>live in a stone age hunter gatherer society >enslaved and shipped to another continent >in slavery for generations, destroying the little culture they had >after slavery ends, massive discrimination and segregation >"hurr why cant black people pull themselves up by their bootstraps?"
Why are white Americans so racist towards their black countrymen?
>enslaved and shipped to another continent You mean shipped to another continent and then enslaved?
>destroying the little culture they had But Africans still have culture, just not African Americans.
>"hurr why cant black people pull themselves up by their bootstraps?" Seems like a simple enough question to answer.
Michael Nguyen
>been in america since 18th century >first generation german immigrants order them to "go back to africa" ????
Ian Davis
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Brody Price
africans were enslaving each others when the colonialists arrived dumb fucking kraut
Nolan Nelson
This African Americans have more right to be in USA than most white people
Josiah Wright
>live in a stone age hunter gatherer society >enslaved and shipped to another continent
Looks like they are biologically destined to be slaves
Mason Lee
You mistyped "Sold into slavery by my people"
Gavin Peterson
>African Americans have more right to be in USA than most white people Thats not even close to what he said.
Samuel Ward
But what about all the modern successful countries that were built without slavery?
Makes you think...
Jack Mitchell
This, if the white man had left the Africans alone, they would have thrived and achieved prosperous, advanced societies. Just look at Liberia and Ethiopia.
Michael Perry
someone edit that so the white guy says sure and offers his hand but as hes pulling the guy up some ghetto nigga pulls the black guy down like a crab
Grayson Wilson
The US without blacks would be Australia tier, heaven on earth. They need to go back for the sake of the country.
Jason Jenkins
>live in a stone age hunter gatherer society >after slavery ends, get access to 1st world infrastructure and schools >better of than Africans in every way. >Still fail massively
Angel Nelson
Well, maybe then you shouldnt have brought them to america, enslaved them and segregated them ever thought about that?
Nathan Martin
We didn't, most slave traders were Brits/Portuguese
Lincoln Taylor
>You mean shipped to another continent and then enslaved? They were enslaved in Africa and sold to Europeans as slaves.
David Baker
This is a fair point. It would be fair to say the south was built on slavery, but everywhere else was built on industrialists and homesteaders, most of whom opposed slavery, even if they didn't want to take blacks into their backyards.
Ian Gonzalez
Ask Thomas Sowell
Noah Davis
those evil Brits/Portuguese, illegaly dumping blacks in America, and forcing the innocent Americans to treat them like slaves. Even centuries later, forcing them to segregate blacks
Juan Powell
If you have a cellphone and you don't need it anymore because it's no more useful do you keep it or do you trash it?
Hudson Brooks
This
William Baker
cellphone is not a person
Connor Gutierrez
America didn't exist when 99% of slaves came to the US. Most plantation owners were descendants of minor British nobility.
Xavier Smith
Sure thing, Europe is actually not total shit unlike Black Africa.
Angel Jenkins
>pay overdue bill Why are SOME people so obsessed with not working? And furthermore, taking money from people who do?
SOME people are very vindictive and envious. Really makes you think about why God hasnt blessed them.
Isaac Sanchez
cool Federal Republic of Germany didnt exist when 100% genocides were commited by Nazis Guess we are innocent after all
Leo Smith
Neither are niggers
Nicholas Reed
Sure, no one but Germans believes that you should be collectively guilty
Sebastian Lee
No one said you weren't besides your perpetual guilt
It was 80 years ago it's okay now
Isaac Miller
There is nothing in historical oppression that is encoded in your DNA. That's why groups of people from (almost) every culture and background here can make a jump to prosperity in a generation or two.
There are only two explanations as to why this group of people in particular have failed to get anywhere for this long a time: a seriously poisonous and detrimental culture, or they're stupid.
