>DCucks complain for YEARS about how Tim Burton's Batman kills people >"REEEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE THOSE BURTON MOVIES! THEY DON'T STAY TRUE TO THE CHARACTER!"
>Bat of Manslaughter does nothing but kill people in BvS >"W-well that's o-okay b-because t-they d-don't have to s-stick to the source m-material! brava snyder!"
both the Burton movies and Snyder's are fucking gutter trash
Nolan is the only person to ever make a competent Batman film.
Keaton was a fucking manlet.
Jack Richardson
Marvel didn't release a similar movie in the same time frame that did better, so they didn't pretend to like that one as damage control.
Joseph Ward
Because the batman in BvS is based off of The Dark Knight Returns batman, who is so far gone past giving a flying fuck due to various traumatic events (robin's death for one) that he just kills people.
I dont even fucking like batman and I know this shit
Jace Moore
4U
Christian Martin
And Burton's Batman is mostly based on the original comics where he killed a bunch of people and laugh about it. Some shots of Batman 89 are 100% like the comics panels from these old comics.
Adam Gutierrez
At least there are some smart people in this board People always say shit like this but Batman doesn't kill anyone in Dark Knight returns
>People always say shit like this but Batman doesn't kill anyone in Dark Knight returns
This. He's an edgy fuck who beat people for te hell of it and uses guns, but he's not a murderer.
Bentley Campbell
>beat people for te hell of it and uses guns, does he ? I remember a scene where he shows a shotgun and say something like 'This is a cowards weapon and clumsy'
>“I would say that in the Frank Miller comic book that I reference, he kills all the time. There’s a scene from the graphic novel where he busts through a wall, takes the guy’s machine gun… I took that little vignette from a scene in ‘The Dark Knight Returns, ‘and at the end of that, he shoots the guy right between the eyes with the machine gun. One shot. Of course, I went to the gas tank, and all of the guys I work with were like, ‘You’ve gotta shoot him in the head’ because they’re all comic book dorks, and I was like, ‘I’m not gonna be the guy that does that!’”
>he shoots the guy right between the eyes with the machine gun. One shot.
>Snyder references a famous sequence in the second issue, “Dark Knight Triumphant,” in which Batman attacks a couple of thugs who have taken a little kid hostage. Batman does, indeed, shoot one of them, but there’s definitely no head shot. In fact, it seems pretty clear he doesn’t actually kill the thug
tfw Snyder is too stupid to even read a fucking comics properly
Adam Miller
There's also the fact that Batman's inner monologue TELLS US that he has never killed anyone, even if he feels like he should and wants to.
Dylan Green
I'm surprised Snyder didn't talk about the time Superman broke Lex Luthor's neck that time Luthor was mind controlling Wonder Woman ;)
Liam Hernandez
>Trusting Batman's inner monologue The dude be crazy
Ryan Howard
Less crazy than Snyder though.
Josiah Perry
>Snyder's only writing/directorial/producing combo gig was Sucker Punch
Let that sink in. The movie he had the most influence over is Sucker Punch.
Brayden Morris
He does murder Joker though.
Took him long enough to work up the nerve for that.
Gavin James
Do you guys think Snyder is mad at himself for being outdone by Nolan? You can call Nolan a hack, but he did actually a pretty good job with the first 2 Batman movies. The third not so much but it's still watchable.
Liam Morgan
>dc fans generally like the burton movies with some objections >dc fans spend years shitting on MoS and now months lamenting bvs >anyone who defends it is apparently a dc fan ok
Joshua Moore
You're an idiot. The Joker killed himself and framed Batman. Fuck you, learn2read or take some memory courses or whatever.
Nathaniel Scott
>in the third issue, “Hunt the Dark Knight,” when Batman and The Joker have their final confrontation. In the end, Batman can’t bring himself to kill his arch-nemesis. The Joker even mocks him over it and then seals Batman’s fate in the view of the public by twisting his own spine, killing himself in such a way that makes it look as if the Dark Knight did it.
Ayden Long
I think Snyder did a good job with Watchmen. And too a lesser degree Man of Steel, which I still liked. Batman V Superman is a trainwreck though.
I have to give it to Nolan because Begins & Dark Knight are superb. Still think Watchmen and Man of Steel are good in their own right though.
Henry Morales
Has Burton ever commented on the Nolan films?
Jayden Gomez
idk, but you shouldn't trust what Burton SAYS. He said he didn't read any batman, and yet his movies have shot for shot recreations of comic book panels in them.
Landon Gonzalez
Well he could have used them as reference from the DC archives, that didn't mean he actually read them
Christian Murphy
It makes perfect sense.
Jose Fisher
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Leo Nelson
Burton said he wished he could make a movie as dark as TDK, but it just couldn't be done in the 90s.
Julian Lewis
They're obviously just being contrarians. Critics and audiences liked Burton's Batman, so the DCucks shit on it. Critics and audiences blasted BvS, so the DCucks dub it kino and hail Hack Snyder as a true auteur.
Nathan Taylor
Years after the film's release, Tim Burton got into an argument regarding the film's accuracy to the comic books with actor/writer/director Kevin Smith during a phone conversation for the Jay and Silent Bob show. In it Burton admitted to having not been a major comic book fan before taking on the directorial duties of the film, prompting Smith to half jokingly insult "Well I guess that explains Batman!" Smith later apologized to Burton for the remark as Burton meant to also mention the reason behind this was due to childhood dyslexia which made it very difficult for him to read comic books as a child. Though he did occasionally look at the images and became enamored with the iconography of the Batman and Joker mythology, It was Alan Moore's The killing Joke which helped him understand the mythology the most, Burton often said of the story that "it was the only comic book he never felt was hindered reading due to his dyslexia."
Alexander Allen
Batman '89 was actually pretty dark for time period.
Samuel Watson
>for the time period Yes. However it can't hold a candle to anything made after 00. It still has those goofy 90s undertones.
Alexander Bailey
He also said in an interview that he never read any comic book. The guy does the same shit as Stephen King when he talks to journalists. If he doesn't like the person, he says thing that is the opposite of something he said elsewhere.
Jordan Long
If I remember correctly it was one of the last films to use a large set where all the cities and buildings were made for the movie. Now days movies like TDK trilogy do live location shooting for a more realistic effect that wasn't practical back then. It adds to the atmosphere, but it does seem somewhat cartoony.
Jackson Butler
>for the time period can you read?
Thomas Barnes
I always heard it told as him being catty towards Kevin Smith for jokingly accusing Burton of plagiarizing Smith's work with the of Planet of the Apes.
Isaiah Wood
He also said that he never read Batman comics to another interviewer. Anyway, Burton likes to say things like that. Like saying he doesn't like musicals when he made Sweney Todd when he actually does like them and was involved in the musical theatre industry because of HBC.