Am I behind in life?
I'm 27 years old, still living with mother, not working full time, just started university, haven't been in a relationship in 3 years. Only have 4,000 dollars saved up.
Reason I ask is cause I see some of my old "friends" who graduated got married and already buying there first houses. Really starting to think to just stop going to school and work full time.
you need to finish a bachlors. If you skip out you will not make much better than minimum wage
however if you are not driven enough after school you are stuck making minimum wage.
Join the military, gain skills
you need to get off your ass and make shit happen. stop waiting for something to happen for you.
ah yes, the fabled skills of "standing around watching for people" and "lifting heavy things". oh, and don't forget "extremely good at bed making". perfectly qualified for a high school janitor/hall monitor.
Ok. Have fun making minimum wage while your parents slowly hate you and your parasitic life style
Wtf am I suppose to do more? I'm taking full time credits and working 30 hours a week. Only day I truly have a day to myself is sundays. I haven't been partying or anything.
Double this. I joined when I was 21, but I gained a shit load of skills in many different areas. The pay is great, lots of benefits you won't find at 90% of civilian employment.
one day at a time man. just focus on getting good grades
Crusty faggot who knows nothing detected.
can OP really join in his late 20's tho?
If you're doing fulltime schooling, then that's what you should focus on and get it out of the way as soon as possible, rather than dick around and get distracted by other shit. Many of your friends are "out getting houses" because they already did this (got shit out of the way). You're 27 and just starting which makes me think you probably spent your early 20s fucking around. Time to sack up.
Absolutely. I've seen E2s in their late 20s
Alright, I feel like I gotta step in here.
First of all, the fucking retards on Sup Forums aren't the ones I'd be asking advice from on this topic.
Secondly, NO, you're not terribly far behind. You've got to realize that the average person with a bachelors degree is financially dependent on their parents until they're 26.5 years old (SOURCE since you fags will all ask - The Quarterlife Crisis by Dr. Meg Jay). In fact, things have gotten worse economically since that book was written, so dwell on that for a second.
Second of all, a bachelors degree is not a royal road to making above minimum wage. Even if you do, you'll have so much debt that it might not even be worth it.
Consider the following:
Going to a REPUTABLE programming bootcamp (if you're smart). I recommend Software Craftsmanship Guild or Hack Reactor, but you really have to be smart to succeed at either of those places.
Joining the Air Force. Just know that the Army, Marines, and Navy have high rates of unhappiness and suicide (trust me I was MOS 11B in the army).
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I'm 29 years old, still in Mom's basement, just got laid off from seasonal job, no post-secondary (2 failed attempts) never had serious relationship despite 4 girls strongly interested in me. No savings. Yeah, I think I'm behind in life.
Go ahead, Sup Forums, call me a fucking retard, or a fucking pussy, or a faggot, or whatever else you edgy little 14 year olds can come up with. Whoever you are, or think or are, I'm certain I don't care about your opinion if it's negative. Hit me with your shittiest comments.
I am personally enrolling at 30. 4 more years to fuck around and travel.
You are a wise and honorable person. I wish you the best of luck in this world.
Your mom is whore however
"The Army has the highest cutoff age for new recruits at 42, which was increased from 35 in 2006. The cutoff for the Navy is 35, the Marines is 28 and the Air Force is 27."
army.mil
Definitely the best way to learn skills and get paid with little other experience.
Joining the military is a great stepping stone for people who are falling behind or don't have direction. You get insight from people all around the world who have different specialties. Lots of volunteer programs you can go to, or use your GI Bill to pay for you school.
Dont compare yourself to others. If you see someone doing very well in life at an early age they are usually heavily supported by their parents. If you are building up everything on your own its ok to do everything a little later.
I would but its not like I'm in any better situation. I mean, I'm 20, still a virgin despite getting close 3 fucking times. Like in bed with them close.
Now not having sex before 20, that's being behind
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Consider just going and learning a trade. People who do underwater welding make like $25 an hour. Welding, being an electrician, auto mechanics -- all lucrative professions. It sucks working out in the cold but you'll be able to own your own house eventually and won't have a ton of debt.
I would suggest starting a business but I don't think that's for you. No offense but if you're a layabout than you'll suck at it.
Also, you could always go to graduate school with the other lazy people. People will assume you're some kind of genius and you'll be in a better situation than you are now.
Yes, you're behind in life.
military is good because they teach you a decent mindset if you stick with it.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you only get one life on this planet. Most zygotes never make it this far. We're a minority to be here -- cognizant, alive, and past infancy.
