He was seriously the best president we've ever had

He was seriously the best president we've ever had.

>b-b-b-b-but obama care

Shut the fuck up, you can afford it. You have been for 6 years now.

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Truth,

He didn't do shit.
He was a walking teleprompter, going through the motions.
I seriously don't get why people love him so much.
Attach his vanilla as fuck presidency to a generic white guy. Nobody would care then.

he did lots of shit. I'd name them all but this is Sup Forums, no one is paying me and fuck you go google it.

>you can afford it

Oh my sweet child

Yeah, no. Implementating health insurance was a major accomplishment. Calm, calculated, sans drama. A bit lax on foreign policy, but that was in response to the Super aggressive fuck you stance from bush's administration

Kek, you can't even say why you like him.

>Guantanamo Bay still open.
>I personally am 4k in debt from the new healthcare I got, my old plan would have covered my expensise.
>Continued mass surveillance.

He did a fucking lot

see

I can

No he wasn't He was ineffectual in a Republican run congress. At least Reagan was able to compromise and get shit done in the same situation.

He is a charming lawyer that is a great orator, and suckers really gush over superficial bullshit like that, so people want to magnify the significance of his presidency.

What I do give him, is he wasn't involved in a bunch of embarrassing scandals or anything and represented the US well diplomatically. I also liked that he pardoned a ton of non-violent offenders, and was pretty vocal on drugs and gay being acceptable in our society.

None of that is a huge achievement though, more that it will trend towards slow, future social change.

I'm sure this is the cheapest option and you looked into what is being offered
>Calm, calculated, sans drama
lol no

>implementating
Not even going to correct you. Just going to laugh. You probably voted for Hillary because "waah Drumpf hurt my feewings"

>o-of course i can.

Obama ran in 2008 against gay marriage he only was vocal about it before his 2012 campaign

LOL

but i can

As someone who has always had health insurance a standard procedure like getting a STD text pretty much is 3 times as expensive now that Obamacare has been implemented and is fucking up things like copays. This shit doesn't live in a bubble and is far from free.

My solution, don't get tested as often, and possibly spread shit.

Obamacare is shit.

>claims he can
>refuses to back up claim with evidence
No wonder you like Obama.

Kek

George W. Bush was the best president, much better than Obama

This. The only thing about Obongocare that is reasonable is the "pre-existing condition" clause. Why would I want to pay for health insurance if I never get sick? A one-off trip to the hospital is unlikely to cost as much as years of health insurance, and even if it did, your premiums would go up because you're a "high-risk candidate".

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>reduced the annual deficit
This is so blatantly wrong that I can't even laugh at it.

>not understanding its the insurance and health care companies that fuck everyone over
>not having a job that provides health insurance
>not understanding your shit insurance wouldn't have helped you when you needed it

>not understanding that he has to have health insurance or Obongo will come after him and demand payment for some strange reason

These numbers are insanely inflated because he became president during the worst financial crisis since the depression, anyone could've "helped the economy" so much because it couldn't have possibly gotten worse

you know its broken when you have to pay more than your rent every fucking month for your health

Yeah, but it's not even fully implemented...

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>Resorts to Google to generate his opinions
Current year, I guess.

all he did was make my state more poor
the mandatory insurance fucked things up

what you gonna do bout it faggot

See Most of his "accomplishments" are trivial things that don't really matter (transgender bathroom rights), things outside of his control (economy), or just him being "muh first black president".

As if the president has any control over the stock market.
As if it wasn't the fact that the federal reserve kept interest rates obscenely low to make obama look better
As if they didn't just announce raising them to fuck over the next president.
As if.

Thanks to Obama care it is now illegal to not have health care coverage, regardless of whether or not you need it or want it. That's fucked up simply on principle.

You forgot one
>lowest labor participation rate since the 70's

They don't count that though because that would look bad for him.

>you can afford it. You have been for 6 years now.
Nope, I pay the penalty.
Why?
Because then it goes directly to covering hospital costs instead of contributing to some insurance CEO's bonus. It's not like I would use the insurance anyway, I hate doctors and have always tended my own wounds (Thanks, Boy Scouts Of America!) so if the cost of the penalty is the same as the cost of an insurance package I don't want and wouldn't use, I'm going to make sure my money goes to the hospitals.
>but insurance companies PAY hospitals
While this may be true, consider the following:
Not just the profit margin and the CEO's bonus, but his whole salary, his staff, the rent on his office, the rent on every building the insurance company uses, the computers, the tech support, the call center, the company vehicles, the advertising campaign, and the salary of every last person who works for that company comes from one thing and one thing only:
Money taken in via premiums and not paid to the hospitals.

