better if we toked up, if you find yourself spending alot of money and smoking before school, before bed, out with friends almost everyday ect. then you do have a problem. don't even get me started on the gateway drug shit, pretend it's not all you fucking want the simple fact is. not everyone who smokes weed will do harder drugs, but 99-100% of people who do hard drugs started as stoners.

Ok mom

/thread

Right, cause it's the marijana that throws you in prison and revokes your rights and labels you a fed

You have good points but who are you to tell people what to do and what not to? Life is about finding your own path. You found yours and you're not doing any good holding others back

You're probably 23, unemployed, and living at home with mom and dad in a hostile home environment.

You could die tomorrow and the world wouldn't care.

You shouldn't hang out with junkies OP. When their life starts getting more and more shit they will make yours also.

I've seen my friends go from smoking weed to doing.

-molly
-E
-shrooms
-ecstasy
-cocaine
all that shit 2 years after high school.
2 years after being a high schooler and some of my personal friends are addicted to cocaine when in grade 9 they asked me " wanna try weed this weekend? you wont regret it "

I have never smoked weed. not once. I'm not a loser, I was welcomed warmly by the 'popular kids' and the autists alike, I went to parties and had fun and cracked jokes and had a great social life, never needed drugs as a crutch. never condemned my friends for doing it just didn't partake. It's possible to be the sober friend and still be fun guys, I know this post will either go un noticed or I'll get brain dead stoner's trying to defend themselves. but I've seen the affects first hand. I hope a few anons out there can find inspiration from this and maybe just maybe I'll prevent some underage B& from getting hooked on something hard.

I have been smoking weed for 6 years regularly, sometimes multiple times a day.

Not once have I ever thought, gee I enjoy weed, maybe I'll enjoy some crack or heroin.

It may be a gateway drug if you aren't smart to begin with, but the vast majority of users aren't going to dip into other shit just because they enjoy a bowl once or twice a month.

And just because your friends are bums and have absolutely zero self control, doesn't give you the right to be high and mighty to others who partake in their own use of it. Chances are you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed to begin with having friends like that.

Retard, i and probably a lot of other people smoke weed BECAUSE they have no fun/joy or friends in my life. Sure your stupid theory can apply to some spoiled kids that can have anything they want and actually have a reason to live, but not to some nolife loser like myself.

didn't expect otherwise. some of you get defensive and jump to insulting me or trying to dismiss me as a loser so you don't have to listen to my points. those are the ones that are getting addicted to weed. Some of you just change the topic and shift blame. and a few will be respectful, but with all due respect user holding other's back is not the same as trying to help them understand my experiences and hoping they take something away from it.

>brain dead
>seen the affects first hand

okay

refer to the part where I said this doesn't happen to everyone and some people still have fun without it, ect.

>funner
stopped reading

Have you tried smoking a joint before fishing? It makes it actually fun. Same for golf.

Try it sometime.

>ect.
you are an idiot

People are not dumb for smoking weed, just mentally inferior. it's a form of self-medication for people who's lazy, socially awkward, depressed or just have trouble coping with the harshness of reality.

> I smoke weed and dont want to do heroin so your wrong lol

well I did say not everyone who smokes weed does harder drugs, it usually goes like this party is bumping, I'm gonna toke up. all having a great time and buddy whips out the shrooms.
>itsaplant.jpg
couple more parties later and now you do shrooms on the occasion no big whoop and it escalates that way from there. I'm not claiming everyone who goes to parties and smokes weed will do hard drugs, just saying I watched the slow transformation in some of my high school pals growing up

We just do it to make cunts like you bearable.

Funny how I'm a stoner, currently sitting in my office with 3 different diplomas on my wall, and I'm a member of the US Senate.