Gavin Harris
>commit crimes >rename your country >"sorry guys, that wasnt us, no responsibility"
Alexander Turner
>Guess we are innocent after all Yeah, you're fucking right you aren't guilty. Germans are the only ones who think Germans today deserve to be punished for the crimes of their grandfathers. In the West, we don't punish people for the sins of their grandparents. The only people that do that are literally North Koreans.
Luis Perez
If you didn't personally commit the crime, you aren't guilty. Stop being a faggot.
Ayden Kelly
also, this is literally New Money: The Country. 85% of millionaires are first gen. The idea of nobility and class are almost nonexistent. There is no excuse.
Adrian Allen
aut-right needs some drawing lessons
Andrew Harris
>Many years pass >No longer related to the people who might have done something wrong >People died because of war, Bombing of Dresden wasn't exactly civil either
>"PLS WE'RE SO SORRY PLESSE we'll TAKE ALL REFUGEES PLZ"
Jose Morris
You're so detached from the crimes against humanity. not only did you not commit the crimes, but you didn't rename the country. You probably weren't even alive for the reunification of your country.
Not only that, but Germany does not benefit in any way from the Holocaust and WW2. The main argument for Americans feeling guilty is that we, in an indirect way, benefit from slavery having happened (a dubious claim in some regards).
Bentley Sanchez
Fuck, no it wouldn't. The problem with America isn't niggers, it's Americans. Your people and values, regardless of colour, are cancer. Wall up your boarders already so the rest of the world doesn't have to put up with your shit.
Josiah Mitchell
imagine this >you invest money in another country >the country suddenly renames itself >tells you "sorry, but we are a different country now, we dont owe you money"
Luis Sanchez
african americans are the goat people . fuck the edgy Sup Forums faggots
Julian James
>Your people and values, regardless of colour, are cancer. Sure thing Zhang, Democracy, Free market, and Secular government are totally cancerous.
Logan Scott
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Noah Russell
Blacks have the same chances as the white man. The black man lives in a ghetto because he prefers to make money with welfare and crime instead of honest work.
Lincoln Watson
This analogy is totally off-base. It simply doesn't connect.
Nathan Price
that's... Not the same thing, at all.
Elijah Thomas
How is asking someone to find their own way in life 'reverse racism'. It's almost like the author of this cartoon doesn't even know what 'reverse racism' is.
Juan Reyes
Wtf I love African Americans now
Robert Thomas
so you are responsible for the debts of your predecessor state, but not its crimes? Imagine a state steals property of a minority group, then renames itself and says "sorry, not our crimes, we dont have to give back anything"
Brody Morgan
>Not only that, but Germany does not benefit in any way from the Holocaust and WW2.
Except for getting all their denbts forgiven, their continental enemies lying in ruins along with their colonial empires, Marshall plan, no reparations and security provided by the US so they didn't have to spend on military.
Grayson Ramirez
> saves europe ass in WW1 > saves it again in WW2 > brings capitalism in Europe defending it from the communism > beats Russia in the cold war > first world power >"Hurr durr fuk murica it is the cause of every problem without murica we would be better"
Why the fuck so much hate on America and Americans?
Cooper Lewis
Funny you say that, because 100 years ago, people told the same about Finns
Juan Wright
>german flag
Jacob Reyes
that analogy doesnt really work, besides it would be more like
>you invest money in another country >the country's government changes after a war/rebellion/coup/etc, where the current government has no connection to previous one >new government refuses to honor agreements of previous government
Levi Collins
t; German war reparations.
Alexander Ramirez
>Except for getting all their denbts forgiven not true
Jason White
>There are around two hundred countries >Blacks aren't a privileged group in ANY of them
Julian Edwards
we payed those back
Ethan Mitchell
People come to Americkkka from literal modern day slavery.
Are imprisoned like Africans.
And still become independently wealth people.
There is no excuse in history for why you're not sucessful.
