In this election, the people have not gone crazy. The majority have cast their vote for Hillary Clinton. Like her or not, she is not a demagogue. She is not a tyrant. Indeed, she is the most qualified candidate for president in at least a generation. No elector could ever have had a good and sufficient reason to vote against her.
But because of the screwy way that electors are allocated, despite her winning the popular vote, she will lose the vote in the electoral college — if the electors, unthinkingly, simply followed the modern winner-take-all tradition for casting their votes (a rule not itself in the Constitution).
There is no reason — either morally or politically or constitutionally — that the electors need to create this crisis now. There is no reason they need to vote against the popular will. Each elector is free to vote his or her own conscience. In a republic — aka, a “representative democracy” — it would thus be completely justified for an elector to vote to assure that the will of the majority prevails in a presidential election.
tl;dr: Electors were meant to be circuit breakers, when democracy went nuts. Our democracy has not gone nuts. A majority voted for a perfectly sane and eminently qualified candidate for president. So too should the electors.
I get that many will respond — “hey, but that’s not our system.” Those “many” are just wrong. That is our system
In this election, the people have not gone crazy. The majority have cast their vote for Hillary Clinton...
And then the house approves the electoral vote.
You think they will approve a vote if 37 electors defect?
Idiot.
still regardless of where the votes come from the EC has a responsibility to administer the will of the people, the will of the people is that HRC be president as evidenced by the popular vote the EC should do its duty and insure the will of the people is followed
>The majority have cast their vote for Hillary Clinton.
You need to learn the difference between majority and plurality.
Complacency was the reason why Trump won. I'm sure there were a lot of Hillary supporters who didn't go cast a vote simply because they never thought this buffoon had a chance of winning no matter what. People didn't realize how dumb this country truly is.
its like you didnt read any of the emails at all. bitch is taking money from Muslim princes in the 100 million dollar range.
Complacency is why trump didn't win by a larger margin.
P.S. Nice work falling for liberal media. Enforcing immigration laws isn't racism.
I'm not american but explain me one thing, why was so bas when Trumph said that was not sure if accept Hilary as president and now that following your electoral rules he won You're the first to complain? Also checking Trumph declarations about the so called Obama-care I've eard words plenty different from what declared few months ago... I don't understand
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he's going to keep some of the good things like not letting insurance companies deny coverage to people with pre existing conditions. which is good.
>She is the most qualified
only qualifications needed are to be older than 35 and be born in the US. This is purposeful to make pretty much anyone president (spoiler: many presidents are war heroes, not politicians before).
>No elector could ever have had a good and sufficient reason to vote against her.
Corruption. Even if they're just accusations, it's enough as demonstrated by the polls.
>Our system is wrong
The point of the EC is to represent the States' wishes, even if that doesn't agree with the popular vote. The EC can vote however they want in December, but that has never happened, while the popular vote not aligning with the EC vote has happened already three times. Your circuit breaker analogy is false.
What do you mean "she will lose", she already has you shitposting faggot.
who the hell is paying someone to spam this copy pasta non stop?
Trump won. Stop trying to incite the sjw base.
>People didn't realize how dumb this country truly is.
>Complacent people didn't realize how dumb this country truly is.
>Because not voting is so fucking smart
Was what I was trying to say :)
Cut Trump some slack.
Obama wasn't really qualified for the job of president either. But he did a fuck of a good job considering the mess Dubya left and a full retard obstructionist congress.
Of course, on the other hand, Obama was brilliant, and president of the Harvard Law Review, while Trump was an ignorant bigot who inherited a fortune.
The shills are still here? Can't take a loss? Go fuck a tranny.
>Trump was an ignorant bigot who inherited a fortune.
He inherited nothing. He had a loan. Sure, it wasn't that small, but he inherited nothing.
That ignorant bigot who inherited a fortune turned the two party on its head in a mere 10 months.
I notice you never disputed the ignorant bigot part, are you ok with that?
Well, it is the ignorant bigot party, after all.
You fucking assholes.
I thought I could sleep knowing America had turned a new leaf and that we could reject all of the evils that infected our country. As kids I think most of us just took for granted that many of us didn't think that anything like this could happen that love and tolerance were just engrained into us in order to stop the cycle of hate. But I'm walking home from work and see a poor pregnant 13 year old girl just fiddling with her cell phone. And this is normal now because she knows she can't just get an abortion. The Trumpets made sure of that; the first thing they did was to storm the local Planned Parenthood and vandalize all the equipment and I heard the staff was so scared they just decided to close it down.
So that 13 year old girl I was talking about? Get ready to see more, you selfish pricks. Get ready to just walk past men in Trump hats raping women and you do nothing because you know the cops are just gonna wink at you and say Nice. Get ready to see black people beaten in broad daylight and innocent Muslims terrorized by our religious nutjobs. Get ready to have our schools teach our boys its okay to rape, and to teach our girls its okay to be objectified and even paid less on top of it. Get ready to be afraid of everyone you meet, because odds are half the people you see walking around want to rape or subjugate you.
