What is Sup Forumss opinion on the death penalty

What is Sup Forumss opinion on the death penalty

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Going through all that shit of tying them down etc is too much work.

Some crimes belong punished with public execution, either hanging or firing squad.

Good Ole Sparky.

burn baby burn

Leaning towards no, but don't have a very strong preference. Some people deserve to die, but some innocent people are killed. Also, lifetime in prison with no chance of getting free might be a bigger punishment than death.

Im for it to be honest fam. Its gotta be a crime that has zero doubt that the right person is being punished and if it has anything to do with child abuse or serial killers I say those are the prime canidates. Peter Scully is a great example of someone that should be put to death immediately. If not by capital punishment, then by putting him in a prison where the inmates will take care of it.

Anyone remember the movie Running Man?

Your tax dollars pay for them to be in prison, to be fed, be in gangs, get in trouble for petty shit like stealing top ramen or isolation and the guard that babysits them and so on and so fourth. Tax dollars could be used better elsewhere imo

If a prisoner is given a life sentence, that prisoner should be able to have the choice if he wishes to be in jail for the rest of his life, or be put down.

Trips of truth

All inmates should be forced to work 8 hours a day to cover the expenses.
It would also give them a skill they can put to use once they get out of prison so they aren't hopeless in the real world.

a death sentence costs way more than a lifetime in prison

Intentional death needs to be met with death with insurmountable evidence.

Also, this

I know. The electric company keeps increasing the rates!!

Nothing is scarier than dying...

Death penalty is for OP's

Whats your source? Are you fucking kidding me?
An actual death penalty case costs more to go through, but "Maintaining each death row prisoner costs taxpayers $90,000 more per year."

Theyre factoring in an inmate being on deathrow for 14years plus. It shouldnt take 14 years for a fucking child rapist/murder to be executed. 1-2 years tops

Im not an economist and im no lawyer nor am I educated in this. But my opinion; if someone is convicted of a horrid crime and would be better locked up in prison for the rest of their lives why fucking bother paying for it? One year to live, thats it

But then all that sweet slave labour would undercut every actual business and millions would be unemployed.

>and im no lawyer
All the (rights to) appeal and legal procedure involved have a significant associated cost

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mostly court costs

maybe they should just be more employable so they cant be replaced by inmates then

It's a moot point for a country where if someone walks on your lawn you're allowed to shoot them dead.

What we can conclude from this is lawyers are jews

Imagine your sent to death row and told even though you claim to be innocent in one year you will be executed. If you can't prove your innocence by then it's to late. In cases were people wait for a very long time some of the time they turn out to be inoccent. A lot of the time it's stalling. But sometimes it's not.

Death is the great leveller. It is freedom from pain, anguish, depression, and desire.

You'd have to be mad to choose a life in prison over a quick death.

I agree

For mass shooting cases like Anders Breivik. There is no doubt of his guilt and an entire nation has to suffer with the knowledge he is alive and well. It would be better to just put a bullet in his head and try to move on instead of seeing him in the news every year because he's upset his tea isnt hot enough.

Wow... Thats insane. I didnt know that; Thanks anons

Heinous crimes without a doubt. Im talking the Gacys, Geins, Rodriguez, Dahmers and degenerates like Peter Scully

who wouldn't like to either chose getting raped by tyrone or slammin some dude ass? no job, no bills.

I think it is stupid that it is so expensive and takes so long, and there are appeals to appeals like the person isn't fucking guilty or something. Fucking put a bullet through their skull and call it good. Saved hundreds of thousands of dollars right there.

Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me so hard

the liberal whiny bitches would say it isn't painless.

Bring back the gallows. Make it a deterant!!!

Its fine but the crazy liberals just passed a fast track law that only allows 5 years for appeals. The previous appeals process exonerated 10% of the people on death row because from new evidence or other reasons.

tl;dr liberals are not tolerant and are just sheep that do whatever their party tells them to do.

forgot to mention this is for california.

Sometimes innocent people are wrongly convicted and for that reason it's probably a bad idea.

In the future evidence will be more reliable, and we will hopefully stop relying on fallible human juries and instead our superior AI overlords can assess evidence and come to more objective conclusions. In that case, the death penalty for the most dangerous people should be re-introduced.

Your retarded you can't compete with free. Imagine your a factory owner but there's another factory who doesn't pay there workers. How do you compete with them? You stop paying your workers.

