User, how old were you when you grew out of capitalism and realized socialism is the logical future?

user, how old were you when you grew out of capitalism and realized socialism is the logical future?

Let's clear some things up about socialism:
>You retain personal property ownership
>You are not a government drone. The govt does not control what you do with your life so long as it is not harmful.
>It is not a welfare state. It is a society for the workers. Not the mooching owners and not the mooching welfare queens.
>Competitiin and profit incentives still exist but it is the workers who see the profits, not the useless owners.

The owners, capitalists, bankers, investors are plagues. They are vestigial organs turned cancerous. They are useless anchors to society.

DOWN WITH THE BOURGOUISIE
DOWN WITH THE FAT CATS
BASH THE FASH
WORKERS UNITE

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MOA is completely within their rights to do this. It's their property, so if they don't want someone there, they can have them removed.

And that is the issue. No one polices the police ie no one has a check on authority

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what about the venus project it is the only thing i keep coming back to I met him also.

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is that you on the left?

im not familiar with the venus project so i could not say.

Yeah.

Capital gains.

Bitch.

isn't it funny that the maker of this comic assumes all gun nuts are like this.

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yea thats me it is basically technocratic socialism . Resource based economy. How much materiel do we have instead of paper money.

i have pictures of his property if you want

how is this an issue, exactly? People can hold any kind of (peaceful) demonstration they wan if they do it on public property. If they wanna do it on private property, they need permission from the owner of the property. otherwise, it's trespassing.

Every socialist economy has failed. Citizens live in poverty. Do some research. What incentive exists to become a doctor, start a business, or become a plumber if you would make a comperable amount working a cash register? None

to surf the cosmic waves. Explore. why else did evolution give us the ability to think abstractly and contemplate the nature of our reality. I will be in the lab until the day I die.....

That is exactly the point user. Glad you caught it.

Too bad you didnt interpret it correctly though. That was not an attack on gun rights, but a highlight of hypocrisy.

Unfortunately so.

And unless you are wealthy, you are also the bitch.

nice sleeve. planning on getting the other arm done?

resource based sounds nice but as technology advances beyond the physical resources into intellectual/as automation becomes relevant, i think the concept of money incentives is better.

resource based would be more of an end goal. we are not ready yet until the people on this planet unite as the humans we are. but again, not a bad end goal. not feasible atm.

In socialism, doctors and janitors are not paid the same. If you wish to own more, you may but you cant own someone else and you have to work for what your pay.

markets, competition, and money incentives still exist user.

socialist economies have failed for several reasons not inherent to socialism. the capitalists have dine their best to sabotage such efforts.

consider, user, that socialism is not black and white but a scale. as the workers get richer, society is more socialized. this can be accomplished by taxing the wealthy owners. I ask you user, when was America most economically successful and what were the taxes of those times?

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It used to be that any property free to enter by strangers to you was called a "public place"

Parks used to be owned by businesses in europe, yet freedom of speech applied to them...

Slow but steady creeps the snake towards the people who refuse to defend their rights.

Public parks have become obsolete as no-one really uses them on a daily basis, and public areas privately owned are policed for anything but their use for profit.

What is freedom of speech without a podia to speak it? Online? yes, but even then its at the grace of the owner.

can you give a brief summary of that text? potentially interested

When are you going to grow up and realize that one system has failed every time it has been implemented and one has wildly succeeded every time it has been implemented and is solely responsible for everything good that has ever happened to you including the extremely privileged society that even allows you to grow up as comforted and retarded as you must be to think socialism is a good idea.

idk i have to finish this arm first. Are you talking about scarcity because material sciences will come up with other materials. We will be mining asteroids. Yes i agree this is more of an end goal but fuck it.

This meme is retarded. If anything, the democrats lost because they chose the worst candidate in recent history. If anything else, they lost because identity politics separating their supporters (all it ever does). Not because socialists are right, but actually because they're wrong. Not because Russia is to blame, but because democrats are to blame.

You don't have to assume the entirety of a group to show a behaviour to make fun of said behaviour.
The message is more like
"There are people who defend gun rights but are still racist"
And less like "all gun owners defend gun rights and are racist"

At least that's what I think. I don't know the creators exact intend, but I don't think he actually assumes everyone to be like that.

12, just like you, then I stopped being an edgy shitposter and grew up

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE WHITE GOLD TOWER FUCKING JIHAD

Socialism is dumb. The age of automation and globalism is upon us. Socialism is a failed experiment - Capitalism is better suited for the population owning the means of production anyways.

And it doesn't matter, automation will give us something similar to what you want OP - please don't call it socialism, because you would be wrong.

Can someone explain socialism and guns.

nope

wow futuristic commieblocks with out anything that looks like private property

Socialism is a form of economics and government.

Guns are a weapon that fire projectiles most commonly using explosive propellant.

Not related.

you think the people who own automation are going to be generous. They weren't in the past. I don't have a problem with capitalism. I have a problem with corruption and social Darwinism.

>In socialism, doctors and janitors are not paid the same. If you wish to own more, you may but you cant own someone else and you have to work for what your pay.
>markets, competition, and money incentives still exist user
No friend, that is capitalism. We already abolished slavery, and someone earning more by making good investments investment which benefit everyone else by creating the jobs in the first place is absolutely fine.