And you pretty much fucked up your one shot so far.
Plus you generally get preferential treatment when applying for jobs.
23 and in a similar situation
I've thought about the military too.
I have a dual US-Israeli citizenship. I could go zionist-mode and help world jewry if I like.
I'm the guy whose comment you responded to.
I only first had sex at age 22, and lost my "virgin anxiety". With that out of the way, I lost interest in having more sex. I have no desire to brag to other guys with "locker room talk" about sexual conquests; I've only had sex 3 times and that was enough for me to stop stressing about the issue.
Nothing really matters.
Really? I've fucked up? So what. I'm only 29 you fucking retard, don't you think I will get more chances?
Nothing Really Matters
Just go to fucking trade school and learn a good skill. Youre wasting time at uni
OP here
I did fuck around my first 3 years after high school and mostly focused making money but it got tiring really quick. What really got me here is some serious family problems that came up when i was 22. Lost 2 jobs cause of it and had to stop going to school to save money. However things have gotten better the last 2 years. Also I kinda still dont know what i really want to do in life. Got 2 associate degrees and one lab tech certification(which i never used...)
Weird. I wanted to insert musical notes to that post Alt+14 symbol is not allowed.
Nothing really matters until you make it matter
Yea, I just want to get it out of the way. I've lied to all my flatmates about having sex though. Its all they talk about. It drives me insane.Then they tell me that they'll help me pull and they do fuck all. Man, I just think I should hire a prostitute and get it out of the way
You're grossly underestimating this wages. 25 is more like a regular refinery welder. The under water dudes make double I think
Go Zionist. I could only wish I could have the opportunity to kill savages for a living
>paying for a woman
>in 2016
ISHYGDDT
we all learn the same thing in life in the end user, everything in between is just keeping up with change. stay wise
they probably give up on you because you don't have the same enthusiasm or ability they do in social situations. Don't worry about pulling tail, in the end, it doesn't make anything easier no matter how much sex you've had. keep your morals strong.
Thy don't even give up, they don't do anything in the first place.
I mean I try, but I guess I'm just not meant to breed
well its better than having 12k+ debt in student loans and no job, also fuck having kids and wife when you can have a condo and whores, big picture is what you should be focused on.
You have till 37 to join
go get a pretty dress and let real men fuck you sissy bitch
And what the hell are you talking about with grad school. This guy hasn't even finished a BA or BS. and I worked my. Ass off at grad school
well maybe you need to initiate a guys night out, and convince them to be your wingman. they have lives too, they can't be too bothered to get your sorry ass some pussy. If you manage to do that, then I hope they still have a good party attitude and have a good night with you and go after different girls
median hourly wage for welders is like 18/hr m8
they tend to work like 60 hour weeks so they'll pull like 60k at that rate, but it's not fun.
To the 29 year old guy can you place make your own thread. All of the replies are going to you now...
Trades.
I'm a plumber making 45 an hour with benefits. I like my job.
You can't be lazy though. You gotta do all the bitch work for awhile.
sharing is caring user, this is a good life talk thread
4 girls in 29 fucking years? What the fuck is wrong with you?
big words for a virgin
Serious butthurt.
I was assuming finishing undergrad first.
It's not like it's hard to get into graduate school.
You definitely are behind. I am a year younger than you, most of the way to a bachelor's degree in a lucrative field, working full time at the moment, and I am also behind.
Do school if you can gather the funds for it. If not, work full time or overtime.
Stop this. This is the mindset of the 1st world wageslave.
>There is only one way to live and it is college, career, house, and staying in one place until I die
There are farmers in rural asia, tech entrepreneur's in syria, and web developers in afghanistan: are they "behind in life" because they didn't follow the plan that corporate overlords laid out?
Tomorrow those friends of your could get hit by a car and crippled. They could have a stoke and not know their own parents. They could get cancer and waste away while spending all their money on chemo.
The "life" we are led to believe is the only way to live is so incredibly fragile that a 10 second event can undo a decade of preperation and saving. Don't live for the future because it may never come and it will definetly not be as you plan. Enjoy life now and do what makes you happy, if anyone tries to shame you for not doing what they do, wish them happiness on their journey and walk away because they just want you to validate them.
porn can really distract from the need for human contact
>30 years old
>no permanent residence
>part time job after 6 years of unemployment
>never started college
>never been in a relationship
>have less than $20 on hand and don't get paid for another week
Remember: It could always be worse.
Very good user.
