Why is modern mathematics so damn weird?

Why is modern mathematics so damn weird?

Scientists wasting their time with shit nobody needs when the could be curing cancer instead. Fucking assholes

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Because spazmatic kids need to justify their waste of 5 years and 200k $ for a degree that actually didn't even turn over $40k let alone a stable career field.

ive wondered that too. its pretty fascinating to look at what has been discovered and applied to the natural world via mathematics and physics, but just how much of it is actually useful and what does it mean? Obviously basic shit like force and gravity and all that helps with engineering and space flight, but how much of it just comes down to "ok, thats how that works. how can we benefit from it if we even can."

Because all the machines used in technology for cancer and disease research is composed of math. Everything you do. Composed of math. Everything is very simply based on math. Everything you do can be calculated in some way

Mathematics imo is the descriptive language of the universe. It can be used to describe literally anything. This is whats important about math, it leads to new discoveries and gives us the ability to evolve faster as a species. Had there been one calculation wrong with the moon landing the guys would have never returned to earth just think about that

didnt that happen with another space flight? One program was coded using British system but the people were communicating using metric and caused some sort of problem if not lost lives?

Idk possibly, if so i have no knowledge of it

You might be thinking of the Mars Climate Orbiter. The thrust firings were calculated in pounds/seconds when newtons/seconds were expected, resulting in atmospheric disintegration.

that sounds right, thanks

What's in that pic?

>>measuring any sort of accomplishment in life in year payment.

oh boy you sure are going to do great things with your "life"

yes, but new forms of math are just ways to describe and process unimportant information in different ways.
Math for electronic, quantum theory, chaos theory, growth algorithms, AI is all important.. but for everything else we either 1) don't need to desgin simplification proofs because we have computers that can do complex math fast anyway so might as well leave it in a more crude form.
2) Quantifying the unquantifyable (and being useless in practice)
3)Manipulating numbers on the very limits of human comprehension.. and they are at said limits because they in no way apply to our lives.

In truth, a lot of people do that shit for fun. It's on them if they choose to waste their lives solving an arbitrary puzzle and not an applicable one.

I wish my working memory was good enough to do math.

helping humans? lmao. what a waste of time. bunch of morons who arent worth it. cure them of cancer? perhaps cancer exists for a reason.

you cant actually help humans as a whole. their stupidity and greed are beyond anyones capability of helping.

watch yourself on that edge there buddy. you are no different from anyone.

>says the human

they ran out of things to do, so they r trying to abstract problems out of social events we grasp instinctually and count to infinity, as if that has any use.
How many prime numbers r there? Who knows? How do we solve for that? Wtf r prime numbers even good for, its a large effort to judge if a number is prime? We have fractions, we dont need to worry if 7 doesnt divide well by 2. We can just write 3&1/2.

capitalistic limited minds

The idea of pure mathematics is mostly a concept from the 19th century onwards, and attempts to describe mathematics studied purely on abstract concepts that don't have any obvious connection to the real world. Truthfully it's not so black and white, and many early theses published as pure math later ended up being crucial to the development of computers and software much later after they were published.

In general it's part of higher education's responsibility to fund and support "intellectually interesting" topics, regardless of their applicability, in the hopes of growing the field and the body of human knowledge in general.

Sure, it would be bad if everyone only studied abstract and inapplicable knowledge, but it's a bit ironic to pick on abstract math specifically, which is probably one of the smallest fields and doesn't really require a lot of funding anyways.

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why do you waste your time on the internet when you could be curing cancer instead?

A big deal in abstract/pure math is that applications might pop up *after* something has been discovered. Fractals were just an interesting novelty in math for a while, and now we use the fractal dimension of blood vessels to see if a tumor is forming.

'not curing cancer' my ass.

>wasting their time

See, there's a fundamental problem with that line of thought, because knowing more IS never a waste of time.

And even if the supposedly "useless shit" somebody else is researching now has no practical applications today does not mean it cannot be useful in the future.

If anything WE are the fucking assholes, spending our time shitposting on 4chin.

OP is just a huge jelly and salty af faggot because he doesnt't understand math.

Yea we could be working on the final solution just like a true socialist

just a way to push society forward.
better than you sitting in your room playing pointless number games for years.

>Whye are modern mathematicks so damn weird, by God?
>Natural Philosophers, wasting their time with shitte no-body will ever neede, when they could be curing the pox instead. Accursed fundaments.

who is ever going to use these "equations" by Newton?

You can't direct studies toward certain goal. You need to dig shit tons of rock before you can get enough gold.

mathematics pushes society forwards.
you are just too stupid to realize this

Wtf? How can something like this have any application at all?

true. we still dont know the meaning of life, or if there is other intelligent life out there, or where the universe begins or ends, or if it even does. still dont know exactly what existed before time itself, if anything even did. so many questions!!!!!

perhaps these abstract mathematical applications, while impractical now, could eventually lead us to these answers, or possibly create more questions which also need answering. fascinating!

Think of this, OP. Imagine I sent you out into the universe and told you to describe everything and right it down using 20 words. You couldn't do it. It's something similar - maths is the language of physics and a lot of other sciences. We need abstract maths to describe a lot of physical phenomena.

Also you mentioned cancer which is typically killed via radiotherapy which is done by radiologists who have a lot of their learning based on physics.

lol
fuck you are you one of those "money dosent buy happines" assholes?
because fuck you and your attitude then

we know the meaning of life, its just that u dont like the answer and pretend there isnt 1

>curing cancer
>implying there isn't already a cure

>computers to do math
And how do you think these are coded
>quantify the unquantifiable
Basic calculus does this. And is useful in so many real world scenarios
>creating above human comprehension
These equations are actually relevant in multiple applications. Just because you cant comprehend it doesnt mean the mathematician doesnt

Or more accurately, we dont know where these "weird" mathematics will take us, because we dont know what they might be used for.

if you had handed someone in 1700 a copy of Principia, and told them that the concepts in there would be part of what made a man walk on the moon, and people to watch pictures of it happen, they'd have said you were mad.

We don't know if they will be useful in the future or not. Consider prime numbers; they had no practical use for thousands of years, but a few decades ago someone figured out they have incredibly useful applications in cryptography.

They might be in the future. Like how Einstein used riemannian spaces.something that had been considered completely useless for decades.

Math is a tool for physics and many other concrete applications. OP would have been retarded enough to think fire is useless because nobody knew cooking at this time.

This is part of an attempt to prove the ABC conjecture, and a proof of this would be exceptionally useful in mathematics in a way that is similar to how general relativity and the uncertainty principle were for physics.

yes
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not a question

Mathematics is the map of the universe, and therefore needs to keep evolving

pull your head out of your ass

we are a cancer to this planet, the reason we do mathematics is to expand our knowledge for space exploration so we dont become a dying breed in this planet you moron.