Had a good discussion last night with the Rome vs Westeros thread. Let's keep it going.
Mordor and Isengard have magically appeared in Westeros and seek to rule this world.
Westeros in Season 1 vs Sauron and Surumon's forced seen in TlotR trilogy. What about Westeros in the current season? Sauron does not have the one ring
Adam Thomas
FOR FRODO
Jayden Evans
Everyone in Westeros is extremely fucking incompetent so Sauron wins.
Assuming they have Nazguls and felbeasts neither White Walkers nor Dragons can even touch them.
Jayden Davis
>Rome vs Westeros >not Belisarius expedition vs Westeros
Nathaniel Thompson
>neither White Walkers nor Dragons can even touch them. Not so sure about that m8
Logan Sanders
Wouldn't even be a contest if not for the dragons.
Austin Jackson
A big bad like Mordor would unify Westeros
Alexander Gomez
Finding a fantasy universe that Westeros can beat is actually some what hard.
Angel Scott
Link to the Rome vs Westeros thread?
Kayden Butler
Explain?
Dylan Ross
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Jackson Morgan
Unlike Middle-Earth's dragons which are cunning and have their own agendas like sitting on gold for no reason or trolling a brother and sister to fuck each other for shit and giggles, dragons are just bigger fel beasts. If he wanted he would probably control them seeing how much destructive capabilities they have.
Jack King
How is Westeros for magic? Because with the 'god' Sauron, the Witch King, and Saruman, Mordor has some ultra-level magic at its disposal. Not to mention the fearful power of the Nazgul, and whatever other demonic spirits at his disposal. Oh, and Mumaks!
Thomas Edwards
Even at this point in the books Westeros is pretty much just a run-of-the-mill medieval society. The most powerful weapon they have access to is probably wildfire.
Aiden Sanders
How would a unified westeros army including the white walkers fare against Sauron's army minus sauron and led by the witch king?
Jackson Watson
Sauron will probably go full Mordor again, probably base himself in old Valyria where volcanoes are, inject his magic and evil into the land, making the cursed place even more cursed and foreboding, reactivating volcanoes and shit, and sway all the eastern lands to his will because of his manipulativeness and promises of riches and power, also fear. Dothraki, the Slaver's Bay, probably even Quarth.
Wyatt Long
>and led by the witch king? They would get their shit kicked in bad.
Since the Witch king is the actual brains behind everything related to Mordor and the one that destroyed the kingdom of Arnor and turned Minas Ithil into Minas Morgul. I mean, this guy would not only destroy nations but also summon wraiths and spooky ghosts to make sure no future generation would be able to inhabit them.
If Sauron never managed to corrupt him then Mordor would have fallen a long time ago since he is that bad as a military commander.
Carter Phillips
>forgetting Saruman So, where will Saruman be based? Assuming both he and Sauron still has the palantir? >Saruman in the west; Sauron in the east >King's Landing in the middle of it all
Kevin Perry
Biggest headache for Sauron is the White Walker's ability to raise the dead. It apparently raises animals like horses too.
>yfw Sauron replicates the ritual by the Children of the Forest, creating his own White Walkers loyal to him
Kevin Gutierrez
>Saruman corrupts the King like he did Theoden >he can now systematically destroy Westeros from the inside out Also, Varys network of spies would be nothing compared to Sarumans, especially when they use fucking ravens to relay messages to eachother.
Elijah White
Saruman then visits Oldtown and with his power of speech sways the Maesters to his side, allowing him to learn the magic of Westeros
Lucas Garcia
Never thought of the Barrow Downs as being just the Witch King's 'salted earth' policy. That's hilarious, user! Thank you for that. The Witch King is pretty bad-assed. After he had turned the City of the Moon into the City of Black Sorcery, he sent heralds to the King of Gondor, challenging his supposed rulership of the realm. This got the Gondorian King soo pissed that he road to Minas Morgul to accept the challenge. And so ended the last King of Gondor until Elessar.
John Brown
Witch-King (book one) can only be killed by a special blade, right? I doubt anyone in Westeros has that, anyone who is up against the Witch-King is pretty much fucked no matter how skilled they are.
Xavier James
>Biggest headache for Sauron is the White Walker's ability to raise the dead. It apparently raises animals like horses too. Sauron will take control over them since Sauron are demigod-necromancer.
John Ross
>the show literally took away White Walker's advantage by making them out as just transformed ice people instead of supernatural ice elves
Nolan Wilson
After all the armies were destroyed, it would all come down to CIA vs Tom Bombadil and they'd be evenly matched because they both use meme magic - the most powerful kind. They're basically the same character in that sense.