Give this man a cookie
yep I am 100% confirmed virgin, faggot
cracked.com
Read this. Twice. Then go CLOSE motherfucker
This is actually kind of wise.
You should still save money for the future and be responsible but I like this guy's attitude.
You have all the time in the world.
31 both parents. Moved back with parents. and single for two years. Stopped going to bars a lot still drink alone time to time. Trying to quit cigs. Full time job. Average looking. 3 to 6/10 looking. High web and graphics and cooking 7 to 8 / 10 and manual work skills 9/10. 6/10 electronics. 3/10 carpentry. 6 to 9/10 mental stability. 4/10 cars. 4/10 gardening. 7/10 health. 2/10 sleeping. 3/10 confidence. 3/10 social skills. 6/10 weiner. 12/10 addictive personality. 2/10 financial stability... for now. Youre fine just bloomin late. I chased the wrong things to early in life. Im accepting me now. Just need to bring.me back to my good old self without all the shit.
OP here
Thanks for the insight anons.
Looks like thread is kill soon.
Go with the knowledge we have blessed you with today
That or kill yourself. Good luck friend !
Yeahhhh. I agree with him too.. buuuttt.... some people dont have that limiter. Say you do everything in your power to plan and you die. Well. Thats it. You done. But say you go nuts and do everything crazy. Hunter s thompson style . Blow all bridges and burn all money. Fukit? No. What if youre still healthy after you hit bottom and jave 80 years to go. What then.
I have a few friends that joined up and when they got out they still had none of these skills you speak of. And had to start at the bottom as temps and so the armyed forces isnt the answer
Horrible advice now. There's too many people in the military, the army is cutting people out by the thousands. Those beautiful limetime benefits they promise you? All gone. You're booted along with the rest of them in mass "layoffs". Only retards would join the military now.
Am I behind in life, I only have a million dollars, a three story house, a pet faggot, and a dog. I'm conservative jewish instead of orthodox, and i haven't been in a relationship in two days.
Shit. Source? Im not joining but i did not know that
Keep living, do what you want.
Same user that wrote the big thing but I don't believe in afterlife or god. The only thing that should drive anyone to so anything what they want to do, and that is distorted by being barragged since childhood about what we SHOULD want and SHOULD do. If you want to go nuts and fuck around and kill and other shit go for it, and have a plan or desire for what to do the next day. I'd argue what you are saying is true of the opposite:
People will go to college, buy a house, settle down with a family, and...now what? This is why mid life crises are a thing, people realize late in life that the things they have that they were led to believe were valuable and would make them happy don't, they have neglected their own desires and are now stuck in their life.
yes, but they had children. They have learned the value of sacrifice, and have someone they truly love to leave behind everything they worked for. They will have someone there for them when they die. Not having kids scares me. but, I also think that any kids that I would have, would be much happier left at peace, without life. I realize that life is an amazing gift, but it is still painful. I just want the ones I love to be at peace.
Besides I'm not saying don't have a job or spend every cent you get. But don't save tens of thousands thinking "One day I'll have what I want". Want less, spend more on experiences and not on materials. You can live very comfortably at 30-40 with even a moderate attempt at saving, while a 23 year old who makes bank can get a big house but what actual purpose does the square footage serve besides as a status symbol?
Don't save it all. Don't spend it all. Worry more about your life now and not your life later.
Education is important. So is working. do both. I can, and do. I have a full time while im working on finishing my masters in risk management. Also have a part time weekend job i do. Anytime left over is spent studying and reading. Im 23 and still live at home. Start saving. Dont worry about your damned friends, theyll foreclose themselves for getting a house so soon.
Btw marriage is a fools errand. Dont do it just because everyone else is, and wait till youre at least 45.
Once, but how would your parents feel if they knew the constant burden of achievement society puts on you?
This entire site is filled to the brim of people who are unironically really fucked up because they think they are trash since they don't fuck like in the movies, or have a $100,000 at 25. Do you think your income matters to your parents? Does it make them happy to know their child thinks themselves lesser and insignificant because of the amount of paper he recieves bi-weekly?
I would want my child to be happy. To rule his life and his world. And that doesn't mean going to college to learn to do something he doesn't care about to earn money he doesn't need.
If anything trying to "provide" for your spawn by always working and hardly interacting with them is the greatest tragedy society perpetrates today.
I don't know about that. it sounds like you think the motivation for people to have children is that they want their kids to lust after sex and be greedy. But that's not true. Life in our society is an incredible opportunity that they wanted to share with us, and I don't know about yours, but mine worked their asses off to give me the best life possible. They did it out of pure love, and we got to share the journey together.
