How do you guys think the Chinese are going to lead the world in the next 20 year...

How do you guys think the Chinese are going to lead the world in the next 20 year? Are they going to be pacifist traders (like USA) or genocidal expansionists (like britain)?

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All I can say is if China does start leading the world you guys are going to beg and cry thinking about how good you had it under the USA.

Have you ever considered killing yourself?

this really, and even moreso in regards to Russia

I can't wait for China to start taking over. USA can finally stop being world police and become isolationist like we once were

>pacifist traders (like USA)

Good one

They will probably become increasingly imperialistic.

But it won't affect the Netherlands either way.

Once they get a democratic government, a writing system and language that are reasonably easy to learn, and...sorry, it's not happening.

>pacifist traders (like USA)

USA was literally the first democratic superpower to exist. Also, most people didn't even know how to write when britain and france dominated the world.

This.

The countries that became superpowers were usually ones with a strong tradition of liberalism and capitalism. They also tended to be seafaring nations. Land-based powers have not generally met these criteria.

Essentially, you need cultural, diplomatic, military, and economic strength. Japan ended up not being the next big thing the way people in the 1980s thought, because they met only one of those qualifications. The Soviet Union also was only strong on the military front, while being deficient in the other areas (especially economic strength).

>Are they going to be pacifist traders (like USA) or genocidal expansionists (like britain)?

You cannot have culture when the CCP relentlessly stamps out any cultural expression they do not approve of.

Maybe if your culture is a New World one (the most fragile in the world).

There's only ever been 2 superpowers, Murrica and USSR, so there's as much statistic support for land based communism as the requisite for superpowerness as there's for the seafaring freedom loving blahblah one.

Actually, 2:1 more statistic support for the land-based commies because China is knocking on the door, and from a political organization pov they're still commies.

eh? it's not that bad now. at least they don't limit art to socialist realism and people surrounding Mao Zedong in awe while holding red books.

>There's only ever been 2 superpowers, Murrica and USSR
b-b-but muh empire

>There's only ever been 2 superpowers

Superpower means motherfucker nigga with a truly global reach. The Roman Empire was not a superpower. Neither the Abbasid. And etc. Great powers yes, superpowers 'no'.

That's a thing of the 20th century, Tyrone.

Britain, France, Spain, Portugal, even the Dutch all had global reach.

No but media in China is still horrendously censored. There are a million subjects you're not allowed to show and media must promote patriotism and social harmony.

retard

Global reach also means you can go around and cuck anyone anywhere.

None of the above could do that.

Like the French did to the Brits in America?

>Britain didn't cuck half the globe at some point

I heard that only 10% of all the nations in the world have never had a British army on their soil at some point.

Reverse that.

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They could only cucked niggas and indians.

Could they cuck France, Germany, Russia, USA, China, etc?

I mean on their own ofc.

>USA
How do your like your White House? A little bit toasty or burnt the fuck down?

Why on their own? The USA and the Soviets were the strongest superpowers in history because of their alliances.

no, you will also pleasure the taste of having politicans bought by foreign powers, or having them installed by force

bon appetit!

USSR allowed women to vote before the US.

>This delusion

USA leads the world: An amoral pack of billionaire profiteers undermine a democracy to try and fuck the world, but mostly just fuck their own country. Luckily I live in Canada and those assholes have no direct influence on our laws or my rights.

China leads the world: An amoral pack of billionaire profiteers undermine communism to try and fuck the world, but mostly just fuck their own country. Luckily I live in Canada and those assholes have no direct influence on our laws or my rights.

>those assholes have no direct influence on our laws or my rights.

Now that is some nice delusion.

>Luckily I live in Canada and those assholes have no direct influence on our laws or my rights
Don't be so silly. Half of your country is an honorary Han colony and will join the Sino-Korean hyperstate. The other half will be governed by Honourable Sikh Coalition and will mostly be free of Mongoloid influence.

Anyone remember those Confucius Institutes which turned out to be nothing more than vehicles to promote CCP propaganda on college campuses?

You know during the cold war they could potentially take on anyone except each other. The whole cold war system was an architecture build upon a dual-superpower international system.

>inb4Vietnam

As much as I loved the fatties getting rekt there, it was only because they were unwilling to commit to it anymore. There's no doubt 1v1 USA could potentially invade Vietnam any day of the week.

>As much as I loved the fatties getting rekt there

How the fuck old are you?

So WW2 Germany was a superpower?

The FBI and other federal level criminal investigators can enter Canada and conduct investigations on our soil. Harper signed it.

Dief-"the chief"-enbaker caved to American influence and canceled the Avro Arrow project because a futuristic mach-2 nuclear payload fighter jet scared the bronze age American Airforce shitless.

