How to address self-hate as an ABC?

ABC = American/Australian Born Chinese
I have so much self-hate. I hate ABCs so much and i hate the fact im an ABC. Self-hate is very prevalent amongst westernised east asians ao how can we resolve this self-hate?

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What?
I'm literally a Somali and I don't have this same hate that you do.

are you a girl?

Somalis didn't:
1) grow up with parents forcing them to act more like solmalis from Somalia
2) have a lot of stereotypes imposed upon them by the west

GOTTA GET A GOOK

Everyone has stereotypes imposed on them m8

go back to china

unironically if you get a good handle on chinese and english I think you'd do fine there at the very least as a translator

Not as much negative stereotypes as ABCs

Visit China and stay for at least a year.

Is she made out of plastic?

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absolutely disgusting tits

Silly, become the same mainland nationalistic Chinese clones and you are going to be fine. There are 1.4 billion of them so you will never feel lonely anymore.

for you

This self-hate you talk about don't exist in French born Chinese except for Chinese Koreaboos and weaboos.
Is that a thing in Anglo countries ?

Really? Do they assimilate well? I've been to Paris and the Chinese there don't seem to care a bit about being part of the French culture. But maybe I'm wrong though, after all there might be no particular french culture just like future French president (Macron) said.

Yes. Maybe it's the parents

she is beautiful

Go home

>it's an elliot posts from beyond the grave episode

There's a French culture. The Chinese migrants keep to themselves, the mainlanders behave like mainlanders.
Their kids are banana. They know both cultures, went to the university, are integrated, don't cause troubles.

howabout the french-vietnamese? or are you lumping them into that

that has to be a tranny

Well the Chinese I met in France usually detest the french style socialism and "fake"(as they said) liberalism and have a stern belief the gov only cares about Blacks and Arabs. They like German/ German gov though, more conformist and less protest...etc.

I don't know any french-vietnamese. The french-cambodians I know of are well integrated too. I don't know about other SEA.
I've never heard of any problems or self-hate because they're Asian. For other things, yes, not because of their ethnicity.
That's unrelated to self-hate because they're Asian, but that's mostly true.

Self hate ABCs not asians.

You can only realistically be proud of your own achievements. Go achieve something and stop being a pathetic cuck.

I think euros are more civilised in comparison to anglos

Unironically the germans seem capable of turning migrants into effecient workers, the only thing america turns migrants into is rappers or criminals

wow i would fucc those feet

brah

Would fuc

I talked about French born Chinese, then Asians on a wider scale.
You need a reason to hate yourself. Maybe there's something on the way you're treated in America or Australia.
ABCs are completely different compared to European Chinese (UK not included). They're less easy to live than those in Europe.

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My only choice is to try to assimilate into white culture or move to china. I don't want to be part of ABC culture

do you have a sister?

>Self-hate is very prevalent amongst westernised east asian

Speak for yourself faggot

I just did. You fucking ABC shitter

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Why do you have to make a choice? Isn't the Australian culture, the Chinese culture and the ABC subculture part of yourself?

Where wrong with ABC culture?

It's not as easy as 123

ABC culture is outdated wannabe intra-cultural revolution garbage
Yes but i dislike ABCs

>Make blanket statements
>I'm only talking about myself

I assume you passed English class yes?

this is why racemixing is an evil thing

You could solve the ABC problem by embracing the BBC.

Okay ABC shitter. Now go away

racemixing/immigration I meant

This. Make beautiful chocolate children.

British Born Chinese?

Ok. See those cultures as tools, backgrounds that helped shaping you. You use the tools, you are not the tool. Are you a tool OP?
No? Then act like you want to instead of putting a label on yourself.

>assimilate

lol what? Asians never mix with other ppl

Beautiful Blacked Chinks

>I gotta conform to a specific culture
>I can't just be myself
>muh stereotype imposing on me

tip top kek how much of a cuck are you?

sounds to me you're becoming pussified as hell and can't think for himself for what he wants in life and tries to conform to something

Why don't you do what you want to do and not adhere to what other people think?

