user, how old were you when you grew out of your capitalism phase and realized socialism is the logical future?
User, how old were you when you grew out of your capitalism phase and realized socialism is the logical future?
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Right about the time I realised Islam will rule the world.
Or europe at least.
Have fun with that btw.
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user, religion will not be permitted in my socialist society. enough of that nonsense
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Have you considered simply moving to a communist country? Surely they will be the perfect socialist utopia you are dreaming of.
> My socialist society.
Kek. Good luck with that Mr No One.
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user, why do you think islam would rule in a socialistic society? do you think there would be no laws against violence? do you think we would not have checks n balance?
perhaps you should examine what troubles you.
im not a communist and communism really isnt feasible until the globe is on board
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> Why do you think Islam would rule a Socialistic society.
Because that's what's happening.
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how so?
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thanks for the bump
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According to wikipedia his salary was 4 million in 2012.
There are over 3,664 restaurants in his franchise. If he gave up 100% of his salary to employees that would give just slightly over $1,000 a year for all employees of each restaurant to split. Considering each location probably emplys at least 20 people, that means an extra $50 a year per person at most.
Yup, he is hogging all the money, retard.
the third panel should be her exploding
>im not a communist
>until the globe is on board
You sound like a typical limpwristed communist who wants the nanny state to take care of you like a sniveling infant. In reality you'd be put down like a dog so the food rations wouldn't be wasted.
nice
I wonder how old you'll be when you realize the world is, was, and always will be a meritocracy.
Well if you don't like capitalism, don't fucking lurk on an iPhone or Mac
thanks for that insight.
do you know understand what owners do with money?
his bloated salary is but one of the ways he stores his unearned wealth. the wealthy keep their money in assets and stocks.
cant handle the hypocrisy? i would abolish all religion if i could but islam is useful in pointing out the rights ignorance
Just because the guy was good at physics doesn't mean he was a good economist. You don't ask economists to solve physics equations no do you...
what should i use?
ad hominem in the face of ideas one cannot combat. typical.
>his unearned wealth
How can you possibly be this much of a whiny, entitled little faggot though?
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inheritance is not earned. profit off of someone elses work is not earned.
who exactly is the whiner? the one who believes in being paid for work or the one committing ad hominem?
>ad hominem
user, I don't think you know what that means. typical.
onheritance and profit off anothers work are not merit
calling einstein incompetent instead of addressing the idea in the picture is ad hominem. you attacked the person not the idea
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This just a thread of poor people being mad they're poor. If you don't want to be poor, I suggest not being a redneck, nigger, or uneducated
That wasn't adminem at all, it is a fact.
Planned economies have never performed well in human history. They don't do well with technology at all.
What good technology ever came out of Russia besides military tech like rockets or jet fighters? Their planned economy produced disposable shit and some of the worst cars ever made on this planet. Communist China also produced horrible cars that are laughable. Socialist Sweden produced Saab which was mediocre at best and doesn't make cars any more.
What socialist planned economy has produced any revolutionary electronics?
Planned economies perform horribly and do not have any mechanism to give incentive to make a better product. They only produce the same lame shit over and over because nobody has any desire to improve anything. Profit motivates creating a better product and beating the competition.
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>ad hominem
>ad hominem
You're like a broken record, and the worst bit is you don't even know what an ad hominem argument is.
People like you probably do need socialism, that doesn't mean the system works for the rest of us however.
>profit off anothers work
>what are management and leadership skills
And once again these threads all boils down to the same thing. Entitled first world faggots complaining because they can't compete with others.
The other user wasn't making a personal attack, merely pointing out that Einstein is not an expert in economics. That is simply stating a fact relevant to the discussion, not ad hominem.
cant compare that, a good physicist is smarter and better at solving problems than a "good" economist . That being said, why physicist work at wall street if they cant understand economics?
he said with no evidence. he said as projection of his own lack of self worth
russia launched the first successful satellite. their economy and living conditions were fantastic until they started invading other countries which is not in the socialist spirit.
china is state capitalism.
sweden has some of the best intellectual property output in the world.
>profit motives
agreed. the rofit should go to the worker and society. not someone born rich. competition is vital for a successful economy. no argument here. just get rid of the owner.
if owners are managing, then why do they hire managers? why do they have executives, researchers, and presidents? you have been duped user. the owners are stealing your money.
how am i to compete with someone who inherited billions?
Experience isn't just something your character on WoW collects, user.
if we can replace all labor with robots, socialism might become a reason option
until then fuck off
No, no it isn't, not even close.