Every factory and construction job would be undercut. It could go higher convicts aren't stupid some could be management. Secretary's or if there trained in prison like 80% of all jobs if not higher.

This would be a fucking disgusting system we're people would be laid of by the millions and sent to prison to be slaves.

You didn't come up with a good idea to improve the prison system it was pretty narrow minded and ignorant. And will never be implemented.

10% of the people on death row have been exonerated because of that process kiddo. meaning they were completely innocent of any crime let alone something that would get you the death penalty.

Who pulls the trigger and how do you make them 100% accurate?

The liberal in me thinks that countries should not be in the business of killing their citizens. The conservative in me thinks they should make those fucks suffer as long as possible in a little room they can never leave. Both sides think government is too error prone to wield such power.

Narp.

if they got put in jail they aren't innocent

put cyanide in death row peoples food

wow that was hard

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Keep em for 10 years if they can't prove innocence kill em

There is a cost associated with training the inmates and there are a finite amount of them. You must also factor in the jobs which you would trust them to do.

Simple supply and demand would take care of the rest.

>the system is 100% accurate.
nigger are you fucking retarded? they were exonerated because they weren't guilty of any crime whatsoever. most of them were released due to new dna evidence.

Agreed. Some people say Pablo Escboar was executed with a gunshot to the head after he was disabled. If he was, whichever brave man did that did Colombia a far greater service than if he had been kept alive.

if there was no evidence of them being guilty they wouldn't be in jail

Air Force has to buy from lowest bidder by law. Lowest bidder for office furniture is some prison company that uses slave labor from inmates to cut costs.

> 100% bullshit
> "Hello, my name is Jimbo, I'm the felon that will be assisting you today"

Kill them all, let someone else sort them out

I hope you get wrongfully arrested for paedophilia then after you get beaten and raped in prison for years your constant appalling finally pays of and you cry in happiness so destroyed by the whole experience that you don't even remember what a stupid fucking prick you used to be.

you dont have any clue how a trial works. you can stop replying at any time.

And this is why the government shouldn't interfere with business. Fucking socialists.

stop with that libarel vs rebublican bullshit

OP didnt mention any country and that black/white either be with it or against iz bullshit is retarded

there is more than yes or no fucking americans

Crime should fit the punishment. Most of the time the death penalty isn't cruel enough for what a person has done. I'd rather they put the criminal in the middle of a stadium and let the crowd sort it out.

That includes sticking pedos out there to get raped by an entire stadium they affected. The punishment isn't going to be pretty;

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Many cannot re-assimilate in society, more due to public resistance than their own behavior.

Go in, present evidence, decide based on evidence

wow that was hard

if there is no evidence showing someone to be guilty they wont be found guilty

thats how a trial works

Goverments should not deal out death sentences.

Nobody should have that right. When people start justifying the death of other people you're going down a dark road we should not tread.

The chance of executing an innocent person is also too high. Life in American max-security prisons are already hell, you don't need further punishment, then we're just talking petty revenge.

>give them a skill
Nigga digging ditches is not a skill.

I wouldn't be arrested or charged without evidence showing me guilty. I'd be found not guilty due to insufficient evidence.

To be honest. Innocent people have been convicted only to be discovered innocent YEARS later, decades in a few instances on new evidence and technological advancements

>decide based on evidence
This is your problem right here: do you think everything is cut and dry?

It is overused in some jurisdictions, and should be reserved for only the clearest of cases with a habitual pattern of killing. People do make mistakes, and mistakes shouldn't be paid for with your life. Psychos who kill a number of people for their own purposes shouldn't be kept alive in solitary at a cost of several hundred thousand dollars per year. That's just an inefficient use of resources.

Completely right except for one important point
>And will never be implemented.

unpaid forced labour in prisons is already widespread in America. And I'm not talking about prisoners cooking and cleaning in the prison. I'm talking about industries like furniture manufacturing, mining, and - I shit you not - cotton farming.

Well, I say unpaid - they generally get like 20 cents an hour so the companies using them can pretend they're not using slaves.

>This would be a fucking disgusting system were people would be laid of by the millions and sent to prison to be slaves.
I have two facts for you. Firstly, the number of good jobs for blue collar workers in America have collapsed. Secondly, America has the largest prison population in the world - more than three million people

draw your own conclusions.

>decide based on evidence
No they decide based on which Jew lawyer is better at convincing a jury of 12 retards.

