/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

Shred/Wank/2-5-1 Edition

How do I start learning guitar?
>justinguitar.com

Suggested Practice Routine:
>i.imgur.com/yfgsTaq.png

Guitar chords and inversions
>chordbook.com/guitar-chords/

String tension calculator (D'Addario-based):
>stringtensionpro.com/

Music theory:
>musictheory.net/lessons

Hal Leonard's Bass Method:
>mediafire.com/file/sayviwqxfcxfjon/

Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf

Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar

Advancing Guitarist - Mick Goodrick
>mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8

Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
>mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg

Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
>mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22

Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
>mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb

Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
>mediafire.com/download/07o65qdh5in1nsq
>mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd

Impulse Response Pack
>mediafire.com/download/svtfxjtillrdwt8/Gods Cab 1.3.rar
>mediafire.com/download/4n28zkjw0zgmdj9/ASEM RECTO V30 L2.wav

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How long did it take you to git gud at bar chords?

3-4 months to be successful at it. 6 months to do it reliably without looking/trying.

I don't think anyone who is mentally sane ever took notice of something like that. Just keep playing.

I did. Because it was something I couldn't do, and I wanted to do it. So when I nailed a bar chord, I noticed. And when I could change between chords, I noticed that too. Not claiming sanity, though.

Even after I could do them, it took me a while after to be able to do them without my hands hurting

got a soft little buzz when I strum my low E string moderately. I'm a bit new when it comes to fixing things up, but would it be something I could fix with truss rod adjustment? Or should I adjust the bridge height?

My contribution.

Is your guitar used? Is the buzzing on one string, or across all the strings? Buzzing away from the 12th fret, or clean, then buzzing, then clean again?

Buzzing on some strings but not others usually indicates a twist in the neck. Buzzing across strings south of the 12th fret but not above indicates a convex (bent back) neck. Buzzing between, say, the 5th fret and 15th, indicates a concave (bent forward) neck.

In most cases, best place to start is with a "massage". Take the tension off the strings, take the tension out of the rod. Twist the neck back and forth to relieve the internal residual stresses in the wood. Then slightly tension the rod. Add tension to the strings. Play along the fretboard starting at the nut. Early buzz means you need more tension in the truss rod. Keep tensioning the truss rod and balancing the strings until the buzz is gone and you're in tune. May have to try a few times, but good learning exercise. Rarely does changing the bridge elevation actually improve string buzz. Hope that helps.

Actually, increasing the elevation of the bridge decreases playability So I usually set bridge elevation before detensioning the strings. Lower the bridge as much as possible, play in the upper registers of the guitar and make sure there's no buzz. If that's the case, then a flat neck will also be buzz-free. Then I detension the strings and truss rod, massage the neck with a twisting motion along its length, add tension back, etc.

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i just bought one of these for a really good price, its a 1987 fernandes soloist copy

does any of /gg/ have a thing for mij guitars?
e.g greco, orville, tokai,

or is /gg/ strictly fender twinks

/gg/'s got a hard on for MIJ Fenders. I'd have to say I do too though.

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Check out this guitar jam that I jammed with my guitar (: I like buckethead, tosin, mclaughlin, macalpine, feodor, daniel davidsen, hendrix, frusciante, sharkey, all those cats plus a bunch more, like piano players and saxophone players. Coltrane for sure. Chopin. Paganini. They're all cool.

Thanks a bunch, definitely helped!

dont shill in here, go post that in your soundcloud containment thread

I feel like this is the only true patrician setup and if you disagree you don't know SHIT about guitars.

Longer than it should have. I pretended it wasn't that important for the longest time and could only barely do an F barre chord for the longest time.

Just pick out a few songs that utilize them a lot and practice them daily. A good one to start with is Rooster, pretty simple but it gets you on the way to being comfortable with barre chords.

I have a line 6 spider III HD150 head and Spider III 320W 4x12 Cabinet and I have no idea why I have it. It's too big.