I have an idea for you. Go start a life on Etyopia from scratch, you know, jist take your clothes and your intellect, as if just born or some shit, and then try and thrive.
I mean, you'll definitely nail it, right? You're a hard working fellow, smart, focused, I'll sure you'll be able to start your own business, get a fancy house.
Or, you know, you can be starving no matter what you do and pray that some curable disease doesn't wipe you out, because there's absolutely nothing that can improve your odds. There's little to no fucking real merit in the world, you dimwit. The world is so stupidly imbalanced right now that you're either exploited or the exploiter and very few people actually stand in the middle ground.
implying that someone is incompetent in economivs bc they are good at physics is an attack on the person.
*citation needed
I know of lots of mathematicians who are hired by investment firms, but not specifically physicists. There is a difference.
Yes, Einstein was brilliant. But that doesn't mean he knew everything. I actually own a book that is a compilation of letters he wrote. I remember one where he is bitching about how he hates being famous and how people cherry pick his quotes all the time.
Hillary Spin machine in full gear. Looks like she's dusted herself off and is starting anew.
Evil Evil thing.
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>their economy and living conditions were fantastic
HA!
>china is state capitalism
Yeah, today, I'm talking about the past 70 years.
>sweden has some of the best intellectual property output in the world
Yeah, when they are motivated by capitalist markets
You are a fucking moron. See, not that was ad hominem.
>if owners are managing, then why do they hire managers?
That's called a chain of command. It's a crucial factor to running any large organization, including a government. This doesn't go away under socialism either you fucking idiot.
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>why do they have executives, researchers, and presidents?
Because people have different skill sets and levels of experience you fucking moron.
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>how am i to compete with someone who inherited billions?
At some point, somebody took a risk and generated that wealth. You compete by making yourself relevant, marketable. Not by whining on Sup Forums that "muh capitalism is unfair".
You're stupid and I'm out.
It's accurate. But by being a jewbag, you can have your cake and eat it too.
>implying any of this disproves that the world is a meritocracy
Just stop. Right here.
If you put money in stocks you're investing in other businesses. That means those businesses can hire more people to do the work that they couldn't afford before or the equipment but also then they can hire someone. Someone who didn't have a job now has a job. Maybe in another sector of the economy but what did you accomplish? Fuck all.
Capitalism gives hard working people, pioneers and employers an incentive. Socialism is literally the death of that incentive.
Get the fuck out. Just go to some shit-hole where socialism is already established, and don't come back.
penmanship matches the arguments, sloppy.
They could have answered with decent responses that showed some effort, but instead they decided to play defensive because they actually don't have good reasons behind what they believe. There is no substance to what they wrote.
>At some point, somebody took a risk and generated that wealth. You compete by making yourself relevant, marketable. Not by whining on Sup Forums that "muh capitalism is unfair".
Ignoring the Primitive accumulation of capital
>You're stupid and I'm out.
Flawless argument
When will you realise that no currently existing system actually works?
To assume someone is a genius on all topics because they are brilliant in one would be asinine. I am not aware of any of Einsteins works in economics and to uphold your claim that he is knowledgeable in this unrelated field without backing it up is misinformative.
Nobody has made a claim that Einstein is "incompentent", just that he has not dedicated his life studying the intricacies of economics and trade.
>profit off of someone elses work is not earned
It is if you're the one providing the opportunity and means to do that work
I'm an economist, tell me why socialism is better than capitalism. No pictures, just plain text.
I will debunk your theories. I'm this poster by the way Come at me.
Need proof on this. 99% of leftist twitter posts are nothing but made up bullshit.
This comic in particular reminds me of
>The Broken Window Fallacy
filthy commies and keynesians beware. How can you justify forcing others to pay for goods/services they wouldn't require otherwise?
you should read the thread before you comment. it is clear i am not pro democrat.
einstein was pretty good. wouldnt call him brilliant. but you are overestimating how difficult economics is. certainly throughout ones lifetime, they can have a sturdy grip on the matter.
most economics courses in higher education america are taught under the pretext of capitalism. that would not have helped einstein anyway
you have a bit of research to do user. please do read about soviet russia from a non american text.
the ownership of someone elses work goes away. the owners collect the profits off others work user. you are not paid for the work you do but for how much an inheritance brat decides to pay.
the wealthy did not earn their wealth user.
why are you arguing against earning the money you work for?
businesses do not simply hand out jobs user, there must be demand for that job. the demand will be filled with or without the owner.
socialism pays the worker for the work they do. more and better work = more pay. the workers earning the profits instead of begging undeserved owners is the best incentive.