I believe cutting hair is actually a common taught skill in prison, making license plates and ofcourse.. Sellin' ass

What about women who have falsely accused men of rape?

In many cases their false witnessing counts as evidence.

Are you saying that's impossible in your perfect black-and-white world?

you can be convicted without any real evidence its all in who does a better job convincing the jury. You are ignorant as fuck as well. I jsut told you they exonerated 10% of the people on death row from mostly dna evidence. 10 fucking percent. that is a failure rate that should never be accepted when you are going to take someones life.

you can't possibly be this naive

It's insane. And is just slave labour. Slave labour is a bad idea. Plus how can they get a job from it if there all gone because they got undercut by the prison slaves. Providing some trade training is good a lot of prisons do this but to make prisoners work as tradesmen for free is insane.

> thinks they never wrongfully convict
> thinks DA never wins bluff cases
> thinks the judge never buys them
> thinks there aren't people sitting in little rooms right now that didn't do jack shit

You've never experienced any part of the system from any side, outside watching "Cops" a couple times, right?

reading this legitimately made me feel sick.

against it, except for Donald Trump and anyone who voted for/supported him. I'd happily push you all into a big pit, light you on fire and then piss on your corpses.

Does she have evidence? No? Alright then, have a nice day.

>Slave labour is a bad idea
If they have committed a crime some would see it a fitting punishment.

> undercut by the prison slaves
Then they should seek to be more employable than prison slaves.

Almost the same thing is about to start happening right now, just replace "prison slaves" with "automation".

Kek, you dumb faggot.

I'm not a criminal, so no I haven't been to jail.

mad?

you probably never go outside either so your safe. but some people enjoy experiencing what the world is like outside of the internet.

Death is a reward not a punishment. Being raped for the rest of your life in jail is punishment

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

3-4x more expensive than life sentence
proven to not deter crime
morally equivalent to murder

completely retarded in all aspects

And what crimes in your view would warrant such a punishment?

Screw the death penalty. Use them for medical research. Families of the victims get a percentage of the profits from the research.

Automation is going to wreck the economy. Well, continue to wreck it.

Your advocating for slave labor as something to be competed against is asinine. Surely you're trolling, Mr Feynman.

satan has spoken

Can easily be made exponentially cheaper if people weren't so fucking whiny about it.

Really not true. Robots can't attempt complex tasks for many years to come prisoners can.

How can you be more employable than a slave? There fucking free

Nor are you a lawyer, paralegal, police officer, anyone else with a job anywhere near the legal system, not to mention capable of passing an IQ test with a greater score than 70. But, hey, that's a D, right?

Hate speech! Stop that your hurting my feelings you hypocrite. I'm reporting you to my imam you weird dog headed cunt

*Can easily be made exponentially cheaper if people stop caring about the government murdering innocent people

One persons word versus another should never be enough to put someone in prison. I hope he gets to sue her now and put her in prison.

>Automation is going to wreck the economy
Citation needed. Speculation is not fact.

>Your advocating for slave labor as something to be competed against is asinine
Give me a good argument to the contrary then?

I don't know, by having superior skills for the job? It's not that hard they're an inmate.

The fucking communists on this board I swear.

I think we should only use it for serious violent crimes and certain repeat offenders. Anyone who commits rape, and anything underage should get the chair.

At the same time though they really need to speed the time up on the killings I think California does one every 5 years and there's tons of death row inmates. Once you get sentence they should kill you no later than 1 year

death sentence costs more with all the trials and court hearings

I've often thought this. Life sentence is pretty fucked up already. Why not leave it at that with an option for death

let me put it this way. If you've lived at all you will eventually be in the wrong place at the wrong time. its happened to me when my car ran out of gas. I was arrested and jailed for matching the description of someone that had just assaulted a cop and got away. I'm white by the way and just on the way home from work. California is a different world than where ever you come from.

Its fake user. This isnt the 1885

The death penalty should be abolished.


It's evil to end a mans life, the only life he will ever have, because he's inconveniencing you or the society by being a rapist, or whatever.

You can make them work until they're dead. They can build houses for the homeless, farm food for the hungry. At least it'll give their lives purpose.

This whole thread is a waste of time. What we should be discussing is how to end all of humanity and Sup Forumstards being the last to see the end.

Robots can do shit you wouldn't believe.

Should be used for all crimes