Communist music general

Post songs that are heavily oriented around the plight of the proletariat against the dirty capitalist pigs.
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Real communism can't work as greed is part of human nature

what about human nature ever think of that

please elaborate on how it's a part of human nature

Good taste, OP. Communism's the tits.

Submitting Pulp's "Common People".

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NYC
There I fucking said it.
>'lol im condescending I'll prove myself right xd'

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eat shit you faggot

how is NYC relative to human nature

take prison for instance. when a person is completely stripped of their possessions, except for ONE object, that object becomes the center of the world. it becomes the most precious thing in the universe. ownership and property is part of human nature.

also kill yourself you pinko faggot

>Hurr yea guise i love communism my utterly perfect, infallible brand of communism just hasn't been tried yet so just ignore the millions and millions of people that have suffered and died as a result of it LMAO
>also i'm 14 and marx is the man

you do realize that personal property isn't frowned upon in communism, the only type of property frowned upon is private property

I don't disagree and I didn't ask. Notice how I didn't ask for political opinions in the OP, I asked for music. Post some tunes or get out you emaciated bourgeois puppet

All living creatures are uniformly hedonist and work to prevent pain and gain pleasure.

Sometimes some pain needs to be endured to gain pleasure.
Sometimes helping others is the way to gain pleasure
Sometimes people are wrong about how to gain pleasure

But inherent hedonism is always the root and can not be avoided

Great, so much for having any secret agencies or nuclear power weapons amarite xddddd

what are you saying

You unlettered plebs.

"Human nature" is fluid and responsive to current, material conditions. In capitalism, money is necessary for survival and the more you have, the more cozy and enjoyable your life is likely to be. By design, proles don't get enough of it, so they squabble over what little they have.

Even if you believe humans are greedy and thus communism won't work, consider this: large amount of CEO's salaries, if not the majority, is actually made by slashing their employees' wages, so that they earn less in an hour than they generate for their business in an hour. We, the workers, live much shittier lives than we should be, and communism would in fact liberate us.

Or in 4chanese: capitalism cucks the proletariat.

quit trying to justify your meaningless lifestyles, faggot

Like I said here I don't disagree but I didn't ask for your analysis of Marxism. I have a Masters in political theory, some idiot on Sup Forums doesn't need to educate me on it. I just want to listen to some music

This one's good, very fun

lmao meme

>:^(((

Stereolab is a good commie band

I'm saying you need to be of a certain level of retardation to think modern communism is even remotely good.
North Korea?
>b-but they don't do it right
How the fuck do you do it in your perfect image?
Everyone jumps on your dick because you have some new ideas?
Grand.
Just grand.
Now fuck off back to Sup Forums and stop pushing such a laughable fucking agenda.

This album adapted Orwell's Animal Farm as a critique of capitalism, that doesn't necessarily make the album pro-communism. especially considering the book it's based on has heavy anti-communist themes. God-tier album either way

You are in denial if you disagree with that because the concept of altruism and morality makes you feel good. Accepting the truth of psychological hedonism does not in any way necessitate changing your personal behavior, it is simply a truth about human nature that is tragically overlooked

communism hasn't truly been tried, North Korea is currently in a transitional Marxist-Leninist state, I can't really fault them if they haven't really been a communist nation yet.

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Brotzmann is a god

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Okay in defense from what you said, Marx was pretty clear about the economic and social conditions that needed to exist in a state before revolution, and none of the countries where the revolution happened met these requirements. Lenin was well aware that this might be a problem but he fundamentally said 'fuck it, the Russian spirit beats any lack of development'

I agree that Marxism will never work perfectly, but when people say that the actual examples of Communist states 'weren't right' they are absolutely correct.

>just because it makes you feel good
>then praises hedonism right after

kek

North Korea is still a Stalinist state until Kim dies without leaving a heir or they get their shit kicked-in by South Korea or the US.

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Insights - mark fell and dj sprinkles.

Trade unionist core.

I'm not being snide: what's your definition of communism? I can help you better, knowing it.

More tunes: Black Flag's "Rise Above".

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>communism hasn't truly been tried
Yes it has. So has socialism. Just because it didn't turn out like your idealized vision doesn't mean it wasn't attempted.

Communism places way too much trust on the populace, much like pure democracy, and puts too many in harm's way if someone decides to abuse the system. And the system is so very ripe for abuse.

How is this a point? Yes, you are refusing to accept this because in this moment, refraining from doing so seems to be the more pleasurable experience. But hedonism doesn't negate objective truth, so what the fuck is your argument?

Based Guthrie.

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Also, Phil Ochs' classic dig at liberals from a leftist POV. Very cathartic.

