If you play for either Real or Barca you are considered world class, but if you play for city, chelsea, arsenal, tottenham, Bayern and liverpool you aren't considered world class even tough those teams have beaten barca and madrid lately i.e liverpool-barcelona 4-0
I bet if someone like Harry Kane, Lallana, Firmino, Giroud, Terry and Vardy would be considered world class by everyone is they played for either Barca or Real
and also in terms of quality premier legue >>> La liga
>If you play for either Real or Barca you are considered world class Barcelona and Real won 3 most recent Champions Leagues, so it would make sense for their players to be world class
>but if you play for city, chelsea, arsenal, tottenham, Bayern and liverpool you aren't considered world class A lot of Bayern players are considered world class (Lewandowski, Muller, Vidal, Boateng, Lahm, Neuer etc). City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool aren't nearly as good as Real/Barcelona/Bayern so, naturally, their players aren't considered world class.
>even tough those teams have beaten barca and madrid lately i.e liverpool-barcelona 4-0 This is bait, right?
>I bet if someone like Harry Kane, Lallana, Firmino, Giroud, Terry and Vardy would be considered world class by everyone is they played for either Barca or Real You're mixing up cause and effect. If Firmino played for Real or Barca it'd mean that he's better than Suarez/Messi/Neymar/Bale/Ronaldo/Benzema, which would indeed mean he is world class since he'd be playing over other world class players. The reason why he's not playing for Real/Barca is because he's not world class, if he ever becomes that he's going to move to Spain within a year.
>and also in terms of quality premier legue >>> La liga As shown by not a single tangible footballing metric
Aaron Sullivan
Liverpool beat barca recently tough and Lewandowski, Vidal and Boating aren't quite world class yet. Jamie vardy is way better than Lewandowski tbqh.
Ian Cook
It's spelled "though". Go back to making Svedka for us cheezburgers.
Easton Young
>Liverpool beat barca recently tough Yeah, in a friendly pre season game.
Lucas Powell
>the la liga
David Jones
You make valid points Swedish user...
HOWEVER.
What team from the PL won the Champions League, aside Chelsea in 2012? Manure in 2008....
2008...
In that time, England one once, Germany won once, Italy won once and Spain won...
>Drum Roll...
5 Fucking times. Barca has 3 and Uefadrid has 2
Ethan Nelson
>Barcelona and Real won 3 most recent Champions Leagues, so it would make sense for their players to be world class
You mean playing one relevant team every 2 months in the CL and playing glorified exhibition matches in between them, isn't as difficult as playing one relevant team every 2 months in the CL and actually playing good teams in between them. How many relevant defenders or goalkeepers can you even name from La Liga? By relevant I mean actually good, not meme players who have one good match every few months and Sup Forums claims they're world beaters.
Jordan Walker
Can you please provide some actual proof that La Liga teams are worse than EPL ones? Protip: opinion is not proof.
Because, by every measurable metric, La Liga is the way better league.
Here's a cool stat for you. Since Ronaldo joined Madrid, Real and Barcelona played 23 Champions League games against English opposition. They won 16, drawn 5 and lost 2. They scored 44 goals while conceding 17.
But obviously the reason why the mighty Premier League teams can't even win 10% of their games against Barca/Madrid is because they are oh so tired after having to deal with all those world beaters at Sunderland and Swansea.
>inb4 a reply full of conjecture about random EPL team being better than their La Liga counterpart
Camden Brooks
>As shown by not a single tangible footballing metric
Real and Barca can beat the top teams in the Premier League but the bottom of the table teams in the Prem would seriously aggravate the hemorrhoids of any of the bottom 14-16 teams in La Liga.
So here's a footballing metric for you: depth.
Also, I would bet big money on several Championship clubs raping the bottom of the Leliga table.
Nicholas Rogers
>inb4 a reply full of conjecture about random EPL team being better than their La Liga counterpart Walked right into that one m8
Colton Morris
There's one metric to prove it. It's called the CL (aka madrid/barsa/bayernwinslol) and also the EL (aka sevillawinslol). If this scientific axiom is disturbed one rare year, it'd be with a 99% of certainty by Juve, PSG, Porto, Dortmund, Monaco, Midtjylland, or FC Reykjavik Dentistry before an EPL club.
There's no metric, however, to ponder and measure the value of the Sunderlands of the EPL vs the Las Palmas of La Liga, because there's no european competition available where they can meet and for us to see the results.