Jace Cox
You could hand-wave that, though - any sort of holy item ought to do the trick; and don't forget running water, sunlight, and strong faith. Plus, if you hold that he's fated to die by a woman's hand, then he's got at least some worrying to do...
William Williams
Even without magic. Mordor have better heavy and light cavalry, better infantry and shitton of orcs, uruks and olags.
Austin Hernandez
And all this useless without arnorian sword.
Brayden Torres
And they double-team Goldberry, thus birthing a new and more powerful magical realm...
Bentley Parker
>Eärendil shows up through some dimensional space-time rift >him and CIA proceed to crash his flying ship into the armies of Mordor and Westeros with no survivors
Tyler Allen
What Arnorian sword? Are you talking about Merry's Numenorean shortsword? That didn't kill the Witch King - it only wounded him; and it only did that because, in Middle Earth terms, it was a 'holy' weapon. The Witch King was killed with a Rohirrim blade wielded by an avenging shield-maiden. Right in his face.
Levi Morris
>yfw Sauron will willingly enthrall himself to a king/queen and slowly corrupt him to do this bidding Too bad he doesn't have his fair form anymore, but if he plays his cards right, he could always style himself as the Lord of Light and make use of their priest's glamour magic.
Pretty much one of Sauron's greatest strengths is that he can wait a really long ass time.
Hudson Ortiz
>That didn't kill the Witch King It's disabled his defense adn made him vulnerable.
Jeremiah Barnes
The witch kings a literal dick. I forgot all the shenanigans he pulled
Nathan King
Oh, absolutely yes. Because it was 'holy' - thus, if Westeros has any 'good' 'holy' items, they ought to have the same effect.
Jonathan Anderson
> if Westeros has any 'good' 'holy' items, they ought to have the same effect. But there is no something "Holy" in liberal setting and none who could bear the weapon.
Elijah Butler
Better question
The Dark Portal opens at the Southern Tip of Dorne just prior to the events of Season 1 and the Horde led by Gul'Dan enters Westeros. The majority of orcs are corrupted by Mannoroth's blood. Key commanders on the Horde side are Gul'dan, Ner'zul (mostly under Gul'dan control but secretly trying to sabotage his plans), Garona, Grom Hellscream, Cho'Gall, Blackhand, Doomhammer, Kilrogg Deadeye, and Kargath Bladefist and their forces are roughly 5000 orcs, a few hundred direwolves, 500 ogres, and about 100 warlocks of varying power. Gul'dan will try to corrupt Westeros humans as he goes north with his ultimate goal being the corruption of the giants, children of the forest, and the others in the north to serve the legion. Gul'dan has been provided minimal information about the world by Kil'Jaden
How does it go down
Angel Jenkins
The witch king literally burnt middle-earth to the ground and conquered all of it
Xavier Cox
They manage to push all the way up north to the neck before starting to run out of soldiers and Gul'dan, Cho'gall and the warlocks end up as raped and brutalized corpses after Doomhammer has had enough of their shenanigans and then makes an alliance with the Kelly C and her Dothraki.
Cooper Ward
...and then there's the god-damned Second Age...when Sauron's armies did very bad things...
Joshua Ramirez
>Doomhammer vs Robert hammer to hammer combat >Ramsay trying to twenty goodmen Gul'dan and the shadow council and ending up being raped to death by Garona/a succubus >Kilrogg and Cho'gall fucking up their raid on King's Landing which somehow ends with the entire city being destroyed by wildfire >Garona and Jaime bonding Could actually be a neat concept to be honest
Isaac Murphy
Dragonfire can destroy the rings, so the Nazgul would actually be fucked. Also they're weak to fire to begin with.
Easton Reed
Why does the guy stay with the horse?
Levi Stewart
>Dragonfire can destroy the rings Nope, only powerful as Ancalagon was
Jayden Williams
Interesting - but, the Nazgul don't bear their rings anymore: Sauron's got 'em. But you're right on the fire.
Didn't the witchking challenge the king of gondor every year for something like 50 years before the king finally got fed up? What a troll!
Henry Morales
That thing is such bullshit, fuck you Morgoth.
Luis Brooks
doesn't have to be ancy, 4 of the 7 dwarf rings were lost to dragon fire well into the 3rd age
however, these are ME dragons that differ quite from the ones in asoiaf
Nathan Wright
>CIA goes up to Barad-Dur to talk to Sauron >If I topple this tower, would you die? >It would be extremely painful >You're a big eye
Nolan Lewis
too bad he went out like a bitch
John Ramirez
Eagles bitch, how do they work?