I made it hard on them though. I failed at the university they paid for and ended up being a substance abusing porn addicted loner. I have so much I want to say to them, but the emotional connections just aren't there for me to do so. It would come off as forced and seem unnecessary.
Also, not to go on a tangent, but "sacrifice" is bullshit. Not your use of it, but that way of thinking.
Responsibility is society's chains. You are a better greater man for having as many responsibilities as possible. To work, to society, to friends, to family. If you don't explicitly care about your boss' business, the business of the man who pays you a fraction of what your job is worth and keeps your time hostage, you are a shitty person. If you don't feel the need to spend years and copius amounts of money being "responsible" and going to college, you are a lazy bum. When I said people will try to shame you, this is what I mean.
You should never be beholden to be responsible for anything, that is the way other will trap you and tell you your dreams and ideals are foolish and lazy, that you must "contribute" like everyone else; though the vast majority of everyone's contributions don't benefit themselves. You will be held responsibly for everyone and everything, and nothing will ever have the same loyalty for you.
I've never had someone be able to actually describe why responsibility is a good thing, besides that's just WHAT it is, that's the way it is.
That's the opposite of what I'm saying and you are proving it here. Your family gave you everything good that you have and are. And society has worked your entire life to take those away. Take away your self worth, by telling you that you are scum for abusing substances, while criminalizing your act and barring you from holding desirable jobs for said criminal record. It tells you that you are a loser for watching porn and not having sex, while every commercial and TV that our children are exposed to is tits and asses. If you don't like things about yourself that's OK and they can and should change if that's what YOU want. It's too late for you mentally I think, we will just have differences on view where I believe you think these negative aspects are objectively bad. And using a shit ton of heroin and letting yourself rot is bad, but watching the product of one of the largest industries in the world doesn't make you evil because others say so. I honestly believe you have more worth than the 1m making businessman who makes his fortune buying and crushing small family owned joints and telling others they are garbage if they don't work in his new store for minimum wage. That to me is a monster, and one of the reasons people like you are so unhappy.
, as someone who works shitty jobs at near minimum wage I know this feeling all too well.
having to sacrifice your time and energy for someone else's greed is certainly a bad feeling, but it is the world we live in. We all must find a way to make ends meet. At the end of the day, what matters is what you do with what you've been able to make, and the effort you put into it.
Our society is capitalistic, which means you earn what you can, and no one can tell you you have to spend it on anyone else, except for what keeps our country running smoothly(taxes) and this applies to the people we work our asses off for, only giving us what they have to. With this in mind, I find your response to be all too familiar.
If those people want to be greedy, then that is their sin, it isn't our place to tell them otherwise, and that is democracy for you.
To wit, I think that many of the people here can say through experience or what they've seen in others that there is a radical shift in happiness and priority after high school and you are expected to be "responsible".
Family relationships suffer while you leave for years, or forever, for college and a career.
Stress goes through the roof, while public infustructure to help depression and stress atrophy so that Nike and McDonalds can get that funding.
You try and spend time with you women or man you love, but you need to plan around your 10 hour 6 day work weeks.
People drown out the malaise of their life by clubbing, drugs, alcohol, pointless sex, and all the while these things erode what little self worth they have left, and they are ashamed of it all the while.
I certainly don't think I can change society, but I refuse to accept that the way it is can be defined in any way as "good".
Our prison systems are privately owned an operated, keeping people in conditions considered torture 100 years ago. They have obliterated the majority of educational and rehablitiative courses while fostering gang culture utopias. Someone who goes in on a drug possession can, after half a decade of parole denial, leave prison a mentally disturbed gang member. They will sell drugs, break into property, hurt citizens in your neighboorhood, but no one thinks its their problem. The criminal deserves it they say.
Our taxes pay for our soldiers to secure the oil and resources of other countries, while private oil and gas such as Exxon literally fund the terrorists killing our troops sent to secure their oil (Exxon paying the Kurdish government while U.S fought in Iraq for instance).
Healthcare and social services are left in the dust while the majority of our capitalist society dedicates their money to sex, bling, decadence. Our science is a fucking joke and our schools are barely floating while athletes make millions.
I don't accept for a second that the system is OK, I know I can't change it, hut I won't buy into it and help it grow.
which is why having children is so important to those people. Without it, they might not know how to find a sense of purpose.