But hey, weed kills.

you guys do realize how autistic you are right? like your brains can't handle the criticism so you just desperately scowl my posts and go " this guy used improper grammar, so obviously weed is okay "

at least some pot smokers can formulate actual counter points

You never wanna do shrooms at a party. Trust me

ayyyyy lmao US senator

I smoke 0.3g a day usually famalam, so I am not burning much money, that I would just spend otherwise on eg. extra food at the store or whatever

It's all up to you to not let yourself become heavily reliant, and I only smoke when I'm home, using a pipe with a good screen

isn't 420-smoke-cock time? off you go....

of course you are. pic or you're a lying rat

Molly and ecstasy are the same thing you fucking tard

This. My sister smokes pot every day, and constantly wants it. I mean, I literally agree with you on almost everything. You're definitely not a troll, this is serious discourse, thank you.
Kudos to your friends.
I do think people should be able to do it, but again, I believe in moderation, like with anything.

That's because they have no self control. I've been smoking weed daily for at least 15 years. Have never done any other drug. Marijuana is only a "gateway drug" for the weak.

Lol what a faggot.
Coffee is more addictive than weed

you sound pretty in touch with modern teens dude, been to lots of high school parties lately?

also, show where in my post I said people who smoke weed are dumb or can't get good jobs or degrees? right I didn't. what I said was
> Do I think pot smokers are dumb? no
just said it makes most people spend alot of time and money and makes regular life more boring when sober

OP, I don't know why the people here are bashing you so hard for stating a well undermined opinion and I as a weed smoker can absolutely relate to it and give you right in everything. I've seen those side effects at myself and maybe it's because I'm pretty dead inside that I cannot have any real fun anymore, but I haven't been smoking weed in more than a month now cause I'm not in my usual environment anymore but I still feel pretty dead inside despite being abstinent. I don't know. I like getting blazed but maybe it's just because things actually are fun then? But now always. I don't know.

Why are you hating on weed when you browse Sup Forums haha. I could say that just because you browse b that makes you a no life NEET, but I won't because I really don't believe in labeling people because of their freetime activities

not always*

I drank booze before i smoked weed
Explain that kiddo

good job, I'm genuinely happy to read this post. just don't shove your hobby in anyone's throat and you're top notch in my books.

An hero faggot
You reddit fags have destroyed this place

this
I never feel the need to make others smoke and I go out my way to not leave behind the smell aswelll

I may just disregard anymore "OP is dumb for this superficial off topic reason" posts and reply people who actually want to discuss things. also may not reply to more " I smoke weed for X years and am not a drug addict, checkamte " posts

You write as if you are speaking, and you make stupid mistakes. This shows that you aren't intelligent or properly educated, so any opinions you express should be disregarded.

never been to reddit.

b-b-but it cures cancer

Its just weed homie chill out. If someone really wants to quit theyll quit. Weed isnt for everyone. I personally like having a toke.

you're are going to make an swell mcdonalds employee. enjoy your trailer park future...

b-b-bb muh cbd

master troll, here's your (You)

thanks guys, feels good man to have a few anons at least not on the muh weeds bandwagon

As long as you know your limits then it's fine, I'm a social smoker and may only smoke once or twice a week.

This way it stays fun, I don't build up a crazy tolerance and don't have to spend a fortune to get blazed.

Being a gateway drug is a stupid argument, alcohol is far more of a gateway to other drugs then weed, and guess what? Every hard drug user probably tried booze before hard stuff.

I can honestly say I've made far more poor decisions drunk than stoned. I've never got baked and decided I wanted to snort ketamin... I did when drunk.

It boils down to the fact if you have an addictive disposition then draw a line, it's either that or your friends think they are so edgey and like the image they portray being weed heads.

>I have never smoked weed. not once. I'm not a loser
I hate this whole "huuurr only losers smoke pot" thing. Just cause your weak soul cant handle it stop being biased faggot.

Lmao everyone's butt blasted at you but it's true. I had friends that starting smoking 8th grade, tried coke and ecstasy by freshman year and started selling weed, meth by sophomore year and selling it the same year. Now kids I hung out with are running shit for the cartels, all that stuff.

My brother has even started more hard core stuff and is a fucking hippy. Anyone that says pot isn't a gateway drug is either a retard or in denial.

I am chill about it honestly, but I had some friends actually try to quit and fail. I'm not saying your life is shit and going in the drain if you smoke up now and then. I'm just saying be careful that you don't lose yourself and become a living stereotype for stoners like my buddies did

niggers smoke pot pot. nuff said
/thread

Quads of truth.