I've wanted an Ibanez for a while and I'm torn between an RG450dx and the Jem Jr. From what I can tell they're more or less the same but the Jem is $100 more with the fancy fretboard design, grip, and somewhat different tremolo system.

What should I do?

I don't see why you would shell out an extra hundred just to have a steve vai lookalike guitar. I actually think it's uglier than the RG with that corny fretboard and everything is white (pickups, pick guard, locking bolt and knobs)

The RG has the same build overall and looks nicer so I'd go with that. According to the GC website both have Quantum pickups, since it's a cheaper guitar I'm gonna assume they don't sound very good so I'd suggest getting some DiMarzio's or symour duncans. I've also heard mixed things about the Edge Zero II tremolo system. It would be smart to go to a local store and try one out before buying it. Nothing is worse than a locking trem that still doesn't stay in tune.

>line 6
>true patrician

>I've also heard mixed things about the Edge Zero II tremolo system.

That's one of the main reasons I was considering the jem, the different trem system. But I've been reading up on it and most things I've found claim that the Edge Zero II is better than the trem system in the Jem Jr so I'll probably go with that.

But I play guitar and it's pretty much just a guitar solo and this is the guitar thread shred edition. What's the officer problem?

be honest, can you play little wing?

I used to, I never really kept up at it to retain my knowledge. The most advanced thing I can do now is probably the Highway Star solo

In a decade of playing I've never learned a Hendrix lick or riff
He's not interesting

Who do you think is more interesting to study?

Muhammed Suicmez

is justinguitar pretty all-encapsulating? Feels like shit going from being able to bust out pretty much anything on drums to not even being able to play fucking green day songs on guitar.

Woah, you must be really smart to consider one of the all time greats uninteresting. I'm fucking impressed already.

Just one person? You don't like Jimi Hendrix, you've been playing for decades and only study one dude named Muhammad? Is that what you call a burger with bacon? Moo-Hammed?

Who do you study in the drumland?

Not a lot as of late. I've mostly been just picking stuff and improving in the style over it which proved more useful. If you're asking for your own learning, I started with Carmine Appice learning resources cause his were fun enough to stick with it as a kid. Then it was studying most of the well known resources (Ted Reed: snare drummer books, prog syncopation, etc. Jim Riley bebop drumming, some other jazz/brazillian books.).

And then alongside the improving n whatnot I would lift stuff from drummers I like. Mark Giuliana, Steve Gadd, Matt Garstka, Benny Greb, Eric Harland, to name a few. Even the not as technically or musically involved drummers had stuff I found useful tho. I got stuff from Aaron Solowoniuk, Travis Barker, all those more generic rock drummers.

I had someone holding my hand thru the early stages, and I'm generally bad at learning off rails at the start, which is why I'm wondering about justinguitar.

>tfw you can play guitar but not that well
>everything you try to make is just shitty chord progressions

Kill me

I was glad to see Matt Garstka mentioned. I study him and Blake Richardson a lot. I'm not that good at drums, I mostly just jam simple 4/4 beats and practice my singles on the pad, but for composition purposes and whatnot, I learn a lot from people like that.

I also like Chris Dave and Dave Weckl a lot. Have you ever heard of Damien Schmitt?

youtube.com/watch?v=2GeZ0YOMNWs

Why do electric guitars sound so crappy that they have to be masked in a ton of effects

youtube.com/watch?v=g9n9gNX3-Oo

how to get the kinks guitar sound? what is it that makes it so distinctive?

I love Chris Dave and Dave Weckl, forgot to mention them haha. I actually got weckls Evo crashes on my kit, amazing sound. I've heard a little bit of damien, tho I can't say I've heard a lot of his stuff.

That's good that you look ahead at players that may be a bit ahead of your playing. A lot of my learning just came from saying fuck it and playing along to the song as best as I could and forcing the hard parts, no matter how sloppy they ended up being, til something stuck, a lot of the time not even singling out the part, though I don't know how smart or dumb that may have been.