With their thought processes based on western influences, consumerism, capitalism, it is no wonder that they would feel lost. They are tricked into thinking that money and materials are what humans live for. But we all know that that is an endless pit of desire. You can pour all your effort into desire for worldly goods and pleasures, and it will never be enough. You will always want more, just like food. It is the constant changing nature of our world. Impermanent and unsatisfactory.
Without someone to live for, someone to sacrifice your efforts for, they get pulled into what St.John of the Cross first described as "a dark night of the soul". Thinking that their happiness lies in this world, and there is nothing else, and seeing that no matter what they put in there is not enough, and eventually it all gets taken away, leaves one with an absolute feeling of dread.
You are so behind that you could fuck yourself in the ass.
Being a father is good. Being a mother is good. It teaches us the meaning of sacrifice, compassion, love.
But is it necessary? There are 7.2 billion human lives on this planet, all as lost as we are. All sharing the same realm of nature. No, it is not necessary to have a wife and kids to learn the importance of compassion, and loving-kindness. Our relationship with the universe is purely dependent on our own minds. There absolutely is a path to give meaning and purpose to our lives without having to chase after money, after sex.
there's nothing wrong with going to school at 27, but why are you going to school? are you trying to accomplish something real or are you just dicking around?
>I know I can't change it
unfortunate circumstance of our society. we think there is no way to improve the lives of others as there is no viable means of doing so. Fortunately, our lives are not restricted to America. There are other societies and ways of thinking that we can join, ones where we really can improve the lives of others and live the way we really want to deep inside.
We just have to make the sacrifice. Growth doesn't lie in in money, or materials. It lies in our ability to accept and go through change. This is what life is. It is what life will always be.
I love Sup Forums, I feel so superior to everyone. I mean, a normal person would feel superior here, let alone someone as successful as me.
>calls himself superior
>is a Sup Forumstard
True, but it isn't particularly better in the rest of the world and part of that is America's fault. Slavery, terrorism, and dictators are increasingly funded by American privately owned companies. Entire countries have suffered for decades because of our wealth and how we spend it. In the same vein, I don't think things are hopeless because of the common man, but because the voices and actions of 100,000 citizens can be swept aside by the mechinations of the elite. The everyday decisions of ceos and tycoons cost thousands of people their jobs and livelihood. The backroom politics of Washington can undo the protests and outcry of a hundred thousand. The bribe of a single billionaire can affect more change than an entire state.
Bullshit. I make $50k a year with 3 years experience. You have to be willing to start low since you'd be new. Start at the bottom and learn everything you can as quickly as you can and you'll be able to seize opportunities as they rise.
Not me though I so agree on the poplation thing.
I'm not sure what you think but I fully support family and having children. I think the only true happiness in life comes from family and experiences with loved ones. Having children is great, having a child and neglecting them to "give them a future" which is exactly the same life you had (it they are lucky and don't suffer a health crisis) is not good.
I've had to struggle quite a bit to find my center, and I've had many people including my best friend of a decade commit suicide at 18, and I will never forgive or forget what I saw the burden of society do to him and many like him. If I ever have children I will do everything in my power to keep them away from anything resembling college, a career, etc. If that's what they truely want I will support it, but I don't think anyone truely wants to work to live. I know I don't.
I should mention im 27, single, no kids. I'm living a great life, fuck bitches when i want, get a gf when i want, usually dump em or self sabotage a few months later. I wont lie though, you gotta be on your game without a degree, people will question you until you get a decent amount of experience
My only advice is to do what you wanna do OP dont worry about others and their houses etc its overrated. I worked hard and now i have a place of my own (25yrs old) but i missed out on a lot for it, there is no gain without sacrifice and i say dont be thrown into that ses pool of wanting to work all because others are doing shit - DO WHAT YOU WANT
I'm sorry I don't follow. Everyone has to work to live. That is what humans do. How else do we get food? It is hard to tell how they will be able to make ends meet in their time. Maybe college will be absolutely necessary by then, we can't tell
What do you have associate degrees in?
Can you do tech related shit?
That's splitting hairs over definition.
You can work to live in communes that practice free trade, you can work to live by growing your food and building your own house, you can work to live by taking odd jobs and not spending more than a month on one country.
I meant work to live as in a 9-5 job that you don't care about and doesn't benefit you except monetarily. In a perfect world everyone would "work" by doing what they love and contributes to the good of the community.
I understand. The kind of work where your sacrifices only go to line some greedy business pockets, and then line your own as much as you can. Truly an empty existence on it's own.