It's just a smug statement faggots like to make to feel superior.

it is a gateway drug, alcohol is also a gateway. they both are, I fully agree booze is worse than weed in just about every way. doesn't discount what I've said though

Nice

smug faggots that isn't socially awkward, depressed or have weak character.....

eh i been through the lazy stoner stage it happens.
They smoke shitty blunts
i agree fam

I didn't intend to be smug or superior. what I meant was if you're some underage newfag that has actually fears and shit in school right now and are thinking basically everyone who is anyone smokes a little hash in high school, then don't feel pressured because I went without it and had a healthy social life

Weed addict here, or at least OP would call me so. I smoke everyday after work. I am fully functional, I don't see it as any different than people drugging themselves with caffeine or having a cold beer (warm beer is for Jesus lovers). I hang out with people from all around the world with incredibly diverse upbringings. Some of us smoke weed and others don't. If you are mentally a weak person you definitely shouldn't do drugs, Regardless of the form they come in or their molecular structure.

My annual pre-tax income is $250K and I am 27 years old. I have a stable relationship with a woman I love dearly. We have been together for 5 years.

As I said I smoke weed everyday, and I can certify it is certainly addictive. Whenever I've had to change jobs and stop cold turkey to pass a drug test it gets a little hard. I lose my appetite, developed insomnia, and get a little on edge. That being said, I only developed those withdraw symptoms from heavy continued use.

You can be defined by the things you do or you can be in control of your own desires. I stopped lighting my weed and started vaporizing and baking to limit adverse health effects.

I've done countless other drugs from LSD to cocaine.

At the end of the day You can be responsible or you can be a piece of shit, it's your own prerogative.

ITT: OP is mad he cant handle or smoke pot. kek what a fucking fag.

Yeah.
But your friends have a problem because they've made it a problem.
If you abuse anything it will negatively impact your lifestyle.

15 years on and off smoking weed, and I really don't see the problem if you use it casually.

mmmmm speaking of hash i need to finish making some.

The real alphas can smoke weed, maintain a good social life, keep their personalities, enjoy other things and have multiple hobbies, and be productive members of society.

Most people are just really simple and lazy, so weed enhances them. Honestly, it's not the weed that did this to you, you're just a naturally born beta.

You really are a stupid faggot.

>The real alphas can smoke weed, maintain a good social life, keep their personalities, enjoy other things and have multiple hobbies, and be productive members of society.
>Most people are just really simple and lazy, so weed enhances them. Honestly, it's not the weed that did this to you, you're just a naturally born beta.
this, if your lazy youll be lazy with or without ganja. i personally sell and chill all day sincei got laid off from work but it sucks and im going back to work soon but will maintain selling.

you sound incredibly successful, all the power to you, you sounds well put together and I would never consider you a drug addict. I do however think your life would benefit if you never had done those drugs. I'm happy you're life sounds like it's going really well.


>inb4 drugs got me a job OP, myth busted

It only takes 6-8 weeks of not smoking weed for your neuroreceptors to become sensitive again as if you never started. It is addictive but the difference is it doesnt take long to recover and their is no lasting damage to your brain. A lot of young people dont have the will to quit. So if you choose to smoke dont start until your 18.

all underage faggots are smug & stupid, because they lack life experience and prefers emotional arguments. everybody goes through this and feels ashamed by it when older.

>it's a form of self-medication for people who's lazy, socially awkward, depressed or just have trouble coping with the harshness of reality.


Was what I was responding to in that post. All of which are dismissed rather easily in what little info I shared.

Your reading comprehension isn't too great. Have you been consuming too much weed, my friend?

glad you felt you should contribute to the thread butthe realest alphas can do all that and have more money in the pocket because they didn't spend it all on weed and use it as a social crutch

I honestly think this is b8?
regardless smoking it for medical reasons is totally fine in my books...is weed medication for being lazy though?