Me shooting guns and eating barbecue doesn't make me white nor does listening to rap and eating fried chicken make me black

it just makes me a freeman who can do whatever the hell he wants

seriously you self hating abc's have serious mental issues and should immediately administer yourself to a mental institution

I've met Asians from work or through friends or family in every French region besides paca.
They all had local friends Asian or not. They behave like every other guy, but they keep their culture.

I WANT TO BE WHITE BUT ABC KEEP GIVING ME SHIT FOR BEING A "SELLOUT" LIKE THEY HAVE AN AUTOMATIC RIGHT TO JUSGE ME EVEN UPON FIRST IMPRESSION

To be white. What does it means?

>hang out with a group of people of many different race
>ABC accuses you of being a "traitor"
Jesus christ

>ABC KEEP GIVING ME SHIT

lol ignore those faggots

those types of chinks are rare here

just come to America and hang out with me we can shoot guns and crack open a beer over a campfire :)

Its a new worlder's issue i guess

As in i have friends who aren't ABCs

That's what I meant. They behave like normal guys and don't cause troubles while being contributors of France because Chinese generally speaking are practical people and rarely protest. But I don't think they(even the second gen I talked to) take the whole liberte equalite fraternity...thingy and other "french" french culture seriously.

With this definition of "whiteness" Europe is more than 99% "white"

>dont learn chinese because i dont fucking want to
>ABC accuses you of being a traitor

>dont like eating those chinese mooncakes
>ABC shames you

I'm really suprised you even make friends with abc's

Over here there are barely any, most of my friends are white, black or Latinos

only got like 2 chink friends

>abc thinks china is the greatest
>but for some reason they shit talk mainlanders and refuse to befriend them

Europeans have no self esteem issues on their future, or at least have less issues as oppossed to the USA

Only in murrica do people unironically base their entire lives on this, to the point conservatives try their best to be the whitest despite that not actually meaning anything individually.

You mean chinks and (east) asian people in general are docile fucks who are happy to let themselves get fucked over.

I grew up in a Chinese dominated suburban area and only had abc friends until i went to uni

I actually dont understand this easier, i assume people grow out of it like i did, but apparently some don't

I don't know about you but I think being surrounded by ABCs is probably a lot better than being surrounded by BBCs

Business and myself first. Politics is politics. You do politics, I do business.
That's really easy to follow.
They know of the French culture. That's enough. It doesn't means they have to eat baguettes and cheese regularly and they're not expected to.

Ofc it is. Because ABCs only shit on ABCs and leave everyone else alone

Human beings are weak so they mostly need to cling on something much larger than their tiny and insignificant existence. Obviously in that case for lots of ABC have to cling on the glorious Chinese culture and it's presence to feel validated in Australia. Simple as that. Interesting enough, there are many Taiwanese went to Australia and hang around mostly with Chinese became quite pro PRC and desperately want Taiwan to unify with mainland and be part of this incredible, unparalleled, tremendous Chinese empire.

lol that must kinda suck for you but now yu're mostly free to be your own man and do whatever the hell you want to make yourself happy. Your life doesn't conform to what others perceive you as its yours to do whatever the hell you want with it.

I admit when I was a teenager I became somewhat of a nationalist chink who dislike what the western governments did to China and japs most of all but I soon realized that all of that is meaningless because you can't undo the past only look forward to the future.

just do what makes you happy and fuck your abc friends who can't see shit past their own culture, friends who shame you for what you want to do or who you want to be are no friends of mine.

Someone said it already in the thread about being sent back to the gramps in China, but you don't have to get along with someone because he's from the same country as you.
You can't choose your family, but you can choose your friends and who you hang out with.

Then can we really call them "well integrated"? That's my question. For me it's purely, like you said, business. I'm not sure I'd like this idea having a bunch of newly citizens who have such different values from native citizens.

>Somalis
>no negative stereotypes

Have you been living under a rock?

Most ABCs had parents from the cultural revolution era and hasn't been to back to China ever since they fled there.

ABCs are just chinese wannabes with a chinese face

>I admit when I was a teenager I became somewhat of a nationalist chink who dislike what the western governments did to China and japs
Serious question, have you ever thought about going back to china as a teen and living there?

