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He's right.

Communism is retarded and if you're unironically a communist you should unironically kill yourself.

More than a century of complex philosophical works completely blown the fuck out in just NINE WORDS...

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I know right? And it only takes one for lolbertarians.

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>the state owns everything
>you own nothing

>b..but no inequality right, and everyone is equal???

>literally government has authority over you, because they're taking away your property and redistributing shit.

are communists retards?

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god, I love this meme

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kek communist efficiency

communism doesn't mean you can't own things you idiot

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what does it mean then smart guy?

>inb4 thats not real communism

I don't believe it's stupidity as much as it has to do with them being so incompetent, unambitious, and lazy to thrive in a society where personal responsibility and financial savviness are valued and rewarded. You know, all the qualities they lack.

>detroit is not capitalism's fault
>flint is not capitalism's fault
>FNRC is not capitalism's fault
>soviet russia is socialism's fault
shiggy

literally the basis of socialism is power going to the workers
the "incompetent, unambitious, and lazy" are the bourgeois that fight to keep workers weak and poor

>detriot is blacks fault
>flint is gubments fault
>FNRC is jews fault
>soviet russia is commies fault

seems to check out

best one

There's no point in arguing with most right wingers.

>implying that's how it plays out

you literally have to become the bourgeois in order to take power away from those in power.

>What is pension

>gubment
hidden

also

>unfair labor conditions
>maybe I should quit and find another job or create a new company with better working conditions thus giving other people who have said job with unfair working conditions another job to go to, I.E. the free market

>nah it's just the rich peoples fault

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or violent revolution
>gubment
..a capitalist gubment

I think I've finally hit the point where the use of sarcasm and irony pisses me off

no one cares namefag

nordic model lol
you say this as if you can just, open up a fucking store to compete with walmart

Communism would work very well if humans were just an ant colony and had no ambitions.

> communism
> ever been implemented

>implying you can't just open up a store and compete with walmart

what's stopping you?

why is it 0 or 100 with you people, either full communism or ancap

but user
workers are stupid
that's why they're workers
if they were capable of attaining power and managing it then they wouldn't be workers

think of it like this
you're proposing staffing a cat food plant with cat labor
lol you know that ain't ever gonna work, right?
cats just don't have that capacity

nah, it's just that everyone seems like a ancap to a lazy commie is all

it's fucking walmart. the waltons have like 100 billion fucking dollars. what on god's green earth do you think can be done? they could fucking execute people if they wanted to, you can't just peacefully compete with a monopoly like that

this kid needs to be gassed or at least wait until 18 to post

>can't aruge
>lol underage ban lol get gassed

How do you expect to be taken seriously at all?

Detroit is the fault of 6 decades of left-wing welfare-statist Democrat rule.

Flint is the fault of incompetent local government and unfixed plumbing, unrelated to capitalism.

i'm not the one you're "aruge"ing with and I wouldn't argue you to begin with, you're a fucking moron.

this is where we hit the brick wall in these arguments. there's no way to debate the fact that you think workers are stupid
there are things called moderation. the nordic model has been working pretty excellently

>monopoly
>Costco, Target, and Vons do not exist
Nordic model is a meme, the Nordic countries were just as successful in the 70s before they had significantly adopted the social democracy they have now

>a few examples of specific failures within otherwise successful capitalist societies
>every socialist country ever is a complete shithole
seems like a great comparison

>using someones typo's as a means to feel superior

and here I thought commies thought everyone was equal

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>incompetent local government
if that was true (and you know it isn't) the GOP would not have shut down investigation

Well if the dialectical model that all of that scholarship is built upon proves to be false it does seem to follow that that scholarship will be invalidated.

>open up a store
>sell things that walmart doesn't offer
>provide services that walmart doesn't offer
>grow because you're offering a service that walmart doesn't provide

I fail to see how this doesn't work.

i want pol to leave

>the "incompetent, unambitious, and lazy" are the bourgeois that fight to keep workers weak and poor
you're right though
but what you fail to understand is that the bourgeois are successful because they are superior to the workers
planning, foresight, goal execution, etc.
>there's no way to debate the fact that you think workers are stupid
if they weren't stupid then why are they workers?
because bourgeois are superior?
why don't they just become the bourgeois if the bourgeois aren't superior?

It doesn't work only because Walmart is already the greatest solution to the problem of supplying cheap goods to consumers.

>there are people who actually believe communism ever works

It is but a mere conjecture. Are you fucking serious?

best capitalist albums?

I'm not advocating communism at all, I might theoretically be on your side. It's just obvious that you don't know what you're talking about and are very misinformed/lacking research. Also probably never taken an economics class in your life.

>how can one store compete with another?

>Please don't fuck this up.
kek, socialism is literally a religion

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america was successful as well, but it didn't see the opening to move from capitalism into a model similar to the nordic, and look where it is now
again, nordic model. pure socialism is not feasible. neither is pure capitalism
all founded decades ago, before Reagan

Get with the times bitch boy. Every lefty-littered art board is going to have transcended in a years time.