Anyone who says weed isnt addictive or a gateway drug hasnt smoked weed and partied.
Every one of my friends started with weed, every one of them then wanted to try other things.
But all in all weed is weed and all you do is waste money and time with it imo. But im not going to knock people off their high horse for liking to smoke and play video games. Lets be honest though if your smoking weed and playing video games u probably live at home with mommy lol

Nothing wrong with being blazed every day OP, I smoked daily for 11 years and yes, the "side effects" you describe are the reality, but no more so than any other personal interest. If you like cars you'll find people who have no interest in cars boring and hard to engage with too.

I had to stop smoking in the end because of job I have (never home) but when I'm home I'll blaze it plenty. Just because it isn't your thing, doesn't mean it isn't other people's. PS, other drugs are ok too, I'm sure you take your fair share of "safe drugs" too (caffeine, ibuprofen, aspirin etc).

A few rotten apples doesn't spoil the bunch. Maybe it's not about the weed and it's about having shitty friends to begin with. There are a few kids from high school that I was the closest of friends with and we smoked every day together. Sometimes he would do interesting things like write music or go hiking, but other days we would just sit inside and play video games. after a while I started to realize that the time they wanted to spend with us more often indoors where I was finding myself wanting to spend more time outside or doing things that actually made me feel significant , or like my life has meaning. in a way, I feel like they sort of looked up to me as a sort of mentor or guide, and I always seem to realize things that they had never thought about before, but it was all only fleeting. They thought they understood the lessons I provided, but they never actually applied what they thought they knew to their experience. The things that were meaningful to them and the things that were meaningful to me and started to drift further and further apart. Eventually distance grew so large that a dramatic turn of events happen that ended my friendship with two brothers that I'd known for almost 8 years and two girls, one that I was in love with and the other who was and still is dating one of those brothers with a baby girl. it felt like my life had fallen apart at first, but I came to realize that losing those people was the best thing for me to grow personally. I feel it significant to mention this because it's been two years now almost to the day, and yet those guys in their group of friends still do the same exact shit they used to do when I used to be with them. Smoke weed, play video games, munch out, repeat. My life's by no means glamorous now, but I've found the love of my life and the girl I was in love with, But I didn't speak to for almost a year and a half after that, is now one of my best friends again.

OP is actually painfully correct though. The part that resonated with me the most was when everything becomes boring as fuk. Although it's simple, I had never thought of it like that. Everything was so fun when high, that when not high it's not even enjoyable. And this continues like that for the foreseeable future. I haven't smoked since I was 21 (26 now) , but it doesn't matter, the damage is done

Your friends just need to get stoned to be able to deal with your dumb ass.

>You could die tomorrow and the world wouldn't care

This applies to everyone

Lets talk booze for a second.
if you're thinking of starting drinking, maybe your friends are all into it. maybe the cooler kids drink and you wanna fit in. whatever. let me explain something.

Alcohol is addictive. there, I said it. People who drink all say it's not addictive and it's not physically. But I watched it destroy my friendships in school and it goes really simple.

Alcohol makes things funner, true. But it has a dangerous side affect, it makes things less fun when you're not drunk and then you wanna get drunk. My friends all but lost the ability to have fun, they thought everything was bland and sucked. and the times we did have fun together, they would always bring up "this would be funner if we were all drunk" maybe they were right, but I was content with what we had. and the saddest part was they used to be too. I watched them spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on booze over 5 years. I saw their personalities fade as liquor took over. seriously, drink long enough and you'll become almost identical to every other alchoholic.

Do I think people who drink are dumb. no. Do I think drinking is a bad decision and saps away their enjoyment, yes.

It doesn't happen to everyone, I do have a few friends, one in particular who are ideal booze drinkers, respect that i'm not about that life, offer it maybe but don't press it ever. don't ask if I mind if they go drink up, they just don't. because they actually can still have fun without it. they never say "wish I was drunk "

If you find yourself among friends thinking, this would be 10x better if we were drunk, if you find yourself spending a lot of money and drinking before school, before bed, out with friends almost everyday ect. then you do have a problem. don't even get me started on the gateway drug shit, pretend it's not all you fucking want the simple fact is. not everyone who drinks booze will do harder drugs, but 99-100% of people who do hard drugs started as drunks.