Fuckin' decades and decades of petroleum, softwood lumber, diamond, auto part, and biomedicine talks and disputes that always end up shafting us in the long run.

Americans can and do influence our laws. You're a retard who lives in a bubble.

China literally has zero (0) cultural projection on an international level.

Japan has some, Korea has some, even fucking Russia has some (mostly thanks to their pre-commie days), but China has literally none whatsoever. For example, in the USA Japanese is still a more popular foreign language than Mandarin. English will never be replaced; China only gets more Americanized and more anglified by the day, whereas absolutely nobody in the world outside East Asia and SEA is getting more sinified with time.

For all of these reasons, I really have a hard time believing in the "superpooper by 2030!" maymay. A global hegemon having zero (0) cultural projection is pretty much unheard of in history.

china isnt going to lead shit. we have so many problems right now. usa still will have most global power for atleast a few decades. dont worry, all u guys are in good hands under usa.

Kek, not that much, I guess I worded it badly.

Could have been one in time. They lacked the global reach part because they didn't have significant projection power.

Sort of Roman Empire with panzers.

Go to Vancouver and see how much Chinese culture has influenced it.

>even fucking Russia has some (mostly thanks to their pre-commie days)

Russia has CP, dashcam vids, and Yoba/chicken proofs memes. It's not much, but it's something. :^)

Then again, Chinese culture can flourish there only because it's free of CCP censorship.

I'm not sure where you're getting this idea that censorship makes cultural expansion impossible. From the early 1930s to 1968 Hollywood was very strictly censored and regulated and yet had a huge influence around the world.

That wasn't state/government censorship, it was self-censorship the industry all agreed on.

It has an ethnic enclave of Chinese people, and a few white people who sometimes buy bubble tea or """""""""""""""""Chinese""""""""""""""""" food.

That's not cultural projection, nor is it cultural influence. Even Vancouver is still thoroughly western. Not only that, but I'd argue that Japanese culture has more influence in Vancouver than Chinese culture.

I was talking more about Pushkin, Dostoyevsky, etc.

And ?
The Hays Code censored films very similarly to how the Chinese government does it now. Everything had to be patriotic and promote positive culture. And yet Hollywood movies were still a huge American cultural export in that time period.

The mid-20th century was a peculiar era when Americans embraced statism, thankfully the baby boomers returned everything to normal.

A global hegemon is unheard of too. Even so, cultural outreach wouldn't matter one single fuck to be classified as such. It's just power what matters. Aliens could come tomorrow cuck the world with laser guns and leave you leaf alone in your room crying 'b-but you don't have cultural outreach, aliens!!1'

Also, chinese culture does have a global impact already. Just take a look at the food you everyday and the shops around, leaf. Was it like that 30 yrs ago?

Culture isn't just in the format of language and hollywood movies. Though the chinese don't care much about gaijin culture and keep to their own, so they probably wouldn't want to proselityze theirs to the pesky gaijin.

chinese culture is shit. nobody cares about it, it is just forced chinese actors in american movies.

>Though the chinese don't care much about gaijin culture and keep to their own,

Wait a minute. China literally has a system of government created by Russians and based on a book written by a self-hating German Jew.

Chinese culture as seen in China is also just a pastiche version created by the CCP. Other than that, it doesn't exist anymore; the Cultural Revolution took care of that.

>Though the chinese don't care much about gaijin culture and keep to their own
way to discredit your entire post in a single sentence

>A global hegemon is unheard of too.
the same applies to any sort of greap power

If you look at all of the various empires/countries which were the greatest power in their sphere of the world at some point, they all had cultural projection over that sphere. China of course has a lot of cultural projection over the East Asian and SEA spheres, but on an international level very little, unlike the UK in the 19th century and the USA in the 20th century.

And they also fly planes based on russian designs. But only after chinify them. Just like Mao did with the german-jew book.

Chinese culture tends to be ultra-chauvinistic and view themselves as the center of the world and nothing of importance happens outside it. It's mostly because their culture developed in isolation without any contact with other advanced civilizations. They consider the rest of mankind just annoying barbarians out to give them problems (but occasionally have useful technology they can borrow).

They do their thing. If you take it, you take it. But they're not going to seduce you with marketing tricks or promote you china-cola to you under the guise that it tastes like Freedom and you should strive to embrace the chinese cultural abstractions.

They're not interested in any of that. Only in the profit. Just take a look at their business in Africa. They're not selling the Chinese dream to the locals there.

Strictly speaking, no, China claims to not promote any ideology in particular, but the CCP's sympathies obviously lay on the side of authoritarian governments, though they won't come out and say it; they were spooked when communism fell in 1989-91 and to this day party officials are required to study the collapse of the Soviet Union and how they can avoid a repeat.