Eli Perry
“It has been said that dragon-fire could melt and consume the Rings of Power, but there is not now any dragon left on earth in which the old fire is hot enough; nor was there ever any dragon, not even Ancalagon the Black, who could have harmed the One Ring, the Ruling Ring ..."
Jaxon Foster
Feanorian kek.
Benjamin Jones
>For Little Finger
Jayden Lopez
tell me about sauron, why does he wear the ring?
Jace Taylor
Squires typically don't fight, they're like camp whores/medics/clergy.
Jose Long
This still doesn't solve whether the dragons from Westeros could do it though.
Elijah Adams
Westeros gets raped HARD.
Austin Adams
Thank you, Gandalf. Speaking of: I imagine he'd show up to help the free folk of Westeros fight the ancient evil.
Aiden Roberts
Boats and Eagles turned to magic missiles.
Ryan Morales
makes him feel stronk.
Isaac Parker
If a dragon the size of a mountain can't do it, I doubt the house-sized dragons of Westeros can. I think Gandalf's point was that the One Ring simply cant be destroyed by fire at all, no matter how powerful it is.
Ian Howard
But who would listen to him?
John Adams
More likely he will look at this whorehouse and say "no, fuck it"
Evan Morales
user, I think you missed the point. Gandalf said not even Ancalagon could harm The One Ring. The Nazgul had very different rings though. As it was said before, the Dwarves lost some of their rings to dragons. Of course this whole point is moot considering the fact that they didn't carry the rings on their person.
Joseph Davis
Durin's Bane?
Lincoln Garcia
>Well congratulations, you managed to get stopped by a wizard. What's the next step of your master plan? >Crashing this bridge
John Parker
if i melt that ring, would he die?
Grayson Wilson
Balrog: "No! This can't be happening! I'm in charge here!"
Nicholas Russell
the nazgul didnt carried their rings, and the only way to permanently kill them its distroying the one ring and only mount of doom lava could do the work
Kayden Thompson
I was talking about the One Ring the whole time. I didn't realize people were talking about the nine nazgul rings. I get it now though.
Isaac King
Implying you wouldn't troll brother sister incest at least once if you were effectively a demigod
Jaxson Richardson
No, but it would be extremely painful.
Grayson Rodriguez
The Empire have now discovered the planet Westeros resides on and seeks to control this world under the influence of The Emperor Sheev Palpatine. How will the Seven Kingdoms, The Roman Legion and the forces of both Isengard and Mordor be able to resist the will of the Empire?
Eli Butler
he is a beautiful guy
Henry Hill
They fly their eagles down that chute on the Death Star, problem solved. Why is the Giver of Gifts surrounded by all those orcs? Surely he must be in trouble!
Nicholas Cooper
Find a bunch of midgets that can throw rocks and set home alone style traps.
Thomas Moore
any more of those removed scenes?
wasnt there one with the elven king too? in the first movie's opening battle
some insider information too would be appreciated
Owen Sanders
Star Destroyers bombard Westeros from orbit until the continent is a sterile desert without setting foot on it.
Eli Bell
Then where does the tax revenue come from?
Jayden Gutierrez
Since Sauron isn't pants on head retarded he carries a weapon into battle.
Colton Rodriguez
He's a big guy.
Isaiah Robinson
This. Also Tolkien power levels outclass GRUM by a shitload. Aragorn or Boromir would shit on fucking anyone in a 1v1 sword fight.
Logan Taylor
And 'e 'as aahrmer, and a big fookin' mace.
Charles Anderson
gil-galad?
Jordan Thomas
Hound please go. I thought Elves were meant to be fair to look at?
Jacob Diaz
>warlocks >not just a bunch of frost meme mages >not just blinking and snaring the westeros force constantly while mashing frost bolt
Nolan Fisher
could he beat the mountain?
take into account that the mountain is a big guy
Xavier Turner
Sauron has no eyes for Gregor to poke, so yes he could.
Austin Jones
>Ramsay vs. Jon >Boromir wins
Samuel Hill
There are so many people in Tolkien's universe that would dump on the mountain.
William Gray
Lmao
Oliver Murphy
kys
Blake Rogers
What about the seven lords of hell being reborn in westeros dimension, and the angels going after them?
Also what about the wild hunt?
Ayden Sullivan
>wild hunt Winter is coming.
Lincoln Foster
>Among us a legend, the one they call geralt of rivia, the white wolf. Damnit geralt actually fits in westeros.
Andrew Evans
Boromir and Ned Stark go at it, but who comes out on top?
Kevin Carter
Geralt in Westeros would just end up with him getting involved in politics because Dandelion fucked someone he shouldn't have. My money is on Margarey.