>everyone is the same with weed

When I'm in my death bed I can guarantee I won't think 'I'm so glad I didn't try any drugs'.

'I'm so glad I didn't get coked up with that hot girl from work and bang her brains out'.

'I'm so glad I didn't get stoned with people from 7 different countries in Amsterdam until the sun came up'.

'I'm so glad I didn't experience ultimate clarity, and have spirtual journey with my best friend on LSD'.

The list goes on... life is experience. Life is travel. Make your own choices.

alcoholism is the worst fucking hell.

this I never thought of, thanks for an engaging point.

I'll give it you yah other hobbies will do the same thing, I guess the only real difference is if in my story my friends all liked cars alot, some of them wouldn't be on hard drugs right now.

I guess to reiterate my post is more so directed at those that havent tried it than trying to "reform" people who casually or responsibly smoke pot already

well said

What about warm beer?

"Weed is addictive"
So is Smoking, that's legal, and WORSE.
Idk, if you want Marijuana gone, you want Smoking, Alcohol, and Probably Morphine gone, too

The only time you COULD make an argument against marijuana, without getting too much into details, is when the economic weight of it is too lopsided for the general populations support. As in, if you develop mental illness (that you were already predisposed to) under say the current ACA.

However, that same argument can and is used against all forms of medication and also alcohol.

It isn't a reason in and of itself to shun or look down on those who use it recreationally, as we do not with those who enjoy alcohol every now and then.

Those who argue against it being used medicinally, something I had to face quite regularly running for my spot from a conservative state as a liberal, you must be brutally honest. They are misinformed, and totally unqualified to make such an argument in the face of nearly 100% of researchers and doctors support.

Not trying to hate here or justify my continued use.

But I have gotten to where I am because of the things I've done, people I've meet, and the places I've been. Not all of those have been linked to weed, but many have. I am perfectly proud of where I am and wouldn't change a thing.

However I could be better off, worse off, or be in an identical situation had I not made my choices to use drugs. You can certainly have an opinion that a person would be better off had they not used them in the first place, but that is an opinion. I am where I am because of the path I have taken, if you remove an element there's no guarantee I'll end up. Depending on how you see life, your answer will change. I don't think there is one right or wrong answer.

No they absolutely are not you dumbass.

Dubs have spoken. Although i never tried coke and probably never will i dont care for it.

>death bed
>implying you wont overdose at a festival and die choking and spasming while other conked out people record it and laugh and your body wont be recovered with some ridiculous outfit on

Nah bruh ecstasy is way dirtier. Molly is straight MDMA

Yes they are you beta cuck

good post dude, alot like mine but your points are all the same really, give or take the hard drugs part but all in all yah I agree. Weed And alcohol are Both bad. huh

X is molly mixed with other drugas

"Ultimate clarity". That's the dumbest shit ever and I hate that faggots say that shit. I guess that's why people who've tripped balls (I have many times) are the ones that procure the groundbreaking revelations that further humanity right?

See

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>Life benefiting from not doing drugs
This is something lots of people who have no idea about drugs say, take psychedelics for example, they can permanently expand your horizons and make generally makes you think more by questioning all that you always took for certain.

Weed isnt addictive and its not a gatway drug except in the fact people are taught that marijuana is a horrible thing. When people say hey heroine is bad, hey crystal meth is bad, hey weed is bad, and then you try pot and find its not such a big deal the kids think hey wtf else have they been lying about.

My This also fits in so well with the statistics that marijuana dealers are more likely to also sell other harder drugs to people. Well guess the fuck what, if its illegal then the people already selling the harder illegal drugs get to corner the market. In states where it has been made legal (at least somewhat as there are still limits unlike alcohol where i can go clean out an entire store if i wanted) crime drops, teen marijuana usage actually drops, and best of all opiate usage drops. (people are no longer forced to deal with idiots trying to offer them up a free sample of something else)

You want to keep people off of marijuana as a gateway drug, then its simple... Legalize, regulate, tax the fuck out of it. (tax for recreational only no need to tax medical IMO)

lol this is just your excuse to use drugs. you sound like one of those YOLO faggots.

Well I've made it to 31, don't do many festivals these days and know my limits.