However, using the Scientific Method and both the inductive and deductive reasoning, we can reasonably postulate that;
a)corroborating that the top Spanish clubs in a recurrent manner rip the ass apart of their English counterparts in the CL,
b)and corroborating that mid-size Spanish clubs with much less moneys fuck the shit up of mid-size (and top english clubs as well: see Liverpool getting sexually molested by Sevilla) in the EL,
Thus c) we can assume with a fair degree of certainty that the bulky spanish clubs would mercilessly ravage the poopoo of bulky english clubs in the Mickey Mouse yurocup for the bottom 10 clubs of each league.
t. Football Scientist.
Zachary Scott
I would also like to submit for further analysis and deductive consideration that, whereas you don't get to see the Sunderlands and Portsmouths of the EPL ever getting into yuropean competitions (much less getting to some relevant stages) you do from time to time see their Spanish counterparts making it to Yurop, and furthermore making it BIG, as was the case of Malaga almost getting to the CL semifinals vs Dortmund, Deportivo do reaching the semifinals or the newly promoted Alaves almost ridiculing Liverpool in the EL Final.
t.Football Scientist
Austin Ward
>letting people who aren't from your country play in your domestic competition
Jeremiah Edwards
>Lewandowski, Vidal and Boating aren't quite world class yet. Jamie vardy is way better than Lewandowski tbqh. jesus christ
Adrian Stewart
>implying being good hardworking english lads who put in 110% isn't more important than being world class
Robert Butler
Good to see that the resident Spanish autists still get internet access in their insane asylums
Liam Myers
>the english delusion
Juan Collins
Forget Madrid and Barcelona. Right now Atletico and Sevilla murder English teams too lol
>Atletico has been in 2 CL finals in last 3 years, being only stopped by Real Madrid these last 3 years >Sevillawinslol has won last 3 Europa Leagues
Oliver Rogers
Friendly reminder that in middle of Real Madrid and Barcelona stomping everybody last 5 years, motherfucking Atletico has managed to win one Liga title and eliminate Barcelona twice in CL. They always cuck Real Madrid too (except in CL where Real Madrid cucks them)
Right now Champions League is a rock-paper-scissors where Real Madrid beats Atletico, Atletico beats Barça, and Barça beats Real Madrid.
Anyways, I think this year CL is going to be won by Bayern.
Benjamin Hernandez
I expected an american flag tbqh
Daniel Russell
>Barça beats Real Madrid When? I mean 2011 was refballed as fuck and they havent faced ever since.Btw nice thread Swede Valencian user lots of people have fallen to your b8
Gavin King
maybe juventus?
Michael Jones
You can be as hardworking as you want, the standard of coaching in England is often pretty poor. If you look at compactness, movement off the ball and spacing, you see that most English teams simply get bailed out by their really good players.
I mean just look at Man City last season, their spacing was pure shit, the midfield moved suboptimally, yet they were still a good team because of their incredible individual quality.
Jason Gonzalez
daily reminder
Cameron Carter
>Vidal not world class Top kek.
Luke Hill
Real Madrid and Barca are kings at faking injuries to get penalties that is why they win, but Bayern is actually a great team unlike Barca and Real.
Kevin Jones
and also the only people who support Real or Barca are arabs
Swedefag butthurt because Barcelona hates Ibrashit
Robert Turner
Barcelona won the Spanish Champions, English Champions, French Champions, Dutch Champions and German Champions to win the UCL in 2014 season. Still not good enough Pajeet?
Joshua Bell
>when? >La liga El Classico scores since 2013
Barcelona 1 - 2 Real Madrid
Real Madrid 0 - 4 Barcelona
Barcelona 2 - 1 Real Madrid
Real Madrid 3 - 1 Barcelona
Real Madrid 3 - 4 Barcelona
Barcelona 2 - 1 Real Madrid
Owen Jones
Nice bait
Adrian Barnes
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Ayden Barnes
there is so much bait in this tread and all of it has been swallowed
Ayden Clark
>won
The verb is 'beat', johnny.
Wyatt Hill
La Liga is barely even a league, only 2 (sometimes 3) teams can ever win for decades on end. Midtable in La Liga means being a championship team in England, and being in the relegation zone basically means you are in league 1 or 2 in England. It's like those shitty African countries with a few diamond billionaires and everyone else is drinking piss water to survive.
Anthony Jones
How can people talk shit about EPL players dominating in Spain when English teams have been a joke in europe and SPanish one dominated?