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well, i wasn't really disagreeing with that lol

communism hasn't been tried on a large scale, socialism certainly has but i can't really say the same for communism. just because it's called "communism" by western officials doesn't truly mean it's communism

also you do realize there's different ideology that vary on levels of authoritarianism, right? Marxist-Leninist ideas are to basically stop abuse of the system

"Human nature" is a cop out for people who just don't want to do the right thing because they love money and having more money than they know what to do with too much.

"Life's most persistent and urgent question is, 'What are you doing for others?'“ - Martin Luther King Jr., noted American communist

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much it is whether we provide enough for those who have little." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt, socialist sympathizer

George Orwell was an anarcho-socialist who gave great praise to the revolutionaries in Catalonia during his time in Spain. He was critical of totalitarianism, authoritarianism and government, not communism, which is a form of anarchy. Marxism requires that the government be dismantled for communism to truly flourish.

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Out of the few Cuban singer/songwriters I've listen to, Carlos Puebla is the most blatantly Castrist. I think that's why it catches my ear the best.

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I don't know who this guy is, but he is definitely my comrade.

Another Phil Ochs classic, this one for opposing war, which pit us workers against each other for the profit of the rich.

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MUH HUMAN N-N-N-ATURE!! MUH I-I-I-PHONE!!

Minutemen - This Ain't No Picnic

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>In the mid-1930s... left-wing composer Earl Robinson invited Lead Belly to play at Camp Unity, the [Communist Party]'s summer retreat. The first night, Lead Belly performed songs like "Ella Speed" and "Frankie and Albert" that featured gun-toting gamblers, cheating husbands, and murderous wives. "The camp was in an uproar," Robinson recalled. ''Arguments raged over whether to censure him, me, or both of us." Before the next performance, Robinson explained to Lead Belly that the party expected exemplars of the Negro race to express more high-minded sentiments. That night Lead Belly charmed the crowd with "Bourgeois Blues" and "Scottsboro Boys."
Commies have always been faggots desu

No wonder the left is crumbling.

>Stefan Molyneux
lol

>"Human nature" is a cop out
No wonder you're a commie, you're a fucking moron

You are literally disregarding a valid and vital element of political study because it puts a wrench in your idealized Utopian vision. That's pathetic and you should be ashamed of yourself.

>"Life's most persistent and urgent question is, 'What are you doing for others?'“ - Martin Luther King Jr., noted American communist

>"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much it is whether we provide enough for those who have little." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt, socialist sympathizer

These are not points, they are inspirational opinion quotes. They mean nothing to those who don't already agree. They are intellectual masturbation.

I don't even watch him or agree with him 2bh that image just comes in handy extremely often

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The left's been in ruins since the second red scare, mate. If anything, it's rebuilding since the end of the Cold War and Millennials have been largely untouched by Cold War-era "communist" propaganda.

American "liberals" are the ones in a tailspin.

>communism hasn't truly been tried
just how severe is your mental retardation? your brain must be pretty fit from all those mental gymnastics.

I can't believe people unironically say this

>he still thinks "leftist" and "liberal" are synonyms in the year of our lord two-thousand and seventeen
LOL

Did the workers own the means of production and freely distribute the product of their labor among themselves and their community?

Also real communism is anarchist desu

Stalin is not my comrade.

Because being an intellectual and appreciating the poetry of the greatest American orators is such a horrible crime. Fess up, you like living around dumbed down zombies so you can take advantage like the rest of our lovely psychopathic capitalists. Not saying you are a psychopath, but a lot of them are.

"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - Ronald Wright

Where's the argument in this post?

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Read my post again. I laid that out to the guy I was responding. I'm a communist. I disavowed liberalism and social democracy years ago.

he's saying the argument you're giving is a cop out, not human nature, retard

All of those in pic related had communist ideas, but their countries had only remained socialist

>All of those in pic related had communist ideas, but their countries had only remained socialist
see

>implying I'm specifically an anarcho-communist just because i say the countries were socialist

also anarcho-communism would be possible assuming that post-scarcity would occur. Marx basically knew that his vision would not be able to be realized until the far future

>Because being an intellectual and appreciating the poetry of the greatest American orators is such a horrible crime.
Of course there's nothing wrong with that, dumbass. What's wrong is trying to use them in an argument.

>Fess up, you like living around dumbed down zombies so you can take advantage like the rest of our lovely psychopathic capitalists. Not saying you are a psychopath, but a lot of them are.

I started my own business at the age of 17 and I'm now making a decent living off of it. My customers are on the most part smart and functioning human beings who are happy to trade their money for my goods. We both get something out of the interaction and the money keeps moving. This whole "all these consumerist zombies are so braindead, I'M the only really conscious person here" line of thought is embarrassing and shows a lack of self-awareness.

You may not philosophically agree with capitalism but it might be worth considering that every successful and stable state in the world right now is primarily capitalist.

Where's yours?