Been on all day but getting off now, best of luck with drums, fucking love em haha.

Those guitars should stay in the 80s where they belong

VOX AC30 and a razor blade to the speaker wasn't it?

Because NASA doesn't make pickups and the wood used is shitty 99% of the time. Go to guitar center find me one guitar on the wall made out of anything slightly exotic. Drums are made out of all sorts of woods like bubinga maple walnut tigerwood purpleheart. Guitars are the same almost every time.

>tfw basses are made out of all kinds of exotic woods
Checkmate guitarists!

If you mean the early distorted sound, I read that dave took a razor blade to his speakers, and used an elpico tranny amp as a preamp for his AC30. A decent rough fuzz into an AC30 type should get you within spitting distance

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Effects are fun and cool. But equally, I really love the clean sound of my guitars, I rarely play distorted.

Are there famous players who don't use effects and just play clean?

Same. I used to play with tons of effects, but over the years started eliminating them. Now it's either a straight clean sound, slightly overdriven orange amp, subtle chorus from a fulltone chorus pedal, or delay from the memory toy. My other pedals haven't even been taken out of the box in years.

Not sure. I know that players like Roger Mcguin mostly just used compression.

I bought guitar rig for recording and went down the effects black hole. Great fun, but ultimately pointless.

More common in jazz to play clean, unless you're playing fusion or something

This is a problem with effects. I see no problem with them when used creatively and to adjust timbre, but sometimes it becomes more about the effects than the music. A huge problem I see with a lot of guitarists is that they cover up technical issues in their playing by using heavy effects, whether they're conscious of it or not is pretty annoying.

A lot of effects processors just sound "music store good". They're designed so that path 1 bank 1 sounds incredible in a music store and holds your attention just long enough so you lay the cash out and take it home. And get bored of it.

All I use now is a Boss compressor, Eventide delay and Eventide reverb. Anything else is just not necessary.

If you need help with barre chords learn Drain You by Nirvana

This general is for posting pictures of gear only. No displays of talent allowed. You'll make the other anons nervous.

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Thoughts on this?

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Seems like this type of music use lighter and less compressed mixes, what you guys think

That's because wood makes no difference with electric guitar. So tired of this pseudo science bullshit.

Amp>pickups>strings>everything else.

If you have a shit amp, you will sound shit. Fucking alder, mahagony, bubinga, it's all the same.

Yeah i agree, even solid and semihollow sound the same
Its all in the pickups and strings

Do these count as shredding/wanking?

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These are the best guitars for djenting, prove me wrong

r8 and h8

Wood only means anything if you play clean, and it's still a negligible difference.

weakest bait in a while

>So far Have only been learning songs from youtube videos
>Struggling now that I'm trying to learn from tabs and by ear.
The dearth in decent tabs amazes me.

Main Gear
Gretsch G6118t stock w/ 10-52's E standard
Gretsch G5135 new electrics, input jack, fliterons, 12-56's D standard
New rancher acoustic electric

Fender Hot rod w/ Jensen green p12
Ashdown little bastard head/1x15 cab

Varius pedal

Just focus on intervals if you want to learn stuff by ear. It's boring but listen (and sing) intervals for 10 minutes every day. You know how an octave sounds, a 5th sounds similar in how consonant it is, you known how a major and minor 3rd sound like, etc. The rest isn't too hard. And once you can listen for and sing intervals it'll be much easier to learn stuff by ear.

>even solid and semihollow sound the same
Semi hollows are literally solid body guitars with hollow wings. The wings do jack shit, there is no top to freely vibrate.

No, its the opposite, they're hollowbody guitars with a block in the middle to prevent feedback, which doesnt take the hollow sound carachter away completely

youtube.com/watch?v=gi4nsebXJhM

Anyone want to try recording this?

How is there a hollow body "character" to the sound if you literally take away the one major thing that differentiates hollow from solid body guitars? Also, many semi hollows have ridiculously thick tops and sides to the point where they wouldn't even work as a hollow body even if they made the top vibrate freely.
It's for looks, besides that it's pointless.

