Beats superman

>beats superman
>doesn't say the most iconic batman line ever written from the comics
>gives up because of the most insane coincidence
>muh louis lane
Directors cut or not, this was shit

I am so so on this 2bh. It does not bother me as much as you do, but Im sure Clark saying 'Mother' would have sufficed.

Also that is the worst looking doomsday I could have imagined

>but Im sure Clark saying 'Mother' would have sufficed.
This
"YOU'RE LETTING THEM KILL MOM!"
"DON'T LET THEM KILL MOM"
"MOTHER!" ," MOM!"
"PLEASE! MY MOM!"
"THEY HAVE MY MOM!"
any mention of his mother in any way would be reason enough for batman to stop killing superman and listen to him for a second

You quite literally didnt get it. Go back and read your funny book.

this is fucking retarded, kiddo I hope you'll never become a writer in your life

Martha was fine

Explain

Who? Seriously. Who?
Supermans mommy? Who could that be in the whole world?


Go save Martha Kent, or go save muh mommy? Which would be better to share right now at this moment?

>you're about to die
>instead of calling out "mom" you call your mother's first name
bullshit

Batman should have just killed superman

Bats is still traumatized from the events of the previous movie.

>Martha was fine
Do you call your mother by her first name?
I don't know anyone who does

It would have humanized him to Bruce
Also batman can't sit around while scum are murdering people

>iconic batman line

What's that?

confirmed 2deep4u
go take your petty muh comicbook canon complaints to faggot
not much point in arguing with you imbeciles

there are people that honestly didn't understood the martha scene, or is this just a meme?

>call police
>says "burglars are breaking into my house please help!"
>or "burglars are breaking into 16 Edison Ln. where I live please help"

The first should suffice?

>I want you to remember the one man who beat you

>We could have changed the world... now loook at us...I've become a political liability...and you...you're a joke... I want you to remember, Clark...In all the years to come... in your most private moments... I want you to remember my hand at your throat... I want you to remember the one man who beat you...

>people are actually defending this movie
I even liked Man of Steel. But I can't excuse this.

Snyder had nigger general read the line to announce BvS originally, because he was the only one around with a decent voice and Affleck wasn't cast yet.

Not the same
Saying mom and saying martha are the same amount of information to batman as far as what he needs to do

You don't understand the movie.

>they should use line that doesnt fit the plot at all because its in my cartoon

Ugh

that doesn't fit the film

You need it stated to you that Bruce doesn't know Clark Kent is Superman? Well okay

Bruce does not know Clark Kent is Superman.

Gee, it's not like half of Aflecs lines about superman up to that point were about how he was a false god who though he was above mankind or anything. Oh wait, they were exactly that.

>implying Bruce knows who Clark Kents mother is
why the fuck would he know that

For what it's worth the comic he's referring to, The Dark Knight Returns is leagues better than BvS both in the depth of the narrative and the strength of the characters.

If you disagree I strongly suggest that you read it and get back to me.

Martha causes more impact on Batman than "mom"

Bruce let his mom (Martha) die that night

He wouldn't tonight

Jesus fuck ypu mongoloids, stick to Disney

Bruce does not know who "Martha" is
Bruce does not know who "Martha Kent" is
Bruce does not know what's happening to "Martha Kent"
Bruce does not know where "Martha Kent" is
Saying "Martha" gives the same amount of information in this case as "Mom" you still have to explain all the same shit

That's gay. No wonder this movie sucked. Shit source material.

Parents don't have to be named Martha and Thomas to hit home for Bruce

Normal people also don't call their parents by their first names casually when their distressed

>doomsday kills superman by being killed by superman
how the fuck was this approved

I still believe in my idea that DC should forego any shit "universe" fuckery and just make verbatim translations from their renowned comics. Each movie a recast if it needs to.

A direct adaptation from the comic would have blown audiences away.

I was cool with Man of Steel. This movie shit all over that hope.

Batman can find Martha Kent. He cannot find "my mommy"

>Martha Kent, look that up, Alfred.
>A Martha Kent from Smallville, Kansas, disappeared yesterday, sir.
>Did any of Lex Luthor's goons fly there yesterday.
>Yes
>Okay where are they now?

Are they still the same? Are "mommy" and Martha Kent still the same???? Tell me, really.

TELL ME!

>it makes sense if you add lines that were never in the movie
ok

>Alfred, Google "Superman's mom"
>Alfred, Google "Martha Kent"

Same exact results. No difference at all.

such a slow boring fight too

neither thing happened so not sure what the fuck you're arguing

Yes they are
no one disappears after only a day and supes would have told him she was taken anyway making looking up martha kent pointless
supes still would have told him who took her
so you could just skip to the "where are they now" batbullshit

Do you get confused about simple things often?

Superman saying "Martha" causes a shock to Batman

"Save Martha"

Batman is both confused (What did Superman mean by this?) and mad he couldn't save her that night and it stops him from killing Supes

Everything after is explained to him by Lois, did you watch the film?

...

