>Go to Vietnam >Signs are all in English >Starbucks, McDonald's, Pizza Hut, Burger King, Dairy Queen, Carl's Jr are everywhere >even though people are commies they're still nice and humble in that SEA Asian way (especially compared to chinks) >cafes and convenience stores play Western music
Wait...
Hol' up.
Why did the Viet Cong put up a fight against the US? What was the point of the war? It's as if they've already been colonized by America already.
We all know that the United States lost the Viet Nam War.
Levi Wilson
so you're telling me
>walk into cafe/convenience stores >it ain't me starts playing
Xavier Richardson
How to get an apartment there? What about visas?
Connor Morgan
>It Ain't Me starts playing.
Kevin Young
What he said is true tho, except >Signs are all in English
Elijah Morales
>Why did the Viet Cong put up a fight against the US? Hoe G Min realized proletariat memes were danker than capitalist memes A Che t-shirt is edgy and rebellious An Adam Smith t-shirt would just be boring
Isaiah Rivera
I don't think most people even know of the Beatles, kek.
Juan Thomas
like it
Brody Cooper
Anti-imperialism. Viet Cong afraid that they will become Indochina 2.0 with US instead of France as their master. You know, white guy whipping you like a slave and force you to make/plant stuff for them.
Jaxson Wood
>read Wikipedia >boils down to socialist Vietnam having money troubles and unable to industrialize without Soviet Union support, forcing them to go Democratic, Capitalist Hah. Freedom wins even if you do nothing.
Hudson Fisher
>Any point in Vietnam's history >Democracy
Asher Brown
Burgers play the long game. In a few generations, your parent's grandchildren won't even remember who Lenin is.
Ayden Cooper
>I don't think most people even know of the Beatles, kek. Beatles don't sing that song, The Fortunate Sons does
Michael Rivera
Average Vietnamese don't know who Marx or Lenin are anyway, they just know the names.
Caleb Russell
But the US is their master. They lost the war.
Ayden Long
I know, i just wrote that normal Vietnamese don't know of the Beatles, then how can they know of CCR. >The Fortunate Sons ebin
Jordan Ramirez
I think he means that if one does not know who The Beatles is, they shouldn't know about more obscure bands like The Fortunate Sons.
Kevin Roberts
But you are not working them like slaves or install a white guy as their leader. All you do is open a McDonald in the middle of capital and call it a day. And even the McDonald is run by the local.
Wyatt Fisher
>Beatles don't sing that song, The Fortunate Sons does
Creedence Clearwater Revival sings Fortunate Son.
Kevin Clark
>that feel when no Viet bro that you can carry around in your pocket
Ryder Sullivan
That's Dutch-style imperialism, and it's out of date. Do you remember the country of Rhodesia? Neither do I. Do you remember the country of Zimbabwe? Not for long.
American-style imperialism merely enforces a complicated web of trade ties that force amicable relations between our countries. You wouldn't necessarily want us to pull out our McDonalds and military bases (if any), and we want to use your country as a watchdog against China.
Ayden Harris
He's memeing
Austin Allen
>But you are not working them like slaves They do that FOR us. Not for much longer, though. Trump will put a stop to it. Hopefully they'll embrace capitalism and not end up like China.
Gabriel Davis
I really liked Vietnam when I went there. Particularly seeing as I went to China before it and I then naturally assumed that they were all soulless emotionless rodents
Connor Reyes
But china is hyper capitalist except for maybe land ownership where you buy a house but only own the building while the state owns the land.
Carson Ross
I agree with you. But you have to understand their viewpoint. For them, when white guy picking fight with them, it mean old-style imperialism. And some countries still believe this even now.
Isaac Myers
Vietnam was richer than Korea and Taiwan before communist came
Adam Clark
Picture related. The face of American imperialism. This is also probably what it looks like in Vietnam, too. You might have to include more American companies to get the same density, mostly manufacturing. Unfortunately I couldn't find a non-shit global map of every McDonald's in the world.
Nathan Clark
I'd put up a fight too if it wasn't my cunts fault. There's a good reason Vietnam war was the last war where US citizens were drafted.
Zachary Martin
>Vietnam was richer than Korea and Taiwan before communist came Wow. It's fucking nothing then. Even Malaysia and Philippines was the richest region in the whole Asia save India subcontinent during that time.
Thomas Diaz
>Starbucks, McDonald's, Pizza Hut, Burger King, Dairy Queen, Carl's Jr are everywhere >cafes and convenience stores play Western music sounds like every country ever outside of africa and your shit country
Evan Edwards
I aint no silver spoon
Josiah Green
Oh and Japan.
Nolan Scott
>Fight decades-long guerilla war >Endure shitty conditions day in and day out >Your mates get slaughtered when the Americans do find your positions (seriously, count the dead) >All in the name of a political ideology you half-hardheartedly believe after so many years >Just want to lounge in Levi jeans and eat a hot Big Mac Am I correct or is it far more complex?
Thomas Ramirez
See this
Connor Scott
Basically the Americans feared Communism, with Chinese support, spreading through all of South East Asia and potentially in the Sub Continent if Vietnam became Communist. A Soviet/Chinese aligned Asia would be a near disaster for the US and capitalism in general. This was known as the Domino theory.
I guess you could say that while the US (and Australia) did lose in Vietnam, in that they left largely due to domestic political reasons and Saigon eventually fell to Communism, they were able to avert a Communist dominated Asia. Furthermore, the Vietnamese have always hated the Chinese. I'm talking for over a millennia. The Chinese supported the North Vietnamese purely due to the ideological battle, but as soon as the war was over they two went back to hating each other. The Chinese and Vietnamese fought not even 5 years after the Vietnam war ended, despite being both Communist.
Today, the Vietnamese, particularly the younger generation, are becoming more and more Westernised. The first Maccas opened up in Hanoi only in 2015 I think and business there as been booming, so I think more are planned. Many of them speak basic English, and if you go to Vietnam today, they really like Americans and Australians (this really surprises many Americans in particular). When you ask many of them about their feelings of the Vietnam War, a common reaction is for them to just shrug it off and say that it just a small part of a long list of wars the Vietnamese has fought. It's a bizarre thought that the Vietnam War almost had (and still has) a greater cultural and political impact on America and Australia than it did in Vietnam. I encourage you to go there sometime, they are very nice people.
And on a political level too, the Vietnamese and the US are becoming ever closer due to mutual alarm and uneasiness over Chinese expansionism in the South China Sea.
All in all a fascinating country, sorry about the wall of text.
Easton King
it aint me
Cameron Myers
Vietnam is basically Europe
Adam Cooper
Most popular fast food brands on the European continent.
Though for Finland it would be a different logo, if the gazillion ähläm kebab/pizza joints would syndicate into one brand.
Jackson Young
Pretty sure the band is called "some folks are born".