Ok whats a good hollowbody guitar with a thin top?

>only 3 strings

Try again, hotshot.

And small, like a es339 cause i'm a short guy

A proper jazz guitar with a pickup system in it, for example.

My hearing fucking sucks,
I've been practicing playing by ear, and can olny distinguish intervals, not notes. If you ask what note I just heard, my mind would go blank.

Should i sell my guitar and bass and just neck myself?

But they say jazz archtops arent good for blues and rock

If there were like a Epi Casino with humbuckers it would be everything

So, you have relative pitch. That's absolutely enough. Get good and consistent at that, it's more than enough to play by ear.

Perfect pitch is difficult to obtain. I've been playing guitar for 20 years and have picked up piano and bass along the way and I still can't tell you what exact notes I hear.

Being able to recognize intervals is a good start since it will give you some direction on what you are hearing. Also focus on learning to hear the difference between types of chords (maj, min, sus, domain, dim, and augmented. Later on you can worry about altered dominants and weird chords, for now keep it simple). Next step is to learn to distinguish chord progression sounds like the sound of a I IV V versus a I vi ii V. If you can hear things like this and you understand your key signatures, you can logically figure out songs by ear rather than relying on what notes you hear. Try figuring out new songs every day.

here's my gear

gibson LP studio & 4003 rick

Just ordered this. Did i fuck up.

That Rick is the wrong colour. Only midnight blue and walnut are acceptable.

I got the Orville a few days ago, haven't had a chance to post until now, so here it is.

The pickups are nice, neck is clear and warm and the bridge is cutting.

I raised the action a bit to get rid of some buzzing and bring a little sustain back (it was set up crazy low) and I think I've got a new main player.

(me)
Also check out this book if you can find a copy (looks to be out of print now). Well worth the price. It has plenty of music theory concepts like intervals, progressions, chord substitutions, reharmonizations.
The good thing with this book is it takes the entire Beatles discography and lists examples down to the exact point in the song to fast forward to if you want to hear the concept in action. This can be great ear training practice if you like the Beatles

(me)
Forgot to attach the image.

Those are great guitars, Yamaha is underappreciated.

Heh, I know

but actually, I really love that fireglo
also, it's not that easy finding one, and just so happened one of my first color choices was available

listen, listen and listen
do you sing? do you harmonize? your body is your main instrument, you have to tune it accordingly

why is the color uneven? Help

Look, there's on 12 notes. Learn them. It's not rocket science

>FLCL
My Negro

because you/previous owner/s used to love nailing lame ass solos, and the paint and finishing is gone now?

Underrated post

Is the gloss finish intact? If so, whoever tinted that maple neck did a shitty job.

Holy shit, will definetely look for it

Hai buddies. My line6 spider IV has been acting up again and it wont fucking work. I opened it up, made sure that none of the pins are bent or burnt, but the motherfucker just won't work. Jack and electric guitar are fine, they work on other amplifiers and on my computer. What advice would y'all give an aspiring guitarfag in terms of making the jump from shitty amplifiers to cabinets and heads? I was thinking orange, marshall, randall or even VOX, but I'm sure there's plenty of options. Even the axe FX... Just not Line6. I feel like Line6 is a meme brand that no proper guitar player will use

>I feel like Line6 is a meme brand that no proper guitar player will use
Because it is.
>the jump from shitty amplifiers to cabinets and heads
that depends what the fuck do you actually want to play

Look into tube amps. Find something you can afford with the features you need. Get a decent cabinet as you can upgrade the speakers whenever, and get the best tube head you can afford.

Combos are ok, but the tubes get rattled pretty hard in a combo.

Hell get a new bigera tri rec and a used cabinet.

I recently got together with 3 other faggots wanting to play some deathcore together. Memes aside, I think an axe fx is a respectable option for guitar effects and tones. But is it the only respectable option? Is it still better to go with a normal head/cabinet and build a pedal board to get my own sound?