All these people on here saying how obamcare is great. These are just teens living at home with mommy and daddy...

All these people on here saying how obamcare is great. These are just teens living at home with mommy and daddy. You know how i know? Because not once has any of these little shits said anything about companies getting rid of their 401k price matching because of obamacare. These little shits dont know this because they either dont work or work some little shit job.

I can't really say personally, since my Republican state leaders slashed Medicaid and refused federal funding out of spite for obama, leaving me without health insurance

Then get Obamacare, dumbass.

You just proved you know nothing about any of this.

mines the opposite. The market place said we dont offer it for you, go to medicaid. Medicaid sorry we dont offer it for you, try the marketplace.

My company did price matching. Then to offset the cost of obama care, got rid of it.

>muh401k
>i cant be frugal and save my own money
>someone else should pay for my retirement
fuck off parasite. nurserys over at Sup Forums if you need to be babied

>millions without insurance now have it
>mental health now covered
>women fairer and more affordable coverage

who do you think it is that wrote in that companies must offer insurance? hint: wasnt the democrats. it was the conservative corporate shills paid by insurance companies who added it in. we could have medicare for all, the most efficient healthcare in the country but you cucks blocked it for muh corporations.

the country is ready to progress. back to high school govt class with you.

Obamacare is shit. We needed healthcare as a right but honestly the government is too incompetent and too much conflicting money flowed through Congress anyway so that was never happening. Now we just have people forced to deal with private insurance which has, along with healthcare providers, proven incapable of doing nothing other than skyrocketing the costs. The bottom line is too many fucking people have to make money off the healthcare treatment of each person. Also what said happened in my state. No expansion of Medicaid, if you can't pay the private blood suckers, pay the fine and get no health coverage, aka "Fuck You". So yeah, fuck the state of healthcare. So much useless fat in the system making money and no one gives a fuck about our health on the individual level. Face it, we will always be fucked because we fucking deserve it, we do it to our own.

says guy ho hasnt worked a day in his life.

ObamaCare isn't the problem. ObamaCare exposed the problem. Put the blame where it belongs.

>women fairer and more affordable coverage
liberal stay at home faggot detected

Exactly my nigga

cut benefits to people who work for people who dont.
Socialist commie detected

says an electrician who actually does productive work for society. says an electrician who does work for cheap for struggling families. says an electrician who spent 7 years working a shit job in an apartment without heat to save enough for trade school without a penny from my parents.

"cut benefits" explain.

"people who dont work" again, explain. who do you think is on obamacare? theyre people with jobs who cant afford education to get higher paying jobs bc the education system is trash. theyre kids trying to save for school or a decent place to live. the number of welfare whores is low compared to the struggling workers.

"people who work" not all work should be rewarded. marketing is the scummiest business but they reap high rewards. theres a lot of careers that detract from society that get all the benefits while productive workers like trade laborers suffer. if its the marketers of the country that got screwed, then good.

>cut benefits to people who work for people who dont.

Insurance companies did that. They've diverted nearly all the benefits of the ACA to themselves.

Employers too, to some extent.

Damn you're dumb. I don't qualify for tax breaks because I'm supposed to be covered by Medicaid which republicans in my state destroyed.

>You just proved you know nothing about any of this.
The irony

No company is getting rid of their 401K because of Obamacare prices going up. If a company is doing that, then its leadership is making bad decisions in general and the company won't be a company for long

Just called a guy dumb on the internet... on b of all places
Thanks for my laugh of the day

Also all of y'all liberals need to take your Bernie sanders socialism loving crybaby I want shit for free shit to another country... I'm not paying higher insurance prices so lazy welfare sucking scum can live on their asses doing drugs while I work 2 fucking jobs to support them and me fuck that shit....

You don't want to compare the quality of democratic policies with the quality of republikek policies.

Republikek's shitty policies will always lose, and it's proven with empirical evidence. the 11 poorest states in the US all have republikek governors

Price matching? Do you work for Walmart?