Luke Hill
Yeah, but all the property was destroyed and/or taken back and you had less than you started with as a direct consequence of WW2 and the holocaust. Nonetheless, you funded reparations, as I agree you should have. Now you self-flagellate because, despite the fact that all these crimes were paid back for and more and none of the people involved are alive, you somehow deserve to feel guilty. Your country has given back so much and you personally, you, as an individual, have nothing to do with it in the first place. It's time to move on. You're like a girl who's crying over an abusive relationship ten years later even though the guy's in jail.
>Except for getting all their denbts forgiven They payed their debts with interest.
>their continental enemies lying in ruins along with their colonial empires All these countries were rebuilt except for the ones stuck in the iron curtain which are now benefiting from German investment.
>Marshall plan The US benefited from that greatly.
>no reparations and security provided by the US so they didn't have to spend on military. This I agree with, fuck this.
Zachary Kelly
No you didn't.
Blake Flores
We have no slaves at home – Then why abroad? Slaves cannot breathe in England; if their lungs Receive our air, that moment they are free. They touch our country, and their shackles fall. That's noble, and bespeaks a nation proud. And jealous of the blessing. Spread it then, And let it circulate through every vein.
William Reed
Try something more like this: >you invest money in another country >other country pays back with a big fat sorry note >the country's government changes after a war/rebellion/coup/etc, where the current government has no connection to previous one >country's new government continues to self-flagellate and self-damage
Joshua Reyes
>liberia >an African American colony Even when they went back to Africa they couldn't make it work. Is there just something about Africa that makes a successful society difficult/impossible? (inb4 "Africans")
Logan Brooks
They payed both the WW1 and WW2 war reparations back.
Xavier Wilson
You know, I'd believe everything about systemic racism and stuff, but why on earth are Blacks killing each other so much? Why are they abusing drugs? Why are they shitty parents? Who else can you possibly blame for this but Blacks themselves?
It has nothing to do with poverty, nobody is forcing you to take drugs if you're poor. I think the misery of the blacks in the US is 95% self inflicted, and if they overcame this 95%, whites would help them with the remaining 5% - but as long as they don't, fuck them. And of course let police clamp down on black crime.
William Walker
No they didn't.
Isaiah Hernandez
Ok, not the WW1 ones.
Cameron Gomez
>a massive discrimination and segregation >>"hurr why cant black people pull themselves up by their bootstraps?" Who are the Irish, Italians, Jews, Chinese, Japanese, etc.
Everyone else pulled themselves out of the gutter.
Hudson Johnson
because people like OP keep telling them it's not their responsibility to build one, but our job to stop "oppressing" them
Aaron Garcia
Left to their own devices blacks would be eating raw meat under bushes right now.
Nathan Parker
irish immigrants were hated when they first started coming over
they weren't even considered white, but they're doing fine now
Samuel Bailey
yes we did
Nolan Adams
Its not about guilt, its about responsibility and learning from past mistakes. Nazis Germany will always a part of our history, and we should never forget how easily a populist can come to power and lead a country into a total war
>All these countries were rebuilt except for the ones stuck in the iron curtain which are now benefiting from German investment. Where is Britain's colonial empire? France's? Those countries used to be far more influential pre-WW2. The countries in question got rebuilt. Their influence? Not really. Also, Germans are directly responsible for allowing Russians to steamroll through Eastern Europe unopposed and now they are making profit from those lands after they bought everything worth salvaging after communism fell
>Marshall plan >US benefited And germs
Sure, Germans being falgellating cucks is annoying because now they took it into the other extreme and we in EE would be grateful if Germs concentrated on paying those who they actually hurt instead of niggers and ackbars from ME whom they have nothing to do with.
Grayson Perry
You aren't responsible. That's just a positive form of guilt.
But otherwise, sounds good. Learn from your past mistakes and try not to make any current mistakes as you whiplash the other direction.
Thomas Johnson
>but why on earth are Blacks killing each other so much? Why are they abusing drugs? Why are they shitty parents? because they have no culture. They went from stone age people to slaves to opressed minorities Culture takes generations to develop. And I think America should help their black population to develop a productive culture.
