What should I respect veterans? Most of them don't deserve my respect...

What should I respect veterans? Most of them don't deserve my respect. The only veterans that deserve respect imo are from WW1 and WW2.

Why respect world war vets and not anyone else? Just curious.

Most ww2 vets are dead

There are only a couple hundred left

And ww1 vets are all dead

Because they're really the only ones that did something positive. Every other war or armed conflict has been a total waste of time and simply exercises to show off and gain power. I've got nothing against people who have gone to war, I'm just not going to shake their hands and thank them for it.

I'm aware of that but I believe their actions are the only worth celebrating and given recognition to.

>What should I respect veterans? Most of them don't deserve my respect
sure we had some stupid wars, but we still need a standing military and whether they're called into service or not they're always on call. they could die any day, and that's what they know when they sign up

What makes their actions justified? Compared to other conflicts e.g. Korean war

Just curious how people think

>they know what they sign up for
Sure do. Easy money. That's the main reason. Most military personal have no other like skills so join the army to make easy cash. They couldn't give a shit about their country.

I guess that's just your opinion man
I'm going to guess you haven't spent much time with older folks

Even those wars were started under false pretenses. Just as illegitimate as Vietnam and Iraq.

>easy money
Having me a giggle m8, they don't make shit. A shift trainer at McDicks probably makes more

>Korean war
*sigh* i just looked into the korean war and that war wasn't supposed to be as dragged out as it was. McArthur said we should use nukes on the chinese then he was dismissed... now those fuckin ching chongs are getting all uppity over there and they are more anti-american than the middle east. they're the US's and the world's biggest threat, not the middle east. the middle east can't handle the oil they've got so that needs to be taken control of

Glorification of the military is one of the hallmarks of a fascist state.

Don't think of them as tools of a corporate empire... think of them as "heroes"... God knows why...

the older vets I know do, or i should say they DID, care about their country (USA) until the government beat them down over and over again. so many of them have had their lives destroyed and the government had the largest part in it all

What about Vietnam

No the same person but I think WWII was the last war we were involved in that was actually justified.
I don't think pearl harbor was a false pretense, nor was germany trying to take over europe

>What about Vietnam
i get the feeling vietnam was an accident due to miscommunications on each side. then it was AWKWARD AS FUCK when we got there. what were we supposed to do? leave? then it would look like we lost and those country's hate would have gained unreasonable levels and you'd have terrorists on your hands

I only respect military personnel who have been in combat I give zero respect for those losers who failed at Vietnam fucking junkies besides we signed up for it don't thank me for my fucking service you're a civilian you have more power than any ranking officer

And what about the cold war? (Yes I know it wasn't an actual conflict but us military were enlisted in near continuous ww2 levels)

If the Cold War had of become an actual conflict it would have probably meant doomsday so there'd be no one to give respect to and no one to give respect at all.

>And what about the cold war?

I wasn't alive then but from a common sense approach I would say they were facing the unknown. Who in the hell, especially back then, knew what would happen if a nuclear war broke out? Ask anyone going into conflict where, minimally, great bodily harm is likely, the unknown is enough to make you pass out, lose bowel control, weaken the knees etc..

Make a decent amount but you put up with BS 24/7 unlike a 9-5. I don't know how many 12-16 hour days I've pulled in the past 5 years, but I look about 15 years older.

So would those that joined the military with the knowledge that they were in the midst of a standoff with the opponent with the greatest potential ever be considered brave or admirable?

Again I'm generally neutral and just curious because it kinda sounds like that's could be a reason

You're a massive faggot so I forgive you.

Why should anyone respect you?

>greatest potential ever

you mean, as an example, someone enlisting in the chinese military that knows they're going to get killed by the USA? Yeah i suppose the chinese should respect that person. better to die trying than to not try at all. although, the chinese don't have a cause worth fighting for according to everyone accept a couple dozen or 100 of people in the communist party

> chinese don't have a cause worth fighting for according to everyone accept a couple dozen or 100 of people in the communist party

although the communist party has managed to seize complete control over the media there so maybe there would be a large amount of chinese to kill. which is fine - they'll be the aggressors and they deserve to get beat down

I make ok ish money but I have had many days were I get called into work at odd hours or weekends. Military members don't get paid over time. My dad was active duty army. We were on a family trip in California when all of a sudden the phone rang. My dad almost had to get on a plane and fly back to Germany (where he was stationed at the time). One of the privates or specialists got a DUI off base. My dad being a senior NCO barley got out of having to buy a last minute plane ticket home. It would have costed well over $1200. Anyways, just an example of the bullshit we have to deal with sometimes. The military way is to punish everyone for one person's mistakes.