I'm an economist too. You said it yourself all theories, even neo calssical synthesis.
He's also the one that noted that a shark being judged by it's ability to climb a tree will be deemed a retard.
Yes, yes. Tell racists to be afraid while you hide behind masks, intimidate them with the weapons you strive to take from them. The hypocrisy in this country is hitting meme status.
>Flawless argument
It wasn't an argument, it was a statement.
I'm going to work, while you complain on Sup Forums that you can't compete with the rich while trying to convince yourself and others that this is because of Capitalism, rather than the fact that you're unemployed.
Good job addressing my points though.
Trickle down absolutely works.
They just lied about WHERE they said it would work.
Relocating 100 million American steelworker jobs from the 1960s created 500 million Chinese manufacturing jobs.
You're just too faggot to understand.
ha!
>the wealthy did not earn their wealth user.
>wat are entrepreneurs
kek
An example of an Ad Hominem attack:
(((Einstein))) obviously cannot objectively determine who should control the means of production
Are you literally retarded?
an Ad Hominem attack:
You're a retarded faggot so what you're saying is obviously bullshit.
Do you not understand the concept of meritocracy?
If two people from around the world have the some work capacity and output, they should have reasonably the same chance to progress up the social ladder or thrive... Or at least come somewhat close to it.
So, explain to me how salaries for a profession very wildly around the globe? Different nations have different ideals, value professions differently, etc., but what about nations that have the same kind of ideals? Consider that among the western civilization there are many similar nations in terms of culture and values, a worker's output should account for similar wages and standard of living for those individuals, no?
So do try to explain why this is not the case. Seriously, give your best shot at trying to show there's no resource hogging and people with the same skills and drives have the same chance at reaching whatever spot their capacity warrants, no matter where they live and are lucky to be born at. Because that's what the concept of meritocracy translates to, doofus. And we don't have it.
If we give everyone equal amounts of everything people will still choose to work as hard as they ever would now ... Right? Right? I mean, it's not like all motivation to better oneself would go out the window or anything ...
the wealthy inherit their money, assets, opportunity. they use that wealth to collect profit off someone elses work. how many days has donald trump worked? i think he said 3 days sweeping the floors. and then daddy gave him lots of money. he earned but 3 days off money.
"entrepeneurs" ah yes good ol fashioned american spirited capitalism! perhaps you should venture beyond american high school economic texts.
That's three days more than you.
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This is now and Ad Hominid attack thread.
Trump is going to ruin the economy. He likes to grab pussy for god's sake.
An actual example of an ad hominem attack, because you clearly fucking need one in order to stop sounding like a faggot:
(((Einstein))) obviously cannot objectively determine who should control the means of production BECAUSE HE IS A NIGGER
To clarify, because you're so fucking stupid it's actually painful, the text in bold is what constitutes an ad hominem.
You see what happened was I smoked a lot of weed and stole a lot of bags of chips. As I was being dragged away and driven to jail by the cops I realized that chips should be free, man. Socialism is the future because chips should be free.
Fuck your "labels". It's either true or it's bullshit.
Never said or implied anything about "handing out jobs" typical thing stupid fucks do is put words in others mouth and debunk that.
But then you fucked up.
"Demand will be filled up with or without the owner"
You stupid man. How is there a job in the first place if there is no owner that initiated the business. And even if the government made the job opening (which is at the taxpayers expense and not from profits or personal capital) , even then it needs the owner.
Socialism taxes everyone so hard that they all make less than they should. And giving it to people that should be working but choose not to. Welfare creates moral hazard, ofcourse there should be, but why should you look for a job when you get "support money" for doing fuck all.
The owner should get the reward of profits to pay the stockholders and investors first and to reward him/her self first too because being an owner is like being an investor.
Without investors and stockholders there would not be much capitalism, every single one of those investors wants to make money = capitalism. None of those people risk their capital for no returns and for the greater good. The greater good is an extra.
The initiator should get most, and money makes decisions happen in a business.
Maybe you should limit yourself only to socialistic businesses. You'll find yourself n a box on the street without anything.
Supply and demand, retard. If two places value the same job differently then the scale of "merit" is obviously different
>I'm rich, great job, fuck 5-6 pussies per week, successful.
Why even argue on an user board. Capitalism will go down by itself
>how many days has donald trump worked?
Pretty sure he works a lot, just not doing manual labour