If you prove yourself dumb by not understanding our health care system, then acting as if those who do "know nothing", expect to be called out on it

the thing is that republicans want high unemployment. they want corporations to pay less employees. cutting jobs is their wet dream. and they never have to pay for putting people on welfare either, its the workers that get taxed. republican control = corporate control.

True I was more of laughing because of the place the argument is taking place haha

You could pay less in taxes and in costs than you do now for all healthcare if we just went all the way and socialized the insurance industry.

So whose fault is that?
I'd blame your cheap ass employer.

No, you're going to pay higher prices so the higher ups of these companies can make more money off their forced customer base. You're also going to pay more to pay the salaries of the employees on the bloated payrolls of these insurance companies who literally do nothing but sit around all day. They are likely fapping at "work" while laughing about making money off you while doing nothing. Good job living in a scam so long and not realizing it, then blaming it to what the world told you it should be blamed upon.

i think those companies were just screwing employees to save lots of money then blaming "muh obummercare" to take off the heat

what country is this you are talking about without free healthcare?? Tanzania? Or Uzbecistan?

You do know that 99% of companies make between only a 0-10% profit right? It's hard to pay for health insurance for 50 employees when you are only making 100k a year as the owner. Very obvious in this thread who went to business school and who majored in "computer science"

That's the dumbest fucking thing I've seen yet this morning. Good work, Bernie fag. Now go back to reading Das Kapital and giving up, and trying to understand the Labor Theory of Value in a way that doesn't make it obviously and totally fucking wrong.

>Republicans are corporate stooges1!!1!

Clinton is supported by Citibank, Goldman Sachs, Apple, Google, Disney, Time Warner, basically every major law firm...

>Clinton is supported by Citibank, Goldman Sachs, Apple, Google, Disney, Time Warner, basically every major law firm..
Nigga, politicians are all the same, they're all for sell at our expense.

>owner drives a $500k foreign luxury car
>eats straight gold for lunch
>shits in a toilet made of diamonds
>muh 10% profit doe!!
yeah if you arbitrarily separate ownership and corporation, the profit might be 10%

hard to pay for employees when you spend the money on yachts and country clubs

obvious whos parents paid their way to a nerfy overpaid business job and who works a productive job in this thread.

>no argument
>call him berniecuck
>i win

I live in mass and based on figure 3 we have greater than 55,000 for our gdp and we have a republican governor

> tfw living in first world country
> tfw can just pop by the doctors with no thought about cost

FUCK YOU

You don't actually know how health care works, and you seem like you hate younger people just to hate younger people.

Obamacare is broken and definitely needs to be refined, that's not a question. But it did fix A LOT that was wrong with our country's medical care as a first world nation in a modern world.

Second, you're going to be super dead some day soon and that will be left are these teenage shits you're taking the piss on. Stop being a selfish fuck.

You do realize that Obama care didn't pass, right? Not the full complete plan, it was blocked every step of the way (Republicans wouldn't even vote on it) and forced through by stripping it waaaay down and thus convincing moderates. Then, as an added "fuck you democracy" they allowed for each individual state to decide how much if any and what parts of Obama care will be implemented state wide.

I had to have 7 strokes to get medicaid. Obama care is bullshit. Can't wait for Trump to get it repealed.

This is also kind of backwards, red states aren't as rich per gdp, but they tend to provide a higher standard of living compared to cost. For example I could buy a mansion in Texas for what I paid for my house in California

remote plains of east africa has better healthcare than what amerifags get, thank god we have free NHS.

>these little shits
>These little shits
>some little shit job
wow user you're right I can tell you are an intelligent person with a lot of life experience sharing an informed rational opinion here

Fuck off, you're too young to remember what life was like before Obamacare, when we told people with pre-existing conditions "lol sucks for you!" Obamacare isn't perfect but if you ever lived as an adult on your own in the pre-Obamacare world you'd know what a massive improvement it is.
Single-payer would be ideal and better than Obamacare but conservatives are too dumb to go for that