If you want to then just go. There is certainly no right answer on this topic.

fuck no its terrible there, everyone is out to make money for themselves and their family and will have no scruple for fucking you over because you allowed them to fuck you over.

My parents were from Kaiping and people there were pretty poor but genuinely nice and shit

Imagine 1950's America with the conforming uniformity of culture and safety but 10x poorer

All in all will want to go back once in a while and have a summer house in China to keep to my roots but liveing in America is the best option for me, after all my parents sacrificed their entire adult lives working for me and my siblings to have a good life in America so I will not sacrifice that by going back into the bosom of commies they so vehemently hate

all in all like what my parents say

Good to visit but not good to live

I just want to know if ABCs are all about "china is great" have they thought about actually going back

Integrated is not assimilated.
Their values are compatible enough. There's no clash or any really opposite values, unlike other ethnicities. They vote, take part on the daily life of their community and city, they contribute to society. They work. They're not harmful to the system (besides when they dodge taxes). Isn't that being integrated?

Do you even need to ask? Do you think those wave of mainland Chinese in Australia who vehemently wish to have Oz citizenships are just there to anger their parents and be an edgy teen ?

In my experience the south east Asians assimilate in the USA. They still have this "azn pride 4lyfe" thing sometimes, but overall, very normal people. I've worked with a lot of filipinos who are very typical for Americans.

It's the far-easterners that tend to place themselves into communities of only their own and even after multiple generations are still completely isolated from the rest of us.

A 4th generation westernised asian full blood chinese still exists... They should just go bsck to china if they're going to be like this.
They just seem to love china so much i thought they should actually live there

>besides when they dodge taxes
I get happy when they do.

>the bosom of commies they so vehemently hate
That comes back frequently, here.

>1) grow up with parents forcing them to act more like solmalis from Somalia
Somalis literally have their clitorises cut off to conform with Somali social norms.

>2) have a lot of stereotypes imposed upon them by the west
I don't think anyone can ever use this as an excuse for anything. Negative stereotypes are not nearly as prevalent as you think, and they never have any effect on how you are perceived as an individual.
And Somalis are looked down upon a lot more than Asians. The only Asian stereotypes I can think of are that you are intelligent and that you have small dicks. Both of which really only work to your advantage.

>filipinos
I can't imagine them as anything but Nutshack-characters.

>And Somalis are looked down upon a lot more than Asian
For got reason.

Frankly I won't call that integrated still. I'd say living parallely yet harmoniously. But you have to take one important thing into consideration: there are simply too few Chinese immigrants in France to know if there's true harm. Much like all the immigrants, people usually raise their voice when they are sure the system is in their favour and that their voices are big enough to be heard. I bet you can have very much different views on Chinese "immigrants" from native Malaysian or Indonesian in these two countries compared to yours.

which is why I think we should deport all commies into North Korea to get them a taste of that shit.

Western commies want the best of both worlds of being a rich nation with all the infrastructure and convenience of a 1st world nation but have their needs and class to be equal with everyone which is really retarded.

Basically they're selfish fucks who never in a day had to subsist on plain bread or rice for a single day and they should all be deported to North Korea

Chinese malaysians and indonesian malaysians tend to come here anyway

Well i wouldn't say this is true honestly
American culture is global including the image they make of asians in popular culture, and many have the same problems as asian-americans it shows when you talk to many of them, politics or otherwise

Actual Chinese immigrants are detached from this, hang out with each other and don't have these problems it's true

But the kids that grow up with the French look to me a lot like American ones : the women date the bottom of the barrel of white guys for some reason and the men are nerds and self-centered and made fun of
Usually they have the opinions you'd expect on politics either being far-left hipster and "antiracist" or far-right and trying really hard to be considered assimilated

Yes no offense but judging from the ones i met, i bet they all have identity issues

What did you expect? Your country is literally surrounded by these two countries and at the same time being extremely rich.

There's this harmful image that they're too quiet and don't want problems. That's why they get targeted by pickpockets and bag snatchers.
On the other hand, they're buying everything and import their dodgy business practices. That's damaging.

Those two countries are impoverished and incompetent cause they rejected them, and made us rich in the process

Somalis are generally regarded as the worst Africans.