Well, way to go you stupid ignorant pests. You won. Hope you feel good about yourselves. I'm literally shaking right now.
isnt the reason why the electoral college didn't elect clinton is that some states passed laws tying the electoral votes to the popular vote of that state, giving trump the win in this case. The problem is NOT the electoral college, the problem is certain states fucking with the electoral college.
Can you go out and get a loan of a million dollars? No? Ok so he inherited it because his rich ass dad gave it to him
>Well, it is the ignorant bigot party, after all.
That party came together in the end.
The Dem party has fractured as of now.
Pathetic
Actually if you factor in third part votes the majority of people voted against Hillary so fuck off
the fuck you think is going to happen? this isnt the fucking 1800's
In all honesty though, Trump is fairly socially liberal in comparison to the fucktards in his political party.
I would go as far to say he might me the most socially liberal conservative in the running.
His rhetoric during the elections was nothing like his usual stance on social issues through the 90's and 00's.
trump is our Liar Supreme, the dumb fucking cuck that voted for him are about to be ass reamed , dry, I am glad he won, not those whiny republitards got no one to blame for the shit hole they created
>Can you go out and get a loan of a million dollars? No? Ok so he inherited it because his rich ass dad gave it to him
You don't know what an inheritance is.
He got a 2 million dollar loan from his father and paid hm back.
If you use the word pathetic literally you're probably pathetic user
>to vote his or her own conscience
did you just gender define them? by the power of the libtards i call technorape. off to the skinny jean plantation with you
"After his father died in 1999, Trump and his siblings received equal portions of his father's estate valued at $250–300 million.[75]"
Are we still talking about this? Trump won. Get over it you fucking shill.
>the fuck you think is going to happen? this isnt the fucking 1800's
Day one. This is day one of Trump's America.
I was walking to the store to get some avocados for tonight with my wife, who happens to be a Hispanic woman with dwarfism. Up comes a Trump supporter with a MAGA hat, calling me low energy. He made fun of my wife saying she looked like a brown goblin. He told me what he was about to do was an act of love, and then beat and raped her in front of my eyes. I tried to stop him but I was too scared to make a move. He then grabbed me and flipped me upside-down, leaving me in the middle of the street on my head. Now, you may be wondering why I didn't just turn myself right-side up. This is because I am a turtlekin. I do not have the ability to flip myself just like turtles don't. Onlookers started calling the cops, and I was so thankful when they arrived, but not for long. They stuffed me in the back of the car and hauled me away. I tried explaining to them that I did nothing wrong, but they said I was now under investigation for collusion in the 9/11 attacks, directly ordered by Trump himself.
These acts of senseless violence cannot go on. We need to stay together and overcome this, even if it is a slow and steady process.
Didn't work for Gore. Won't work now.
What are you, stupid?
>If you use the word pathetic literally you're probably pathetic user
Sad
EC was created so that big states such as New York and California would not control the election. She had to win over the states, which she failed to do. Trump being President is the liberals fault for attempting to ram their ideology down people's throats and never actually leaving California or New York. Congrats, Hillary won the popular vote but Trump actually won the STATES like you are supposed to during an election.
they have never done that in history, but because trump go elected they should start now. this isnt the first time this has happened, that fact that it leaves you flabbergasted is indicative of your underage ban, mods can you remove this dude so we can make Sup Forums great again?
Inherit - receive or be left with (a situation, object, etc.) from a predecessor or former owner.
His father owned the money no? He RECEIVED it from his father no?
Trump fags will argue anything. Go suck his dick faggot
Market's doing great, Canada and Mexico already agreed to renegotiate trade, TPP DOA, illegals self-deporting.
Feels good, man.
He said behind his computer screen
He got a million and turned it into 8 billion.
If he got one hundred thousand, he would turn it into 800 million.
If he got ten thousand, he would turn it into 80 million.
If he got one thousand, he would turn it into 8 million.
If he got one hundred, he would turn it into 800 thousand.
If he got ten, he would turn it into 80 thousand.
If he got one, he would turn it into 8 thousand.
If I gave you one dollar, you'd probably lose it down the backside of a couch.
Trump is gonna be a good president
Obama screwed us over big time
Hilary would have had us bombed
Get over it
>Inherit - receive or be left with
His dad loaned him the money, he didn't give it to him as a gift or for free. Inheritance is referred to when a family member usually dies and someone inherits their assets which is not what happened here.
Loans get paid back.
Nobody is arguing his business skills user. You're so up Trump's ass you took a simple statement and turned it into anti-Trump fuel
>He said behind his computer screen
Wrong
my condolences sent to a sore loser sappy shill.
what would you call that time his father just dropped 3.3 million in his casino, the one ruled as an illegal loan and forced Trump to pay a fine of 65k and not return the money, and then still bankrupted the casino
Trump was already a billionaire by 1999. His father's inheritance is inconsequential.
actually you can get a loan of 1 million dollars.
source: im a business owner in the process of applying for one now. of course you have to prove that your business model will make money and return the investment and then some but it can be done.
Hey, shit happens user.
Should we cry about it on a Mongolian basket weaving website?
Keep telling yourself that user
CAN WE GET THIS MAN AN OSCAR? HOLY FUCK IVE NEVER LAUGHED SO HARD IN MY LIFE.