Read
Also the "everything" you're talking about is just the fact that martha is his mom
So less explaining would have to be done if he just said mom

>Why did he say Martha?
So that Batman would know who to save instead of having something as vague to go on as "my mom".
>Why did Batman stop wanting to kill him?
That brute force intercut of the flashback should tell enough to anyone with a working brain. Batman is Joe Chill now, and he didn't want to be.

I wont entertain any arguments against this. The hangups on the Martha scene dull me from listening to any real criticisms of the film.

Hoping this will be in the solo Batfleck film

again mom gives the same amount of information
Read the thread

bruce as a kid wouldn't have been screaming martha he would have been screaming mom

because he's a kid and has a loving parent

Mom would have triggered his flashback and revelation

what if supes knew bruce's mom was named martha and played it for the shock value?

It's out of character
Superman isn't a manipulator or especially smart in these movies

"You're a big guy"

but i think it's better argument than the "CUZ IT LETS HIM KNOW WHO TO SAVE" as if batman took off directly after hearing the word "Martha"

but a life and dead situation is probably a good chance to play all your cards. superman isn't that clueless, anyway

>this guys about to kill me
>ill beg for the live of my mommy instead of giving him any identifying information about her before he stabs me with this glowy spear
>"Youre letting him kill my mommy!"
>*stabbed*

>"Youre letting him kill my mommy!"
>Batman letting anyone kill anyone elses mommy
He's stlll batman even if he is Bat of Slaughter

Why is everyone moaning? Its clearly obvious that Batman was going to stab his arm to keep him still

He is a journalist and he did know who Bruce was during the fight so i can see this making sense
I still feel like mom would have been a better choice though

>tfw they've ruined both superman and batman again

nolan did so well too

It actively does not make sense.

>nolan did so well too
No
Baleman wasn't batman
He was just a guy in hockey pads
And batman isn't ruined at this point
He is still very redeemable

Which? Mom or him using it against bruce?
What's your argument

How was he supposed to know if batman knew who his mother was? He gave him her fucking name.

Because that one line of dialog wasn't meant to be enough information for him to go save the day
It was just a plea for help
he also doesn't need her name to track her down
In fact it wouldn't help at all
He would just need to know who took her
Her name is irrelevant

He would obviously tell him her name afterwards dumbass. The fact of the matter is saying mom should have the same result to get him to stop fighting. He can give the details afterwards autist

can we all agree that like "save my mother. martha" would have done the job just fine

I'm good with that

I always figured Supes was trying to get out "Martha....Kent" but couldn't get that far. "Save my mom" doesn't give him a lot of info.

Neither does martha kent
This has already been argued

apparently not, snyder wanted it this way so that batman can act baffled as to why he's saying martha and only think about his own mom

I think the scene works because conceptually it's strong enough to stand above a misstep in execution.

If I were to change it, I would go:

>Urghk...Please...!
>he's going t...!
>You...you're...letting him kill Martha...
>Ughhrk

Marvel - 15 movies, no dead heroes
DC - Resorted to dead hero trope in movie 2.

Quicksilver

>>muh louis lane

>mfw they're setting her up to be critically important in the upcoming movies
When will studios realize no one gives a fuck? People are just there to watch their favorite superheroes.

>Superman has Batman totally at his mercy at the begining
>doesn't explain anything, just tosses him around even though his mother's life is in danger

SNYDER YOU FUCKING HACK

>cant backup their argument without resorting to memes.

>Hey bruce i know you we had are differences but this guy lex luthor is trying to do some fucked up shit

>batman tries bursting his ear drums

>Okay cut it out bruce i need your help because lex is going to kill my mom and i don't know what to do. he told me i had to kill you but i don't want to

>batman proceeds to shoot the fuck out of him

>bruce you don't understand

> DIE ALIEN SCUM

>When will studios realize no one gives a fuck?
A lot of people do care about lois.

About to watch it for the first time but should I be watching the original release or this ultimate edition nonsense?

Ultimate
It's better regardless if you actually like the movie or not

pretty universal that the ultimate edition fixes a lot of issues with the theatrical, so why the fuck would you want to watch a lesser version? i hated the film but if the longer cut fixes shit, then thats what you should watch.

I pity those people then.

ultimate>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>theatrical

the flow of the film is much better and I didn't check how long is left on a 3hour film which was strange.

Alright thanks and I was only asking because I wanted to see what the ultimate edition improved upon in the regular release.

Funnily enough, your opinion isn't worth shit apparently, because the writer does care about those people and Lois, so he wrote her as a central point to the plot.

why would bruce tell a guy to remember something in his private moments if he plans on killing the dude right then and there

he doesn't give up, he realizes he's wrong

you fucking retarded cunt, you actually expect batman to say THAT line on their first encounter?

Cops have caller ID
Also
>it's not the cops breaking in to your house

user you responded to here. Just got done watching it a little bit ago and honestly, it was pretty shit. The best thing about it was Batfleck.

>beats superman
>doesn't say the most iconic batman line ever written from the comics

there is no point in saying that line, when he is gonna kill him anyway.

fair enough. least you watched it. I look forward to the Batman film

Who the fuck is this

Steppenwolf, one of Darkseid's cronies