>when you're a ml but can't stand tankies
music for this feel?

What happens if I don't want to fucking share?

My anarcho-communism ideal is far into the future, once we're post-scarcity and most the world has embraced communism.

I support Rojava and it has a State, because it's necessary. Surely it's possible for the workers to own the means of production and a State to exist to protect them, but not end up authoritarian.

You are killed and your goods are distributed equally

F U L L Y

Share what? The burgers you make at work? What are you gonna do with all of them? Eat them and induce a heart attack?

You get to keep your toothbrush, mate. But you and your co-workers will give what goods or services you provide/produce away to people who need/want them for free. You don't need to worry about making money because you get free shit too. It's in your best interest.

I love how the arguments for communism are always "but what if we did it this way, then it'd work"

Like fellas, I disagree with communism on a deeply philosophical level.

alright well good luck with that, faggot. how about you post up in a comfy chair and wait for that day. but you'll be long dead by then, and nobody will give a shit.
>m-muh post-scarcity...

Capitalism's usefulness will end when exploitation outweighs prosperity, like what is happening right now. And it's happening prematurely to communism's possible development because full automation of all industry leading to post-scarcity has not been achieved yet. Capitalism's death will be quite ugly because of this, and believe me, it will happen during your lifetime. By the way, if your business is run compassionately, you are most likely a socialist but don't want to admit it. Part of socialism is business owners being required to treat people with dignity. If you do it without being required, you are probably not even aware that you yourself are a closet socialist who thinks communism would be great.

i don't think most ppl understand the concepts of private property and personal property in a socialist/communist society

chalk it up to western propaganda

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Real capitalism has never been tried

This is true as well

here's the reality guys. communism works. but it demands a lot of its adherents. there's no room for dissidence. and not everybody is going to be on board with that shit. clearly the people shilling for muh communism post-scarcity are underage and don't actually understand this. people value freedom. nobody wants to live in a world where you are forced to live in a certain way or else you are sent to a gulag or doomed to die.

what you're saying sounds more like a Marxist-Leninist state

He didn't say anything you moron, he just pointed out an issue with your system. You're projecting harder than my brother

My brother runs the projectors at a theater btw

so when's this 'real communism' supposed to appear?
because I'm betting even when it does rear its ugly head it won't be considered 'real'.

Post-scarcity is real and is true freedom. In fact, we are post-scarcity right now. Poverty is manufactured.

"The poverty of our century is unlike that of any other. It is not, as poverty was before, the result of natural scarcity, but of a set of priorities imposed upon the rest of the world by the rich. Consequently, the modern poor are not pitied … but written off as trash. The twentieth-century consumer economy has produced the first culture for which a beggar is a reminder of nothing." - John Berger

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After the revolution.

>talks about gulags
>yet it's totally related to communizm guize!1

just because there's Marxist-Leninist states that are tough on dissent, that doesn't mean communism inherently sends everyone to gulag

when

Communism is Islamophobic.

When capitalism's inherent contradictions can support it no longer and it collapses. If you don't want to read Marxian analyses of this, Schumpeter's concept of creative destruction is highly similar. No economic system in history has never not collapsed. It's inevitable. Add in climate change, easy access to information and other people due to modern technology, the unprecedented and growing gap between rich and poor, and the spiraling state of the Middle East due to imperialist war and in-fighting for economic and hegemonic domination and the many other evils that causes (*cough* terrorism), and you have yourself a nice recipe for class consciousness and the destruction of capitalism.

when

I don't know what that means, but since you replied to me, I will continue. The top 1% in America literally has enough money to end world hunger and still all be billionaires. The United States itself does too. It would take about $30 billion a year, whereas the United States' military budget is $737 billion a year. They have so much money, the human race will be run centuries before they run out.

I'm not a fortune teller.

Oh, and automation. If anything, universal basic income is coming in the next couple decades.

It's happening right now. You are one of those temporarily-embarrassed millionaires pulling the blinders over your eyes and irrationally hoping that one day you can be like Donald Trump.

when is this supposed to happen

your not answering my question directly

>North Korea
>Soviet Union
State capitalism.

>Scandinavia
Social democracy/welfare capitalism.

Now go.

It will happen soon if you don't sack up and join us. You're getting fucked raw and hard and you deserve a lot better.

Good music discussions

Tell us the date and time of your death.

lmao

high school as fuck

Amazing rebuttal. You sure showed him!

How about I show you this

*unzips*

Bump.

Communism isn't teh big bad red govnurmint, it's about distributing the money witout the boss-middle man.

I was a libertarian capitalism-loving pig in high school. Loved Ron Paul, voted for Romney in my first election. I was one of those people who believed the old American bumper sticker adage "socialism sounds great until you run out of someone else's money". Sup Forums redpilled me and made me a commie, actually.