Was the Vietnam war a mistake?

Was the Vietnam war a mistake?

Well it cost billions, killed tens of thousands of our people, divided a nation, and literally accomplished nothing so you tell me.

At the time, no.

Looking back, yes.

We killed alot of gooks too tho

Could've done that with economic sanctions alone. Didn't need to waste so many superior white lives.

It stopped Communism and at the the time that was Americas biggest priority, and if we didnt do something the domino effect would have took place so no, it was necessary to take action

economic sanctions like that random nigger ass user said

just did a paper on this

definite mistake
look up long term medical effects from things like agent orange and other defoliating agents

>It stopped Communism

How, exactly?

The war itself was not a mistake.
Its execution was
Should have saturation fire bombed Hanoi like the brits did Dresden in WW2.
Shit would have been over in 3 days.

No, but we were there and we almost won but the hippies in college wanted "love and peace man" so we had to pull out and leave the people of Saigon to be put in concentration camps.
We should've finished off those gooks.

Was the Vietnam war a mistake?
Yes
Shit would have been over in 3 days.
No. WWII thinking is what lost a guerilla war

Yes, they could just have nuked the shit out of those filthy chinks but they didnt have the balls to do it.

Yes but so was every war america got into since 1945.

We never even came close to winning. We got our asses kicked by peasants because they knew the terrain and used tactics that our jackoffs have no goddamned chance against.

Yeah and nuke rhymes with gook. But hey now they got McDonalds, so, kewl.

Dude we literally never lost a battle in that war, and we didn't get our asses kicked. Sure they had the terrain advantage, and they had even more of an advantage because they kept fleeing into Laos because we couldn't go in there. At that time, our military was becoming like it is today. A bunch of leaders who don't want to get shit done and go in there and fuck shit up. We could have easily won that war.

Never lost a battle, lost the war. Objectives failed (stop the spread of communism in Vietnam), thousands dead, enemy remains in control and in place. Complete and utter failure by every measure.

Never came close huh? Is that why our casualties were like 60,000 dead and theirs were like 440,000 dead?

Right. The faggot I responded to said we never came close to winning. We won every battle but pulled out. That's why we lost. The only reason the vietnamese won is because we left Saigon to defend itself and it couldn't. But you're right, it was a failure. I blame it on the fucking retards who just wanted to sit around and have peace and were bitching at the soldiers.

Someone pls post vietnam pictures

And yet the country fell to the enemy anyway when the objective was to prevent that. Supposition (if we didn't leave we would have won) is cute but is no basis for an argument because it implies things would go your way because you said so. And we pulled out due to the horrendous ass kicking we were receiving that the complete inability to achieve our objectives.

It doesn't feel good to say that we lost to an impoverished, broken nation but it really doesn't do us any good to pretend that it was anything but a complete defeat and failure. Hindsight is 20/20. If we didn't leave Saigon, if we had stopped Hitler earlier, if we had acted in Rwanda, etc etc. Meaningless. The reality is that we lost and lsot badly.

The Vietnam War did supply tremendous amounts of money to American corporations, so in that sense, it accomplished exactly what it was supposed to accomplish.

Hey as someone whomwas there 66 67 it was a terrible mistake. Those of us that fought the war, were scared physically and mentally. I will end with this . Returning home from my tour changing planes in San Francisco, walk by a group,of kids my age. Baby Killer, Fscists, Murderer, were just what was yelled at us. Then they started throwing Soda and spitting at us. This is how most of us wete thanked for our service. All this because we did whatbour country asked us to do.

Your contention that the U.S. pulled out because of 'ass kicking' is substantially inaccurate. Political issues, public dissent, etc. We lost to ourselves. Anyways, this is boring already. Have a good weekend, Anons.

It's a mistake to assume they valued their soldiers lives like Americans do.
Every dead veitcong was a hero. Every dead American was a blow to moral. They gained from losing battles when they lost nothing but poorly trained war heros.
They won via attrition.

Pff please where would we be today without the random war that inspired Rambo?

Dude how awesome would it be if they made a Rambo movie that tells his story when he was in the 'Nam? I always wondered why they haven't done it....

If you aren't roleplaying, thank you. Seriously, thank you for putting your life on the line for America

Holy shit you tards have short time frames of understanding. The war had to happen, stoopid as it was, because of the logic of Cold War in 1960's -- even though leaders knew it was bullshit.

The real mistake was made by Truman, who was a dipshit, right after FDR died. USA built the force that became Viet Minh, our OSS (pre-CIA) training and arming Ho Chi Minh and Vo Nguyen Giap (General who defeated French at Dien Bien Phu and later defeated US Army) to fight the Japanese in WW2.

FDR supported Ho's desire to declare independence in 1945, but when he died the pussy Truman got bitchslapped by State Department into "giving" Vietnam back to ungrateful French Fuck Charles de Gualle to recolonize. Boom, war of independence from France that only morphed into Full Communist bullshit because when you kill all the normal patriots who want independence, only the worst savage jungle assholes are left to fight -- Viet Kong eventually.

Read the 1945 Vietnamese declaration of independence by Ho Chi Minh --- it's his best paraphrase of US Declaration of Independence, which he couldn't make any better b/c Truman forbade his OSS buddies, who fought with him against Japan, from giving him a copy of the real thing... so he had to do it from memory after living years in the fucking jungle.

>We could have easily won that war.

but you didn't, you lost. It was humiliating.

This. War is a shitty, hellish thing.

No. Killing foreigners is its own reward.

Liar.

Iraq proved it couldn't have been easy. Id bet it would have been significantly harder given Russian arms (that were not incredibly obsolete like now) being pumped into the conflict.

The only truth. Everything else here is just "patriots" denying reality.

And where do you think the public dissent and political issues came from? It was the ridiculous loss of life to an enemy that supposedly stood no chance. Nothing is more unpopular that a war you're losing.

Not biting junior.

>at the time no

No need to go full retard