Irrelevant?
I am a liberal who is disgusted with how the Democratic voters performed. I am glad Trump won, despite not voting for him.
You could say Hillary was the loser... but she wasn't.
This faggot was. His own supporters fucked him and his ideals - gladly. He asked them for a Democratic President, Senate, and House. Then he would have power and influence - potentially more than a Jew Communist President would have.
Instead, they fucked him by voting for a third party loser or not even showing up. Now those bitches are protesting.
A proud Democrat and Liberal... and I support Donald Trump in his bid to make America great again.
I am, Trump is not a great business man
if he left his wealth in index stocks he would have over triple his current wealth, all other billionaires mock him
his wealth is a consequence of him being born into wealth, father giving him money and access to connections
My point being not many people can. Kudos to you tho faggot
Yes, i would like to do that
>CAN WE GET THIS MAN AN OSCAR? HOLY FUCK IVE NEVER LAUGHED SO HARD IN MY LIFE.
I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies.
We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there.
Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality.
I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness.
You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once.
It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake.
17 years ago he inherited money when he already had money you stupid fucking faggot.
I was just being an asshat about the
>he inherited nothing
They have a duty to the population of their state that they represent to vote in accordance to what the population of the state voted for. It's not up to the population in California to decide what the Texas vote should be, no matter how large a majority of them voted for Hillary over Trump.
you are the problem I am amazed you lnpw how to breath, he was given a million for shits and giggles by his living dad, he inherited the rest from his fathers estate, if he put the money his dad left him in a fund that tracked sP500 and spent his years finger painting with his feces he would be 4 times richer than he is and if he PAID HIS DEBTS he would be homeless and broke
He may not be "great" per-say, but the mother fucker has more money than i ever will
Funny how you all decry the electoral college when it doesn't go in your favor...
Here's a suggestion for you...
go actually read about why we have the electoral college, stop coloring and playing with playdoh and be a fucking adult for once in your miserable life...
You lost... she was a horrible candidate and you lost because she and your party treat 70% of the country like backwards rubes...
and he did something with that. Which makes him president and successful and you a lazy nigger faggot
>horrible candidate
>more people voted for her
>Trump isn't going to repeal Obamacare
>In a republic
>Our democracy
Make up your mind, pussy. Sounds like you're butthurt about the electoral college system while at the same time saying that it can be useful when your "team" doesn't win.
Fuck do you mongs even stop and read this retarded doublethink before you hit "post"?
Hahahahaha thanks for the laugh. Good for the soul
i aint no nigger
Fags like him or not, Trump is probably going to be our president. And if you're not going to give him your full support, why the fuck are you here?
>ok when they said it about Obama
>not cool when we say it about Drumpf
Ya that's a great idea. Put all my money in this stock and be homeless until I am 70 years old. Fuck employee tens of thousands of people along the way.
my point being that anyone can if you come up with a good business model, sorry youre not as an intelligent as me? i dont know what to say here roflmao.
OP doesn't even know we don't have a Democracy, we have a Representative Republic
It's sad that there are people that really believe this crap.
if hit wasn't for bankruptcy protections he would be homeless and broke
>probably
Cry harder, bitch.
>Obama wasn't really qualified for the job of president either.
Da fuq???
>gradates from Columbia & Harvard
>works as Civil Rights Attorney
>teaches Constitutional Law at University of Chicago
>serves 3 terms as Illinois Senator
Ya, people who disliked Obama went out into the cities rioting and causing trouble.
Seems legit.
Nigger wtf are you arguing? Nothing is ever OK. You people are so fucking stupid that you would rather divide a nation over a figure head than support the cuck who won and just count your losses. The world doesn't revolve around you user
>she is the most qualified candidate for president in at least a generation.
Was. Past tense. It's over.
Also she was being investigated by the FBI. And they reported that YES, she mishandled classified data. That's a no-go for a lot of people. It fails qualification.
Ur fuckin mongo americans who are soooo fucking stupid u deserve everything u get u fucking retards
he put far more people out of work by ruining their companies, by not paying his debts than he ever employed
There's still the December election faggot. Hil dawg could end up winning
People claim they don't like Trump because he has no Political Experience, but claim Obama in the best thing since racism. He had 3 months of political experience
>as opposed to admitting to conning Americans out of money, not paying employees and taxes
>vote democrap
>thinks he has any room to talk about morality
Yes... horrible candidate... but yet you fucking retarded mongs all got in line to fight WW3 agaist the Russians so she could make an attempt at creating her vaunted onw world order
You plebs are so ignorant you probably believe she actually gives a shit for LGBTQ issues...
News flash, she couldn't care less...
>he put far more people out of work by ruining their companies, by not paying his debts than he ever employed
SOURCE NIGGER.
>I am a turtlekin
THIS OPPRESSION MUST END
>I am literally shaking
Obama was an incredible speaker and you know why he won. We all do
what do you think money invested into stock does? not help companies afford projects that employ people?
The big lesson of this election is to get a good candidate and not hope that the other guy is so terrible no one will vote for him.
Take a deep breathe user. Nothing any of us says holds any merit