Eli White
They weren't segregated and denied voting rights though
Joshua Rodriguez
>They weren't segregated Highly debatable.
Isaac Gomez
>I think America should help their black population to develop a productive culture. I do and don't agree with this. Blacks had more of a culture in the 70's than they do now. A lot of that has to do with the dissolution of the black family unity and another lot has to do with the war on drugs imprisoning so many of them. But I digress, they don't want our help with that. We did that by using Christianity. That worked for a while, but the family needs to uphold it.
Hunter Richardson
>should help their black population to develop a productive culture
That's what was happening before democrats fucked it all up with gibs
Kayden Stewart
>live in a stone age hunter gatherer society except ~90% of african slaves brought to the new world were the slaves or prisoners of the kingdoms of west africa, not exactly stone age to be fair, irish discrimination had a much shorter span, especially outside of the british isles in 30 or so years they went from not being accepted basically anywhere to becoming a large portion of american politics (see: Tammany Hall) and extremely abundant in the public sector (cops, firefighters etc) it took like 200 years and a civil war before africans were treated as not slaves in the US
Blake Thompson
You can call de facto segregation the same as the blacks up north then too. The difference though was the Irish patronized each other in the police force to get around the lack of work while blacks were prevented from everything that didn't treat them as expendable property
Anthony Carter
>A lot of that has to do with the dissolution of the black family unity Why did that happen?
Brayden Howard
>>live in a stone age hunter gatherer society Nobody should have responded to this post after reading this because it's an obvious give away this is bait. Africans were chosen as slaves because they had enough civilization to be farmers, they didn't need to be taught that much.
Adam Carter
Wait are you telling me the reason they didn't take whatever natives that survived smallpox as slaves was because they couldn't farm?
Justin Edwards
Personally, the strongest argument I've heard was this But I think the alternate argument is that the war on drugs did it. I'm not sure either argument sums it up in totality. There was definitely a strong correlation between gibs and single motherhood because fatherhood was de-necessitated. But there also used to be more Christian conservative black culture in general that people like Bill Cosby were really vocal about wanting to protect. Young people from good backgrounds too, it would seem, were taken in by the buglight that is drug crime culture. But I'm not an expert. People give a lot of different reasons.
Easton Walker
>because they have no culture.
Trivially so. Everything is culture. Only blacks themselves can fix their own culture - the cultured blacks will thrive/survive, the uncultured blacks will waste away. Natural selection always fixes everything.
However, if you subsidize the uncultured blacks with welfare, you take away the pressure to adapt, and without it nothing will ever get solved.
Jacob Nelson
Oh yes, please tell me how a white northerner who grew up in poverty such as myself has benefited from this racism.
Please do go on.
Jason Robinson
Cultural changes that removed some of the stigma against having children out of wedlock. Used to be parents would be more strict and make people marry and no matter how shitty the relationship was they'd not divorce. Of course, not universally true just more of a general trend. Today, 66% of black households are single parent compared to 25% of white ones. Asian households are only 16% single parent, Latino are 42%.
Asher Campbell
There weren't enough natives left, and the natives knew how to survive in the local geography so it was easier for them to run away and live off the land. Africans knew how to farm, had a large population, and didn't know how to live off the land in the Americas so they were less likely to run away.
Adrian Perez
>Culture takes generations to develop.
also, this is untrue, you can copy it within a few years
Isaac Ross
>OP is clearly bating >people actually respond to it because they want to believe he's being serious because they want to believe people who disagree with them actually think like this
Chase Bell
No you didn't
Daniel Wright
>Democracy and Secular Government are American concepts Howling
James Foster
>>"hurr why cant black people pull themselves up by their bootstraps?" Because the median IQ of black Americans is ~82, which is borderline retarded.
Matthew Young
No, but they are American values, much like how Brits value muh empire
Mason Powell
Also the US was the first country in history to have no state religion
Owen Brooks
>one country under God Hmmmm
Jordan Wilson
A lot of jobs don't require median IQ so world built.