I forgot Sup Forums was a safe space for libtards

tell me how it's wrong then

That Walmart Choir thing. Can't think of anything else that is actually decent.

>how can a store compete with literally a goddamn empire worth close to a fucking trillion dollars

IM ONLY DEFENDING COMMUNISM BECAUSE I DONT WANT SOMEONE LIKE ZAPPA TO BE RIGHT

>america was successful as well, but it didn't see the opening to move from capitalism into a model similar to the nordic, and look where it is now
At the forefront of innovation and wealth? Doesn't sound so bad to me. The Nordic model did nothing to improve the countries it was applied to.
>all founded decades ago, before Reagan
What does this have to do with anything? Pretty much false anyways; Costco was founded in 1976, but only blew up in the 90s because they had a distinctive economic model to other competitors.

oh boy, cant wait to listen to all that great right wing music like shitty punk, shitty black metal and shitty synthwave

>nordic model
I might not 100% agree but I think this is at least reasonable. The problem is that lefties don't understand that while yes, pure capitalism isn't a perfect system, you can easily ameliorate most of the issues through social policies in a social democracy. You don't need a radical overhaul.

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I agree that the Nordic model is a meme. They were more successful in the 70s because the manufacturing industries were still here and the wages when adjusted for inflation were higher. Mostly it's because those countries had a head start after WWII since all of their factories hadn't been carpet-bombed and there was a high level of societal trust and homogeniety. Social Democracy is used to to try to explain why Nordic countries were successful but it's also cause of their current problems.

>at the forefront of innovation and wealth
innovation where? silicon valley? the most liberal place in all of america?
and reaganomics ya dingus. when you let corporations rule free, they become supermassive. you can't fight that without violent revolution

by offering better price on comparable goods, by offering better quality comparable goods, or by offering goods that walmart does not provide

I don't know, with the way the US is going it seems we get further and further from not needing a radical overhaul. Bannon's a goddamn supervillain for the working class and oppressed.

The average IQ of the nation is all that fucking matters. Virtually any economic system will work if the people are smart and hard working (except for communism which is never feasible).

That's really the final red pill on this entire debate. Everybody argues about this policy vs this policy, this country vs this country. All that matters is IQ.

he literally just told you & you replied saying tell me how it's wrong

please finish highschool... I can only imagine what your music taste is like

>if it makes sense theoretically, it MUST work pragmatically
Just stop already.

>innovation where?
>capitalist silicon valley?
kek

WOW I SURE LOVE MUSIC

Something that some people ITT seem to lack to a great extent.

no one with an actual high IQ believes this
that's quite literally impossible when a rival corporation has infinite money. monopoly means they have everything. the only places that compete do it by brand loyalty

Yeah, it's not so much that the Nordic model can't work (though the refugee problems are straining it heavily), it's just that it's something they're able to do because of their wealth, not something that has made them wealthy.
The Silicon Valley is neoliberal, they may be socially liberal but they're also strong believers in free trade.
>reaganomics ya dingus
Nice buzzword there bro. Do you think large corporations didn't exist prior to Reagan? By the way, South Korea was the only first world country to not experience a recession in 2008-2009, and they've also had the fastest consistent economic growth for the last couple decades. Guess what? A single large corporation, Samsung, has revenue equal to nearly a fifth of their entire nation's GDP. Large corporations aren't inherently bad.

>a socialist/communist saying if it makes sense theoretically, it MUST work pragmatically
what a wonderful time to be alive

Okay, sure, let's start by asking you how you would be able to offer better prices, how you could surpass name brand quality while keeping the price lower, & what goods you might provide that you can't find at walmart which would make such a huge difference everyone would flock to you?

>when you let corporations rule free, they become supermassive. you can't fight that without violent revolution

Or... Y'know people could just stop spending money if they disagree with a corporations behavior.

Crazy idea, right?

Don't you see this kid is fooling around with you?

>walmart has cheap goods
is not an argument against why providing a service that walmart doesn't provide is a viable option.

also
>implying you have good taste

fuck music, viva la revolucion

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Anonymous 02/26/17(Sun)22:08:37 No.71272764 He's right.

Communism is retarded and if you're unironically a communist you should unironically kill yourself.

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Anonymous 02/26/17(Sun)22:11:41 No.71272818 I know right? And it only takes one for lolbertarians.

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Different poster but surely even you understand the 'bourgeois' are mainly there due to monumental luck and privilege.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle and both are you are somewhat wrong and somewhat right and completely arguing in black and white.

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Indeed a wonderful time to be alive; now kids are suddenly able to recognize and categorize your political stance when you just highlight their puerile fallacies!

you don't exactly have a lot of choice when you're poor. just because you don't agree with capitalism doesn't mean you don't have to survive under capitalism

Answer me:

>Different poster but surely even you understand the 'bourgeois' are mainly there due to monumental luck and privilege.
There are more self-made billionaires now than ever before. The ultra-wealthy have their wealth rapidly reduced after just a few generations due to the exponential nature of population growth.