*Aedra Vult intensifies*

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i think its pretty. thank you

Earth has been a plutocratic oligarchy for more than 2000 years, and will never change again until the average joe kills them all, just like what has happened throughout those 2000 years.. you really need to read an actual history book

Ok, well, Castro held people down and point blank shot them in the head for having opinions that were different from his - not even violent opinions. Moderate opinions.

right, it is an end goal and i am not opposed.

i am more talking about financial incentives to contribute to society. what do i get to do work? obviously the essentials, but people want to be able to earn more money & more personal property. how would that work if the currency is resources?

we are not quite there yet.

identity politics is but a dismissive and harmful term for civil rights. there are still many people without rights & fairness because of their skin, sexual orientation, etc. the democrats are the side that promotes the rights of the oppressed, the republicans vow to keep them oppressed. i am not pro democrat but can recognize they are better in that area.

if your response is that the laws dont explicitly say "fuck minorities" please do not bother responding

separate issues that will be decided through discussion and voting.

Einstein never said that.

even if we dont have a change in our system we still be sustainability urbanization is horrible

socialism = total government

total government is bad no matter what you say. Socialism doesn't, has not, and will never work. kys

Go take an economics 101 class moron. There is a reason socialism failed in every instance in history.

DOWN WITH THE ECONOMIC ILLITERATES

idk its hard for me to understand. I just want access to things and a place to live. I don't want to own anything. I also don't want anyone to be able to come into my house for no reason though. You should read Edward Belemay Looking backward. It a take on socialism sci book

Firearms would be limited under socialism as the government would see them as a threat.
mostly because individual rights get fucked over in socialism for the excuse of the greater good.

Better red than dead

is it possible to not have limited guns and socialism is my next question.

This is from an article called 'Why Socialism?'. The article was originally published in the first issue of Monthly Review (May 1949). It was subsequently published in May 1998 to commemorate the first issue of MR‘s fiftieth year.

They do not make good investments, they pay people to make their investments. Again, profiting off anothers work.
Their investments do not help the workers when their intent is to suck up every penny they can without doing work.
owners do not create jobs user, demand creates jobs. owners will never give a job where it is financially unsustainable.

the owners own 90% of the wealth that they did not work for but inherited. imagine that wealth going to the workers to provide a better society for all.

i think you misunderstand capitalism. capitalism is when a capitalst (aka owner, banker, investor, entrpreneur) takes money, pays people to do work, and they collect profits. they are loaners that do no work. the workers do the work and the owners take the profits.
in socialism, the profits would go directly into the workers pockets (incentive) and back to where society needed it (healthcare, foreign debt, infrastructure etc)

The only good socialists are national socialists and dead socialists.

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The people who own automation are me, and my contemporaries, and could be you if you had the urge to.

That's what socialists don't understand. We already DO own the means of production under Capitalism. It just goes to the people who are the best at it. Some people, like you, choose not to/are not able to, and that's fine. We're both valuable and necessary to the bigger picture of society in our roles - assuming you have a job.

What capitalism does is make this process efficient and viable - providing people a product for what they want if it's possible to do so. What socialism does is make the process bureaucratic and based on some arbitrary "democratic" process of giving people what they want regardless of if its viable and then inevitably ending in economic disaster. As it always has time and time again.

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I think It would be better if ther where more individual houses not a few gigantic centralized blocks

LET US UNITE AND SIEZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION!

capitalism is a virus

>don't want to own anything
>my house

Are you really that fucking stupid? Yes, yes you are.

there are in the outskirts insider is research and then apartments or houses.

interesting

stop discriminating against other biological organism you microphobe

What do you think capitalism and socialism are?

You assume far too much. This is not black and white. Socialism is a scale. America was more socialized in the 60s than now for example.

user, if your understanding of economic systems is from American high school texts, please branch out.

"my house" better?

im triggeredddddd

>unite
>seize

So starting a company, growing it into a profitable empire, so you can steal it and destroy the company. Then what? Everyone stands in line for bread.

Fucking idiots everywhere.

maybe if it was something like an undeniable thing in the culture, but that can be turned around with time too. Its easier in the long run to take away freedoms than gain them back

The trickle down effect only applies to shit

You're right user.

Will you let me use your internet? I can't really afford mine and since you have some, would you mind if you shared it with me and your neighbors?

VIVA LA PROLETARIAT

thats communism

communism is inherently totalitarian, socialism is the little brother that doesn't give a fuck what you do as long as you don't fuck over other people.

>if your response is that the laws dont explicitly say "fuck minorities" please do not bother responding

What are you even talking about? You're just backing up my point. The left has been taken over by this bullshit that has nothing to do with anything I was even saying.

Also, you have no understanding for what identity politics is if you honestly think it's a harmful term for civil rights. Identity politics IS harmful to liberal ideology. Identity politics is the actual term for an actual school of thought based on critical theory developed by german sociologists, and it is batshit insane. If you find the term harmful, that's because it obviously is to all of society. Obviously harmful, as it was a major reason why the left lost the election. Obviously harmful why, when any classical liberal person tries to discuss economics or literally anything else, the whole brainwashed left just start shouting some -ism and get absolutely no where. It's a major problem for political discourse and actual progressivism.

i feel like it is happening now. I carry guns and get labeled a liberal for thoughts about the economy

my nigga

She said, while spending other peoples money to safeguard other peoples interests.

This is an excellent thread! This is what Sup Forums should be! This and intelligent memes and lots of cheesy pizza...

can we use semantics and give a definition of these systems.

"your rented government section 8 apartment" sounds about your speed genius. And yes, they will come in to inspect your subsidized housing whenever they want.

Communism is the future and only logicsl future

Trickle down only applies to people who work for a living, not grooming your neckbeard in mama's basement.