>view themselves as the center of the world and nothing of importance happens outside it

Americans are absolutely the same if not worse.

You're completely sidestepping my entire post and just coming up with excuses, and basically being as ridiculous as OP was with his "pacifist traders" line.

Western culture is just as chauvinistic, with the difference that it's expansive. Our ways are the best and we want others to embrace them.

But in China the great wall is also metaphorical. Our ways are the best and we want others to fuck off. A foreigner trying to assimilate to the chinese ways would be met with contempt or even with offense. How dare you, silly hairy dirty gaijin!

In general that also applies, probably to a lesser degree, to the rest of asians.

Then again, Vietnam has been resisting Sinicization for 1500 years.

I agree to this. The prosperity we have today comes from the view the USA has of the world. The belief that free trade will make every country better over time. China doesnt think like this. For them economy is a zero sum game. For someone to win, someone else has to lose.

Chinks dont care about "leading the world"

they're looking after themselves

and their own collective interests, as they should.

And for now their priorities involve pacifying east asia of western military occupation and preventing their further goepolitical influences.

this

>And for now their priorities involve pacifying east asia of western military occupation and preventing their further goepolitical influences

Gonna have to get better weapons than shitty clones of 1970s Soviet equipment then.

Why do they need "better weapons"?

USA is falling out of the game any ways.

What they have right now is sufficient enough

Not to mention that the PLA is nightmarishly corrupt and is mostly a giant money-making racket for the officers.

so it's just like the US military that doesnt serve "the country" but instead the global bank cartels and corporations?


I hear you dont like competition...murka

Take off that proxy, Zhang. You're not fooling anyone.

>white house made of stone
>"burnt the fuck down"
LOL salty brit in korea

reality was US sacked toronoto and then burnt it down. Brits wanted to do the same but the first lady and the residents left with all the valuables before Britain got to the white house so they decided to use fuel to burn the white house (never burned it down btw).

The outer walls were left standing, the inside was gutted.

Most of your ancient culture was destroyed by the commies. How the fuck was this allowed?

>Britain was a giant chinaboo in its peak
Cultural projection comes after economic and military power

The USA was the major economy 30 years before assuming global leadership.

>Cultural projection comes after economic and military power

China however has none of those; their per capita GDP is under $10,000.

They're going to turn us into bile bears.

>look up bile bears
[vomits externally]

Bear bile farming is mainly practiced in China and Vietnam; although it is illegal in the latter country, bile farms still persist.

>Implying china is already a superpower and should have them

Its not happening soon, doesnt mean it wont happen while you're busy dealing with niggers and faggots

Back to culture, literally no foreigner give any shits about ancient cultures. Anime, kpop, hollywood, video games modern inventions that at have barely anything to do with historic identity. Whatever links it does have with historical identity is rarely taken seriously by foreigners.

Modern culture can be created by anyone, and then can be exported if a country is wealthy and politically influencial enough.

>while you're busy dealing with niggers and faggots
>flag

Really makes you think...

Chinese culture just can't compete with Western culture on a number of levels; it's not a culture or mode of thinking that's adapted to a globalized world.

Genocidal expansionists in shitholes + pacifist traders with non-shitholes

Essentially the same as the US.

>No but media in China is still horrendously censored. There are a million subjects you're not allowed to show and media must promote patriotism and social harmony

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Nah there was (still is) a Federal morals censor in the United States that controls movie/tv content

I don't know, but I sure do plan to get rich with the new overlords.

I care about it.

>created
Ahh yes the 1.45 billion Chinese have no say in their own culture

>Communist Vietnam

>this CIDF member in Spain
wew

China has been isolationist for 10 000 years. Why would they take over?

There's no government regulation of content anymore except public broadcasting.

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>completely chauvanstic view of themselves
>says the bloody USA

>pacifist traders (like USA)

If it helps, I've seen this troll in China threads before.

>pacifist traders (like USA)

>Vietnam
>resisting sinicization for 1500 years
>literally ruled by a Chinese LARP state from 200-700, language based on south Chinese language, used chinese writing system until 1900's, follow fucking Chinese buddhism, all traditional cultural buildings in North Vietnam literally copied centimeter by centimeter from China
LOVING EVERY LAUGH LMAO

That's not what you claimed shart

The USA heavily censored EVERYTHING 1920's-1960's, and yet that's when American culture became dominant.

The reality is that American cultural dominance followed American political/military dominance.

>troll
>CIDF

I could be Xi Jinping. Does that change the facts you fucking Sup Forumsshitposters?