Private insurance is a leech feeding off of the public's need for the health care system. They take money from you and only give to the hospital what they absolutely have to. We should be buying insurance directly from the hospitals, not some middle-man.

Its says right on the letter "this is not an (obamacare) marketplace plan" so you don't get the price lowering subsidies.

tbh as a non-American, I don't see why people hate him? He was no Teddy Roosevelt but he was a hell of alot better than GWB and B Clinton

Agreed

Thank you for your service, President Obama. You got us out of the Bush Recession and made me feel proud to be an American.

"you didn't buy what we wanted you to buy"

that's not how the free market works...

Also
>doubled the national debt in 8 years
>lowest homeownership rate since 1965
>continued a ridiculous war in the Middle East
>attempted to grant amnesty to thousands of illegal immigrants
>allowed in thousands of potential terrorists
And a shit ton more that I'm too lazy to type out.

Well at least Trump's gonna hopefully fix the mandatory insurance and spiking premium shit. I mean, at least there's a chance. That's more than you could say for Hillary.

he got us out into another mess

Who's fault is that?
Obama wanted the public option.
The blue dog shitheads negotiated it down to the half-measure bullshit right wing plan that is Obamacare.
Blame the republicans and the American right.
You could have had nice things like the rest of the world.

And the influx of refugees.

Only to make the next bubble about to burst even worse though.

Just in time for a Republican president to take the blame.

>anyone could've "helped the economy"
bush I didn't. bush II didn't. he blew a budget surplus.

I'm not paying for that shit. That's why I voted 3rd party. I live in Wisconsin

>be Aussie
>get sick
>see doctor
>"ay cunt I'm sick"
>"aw shit son, that'll be $40"
>"thanks cunt"
>go to medicare center after
>get $35 back
>no monthly fees
>only $80 a year for full comprehensive ambulance cover, that comes just included with your electricity bill for convenience.
Yea mate.

Most people don't actually *want* health insurance in the US. It's statistically cheaper to just pay out of pocket - one trip to the hospital every ten years isn't going to make up for ten years of insurance premiums. The only good thing about Obamacare was the pre-existing condition clause, and only because the only reason you'd need health insurance here is if you had a debilitating disorder.

>obamacare
>free market
nigga u dumb.

You're implying that the president has any real control over the economy.

I hope you enjoy your nanny-state censorship and belittlement that comes along with that.

He was a shit President, his foreign affairs policy sucked.

He shoved that crappy health care down our throats.

Can't say anything bad about him or you're a racist.

He split the Country in Half!

Never in my life have I heard a President going out bad mouth the President Elect.

Fucking aussies trying to get people to immigrate to their shithole of a country

I mean America is shit but Australia is worse

Honestly, though, I liked everything about him except "Affordable" Health Care Act.
...And since God-Emperor Trump is repealing that there won't be a reason for me to hold a grudge against Obama.
(It was Hillary's health care reform to begin with anyway)

You're an idiot who doesnt know the facts

Just passing by and read the OP troll post.

Just wanted to remind everyone that we haven't even seen Obamacare yet. Too many parts of the plan have been altered, postponed. Obamacare hasn't even happened yet because it's own creators said, "Oh shit! What have we done? Better not do this.."

funny part is that whenever yu guys get really sick, you run to the US. National Healthcare is for coughs, not Cancer!!

Im not gonna pay single cent more for lazy non working parasites fuck thats socialism

What the president did for the economy was the issue raised by OP I responded to. Try to keep up if you want to contribute.

the national debt was largely out of his control, it's more a consequence of bush jr era tax cuts and military adventures. he cut the deficit down, but it's gonna take longer than obama has to solve the problem entirely

>He was a shit President, his foreign affairs policy sucked.
not really ran on not being such interventionist fuck faces
>He shoved that crappy health care down our throats.
again ran on and was voted in twice because of that health coverage
>Can't say anything bad about him or you're a racist.
dont know what the fuck your smoking but has been a constant shit slamming him for being black since he was elected or you forget about the whole birther movement dumb fuck
>Never in my life have I heard a President going out bad mouth the President Elect.
never in your life will you see another president violate the constitution the very first day he is in office like trump is

Look spoiled children who can't fave the reality that he was exactly the same as bush only worse. Obumbles care was nothing but a tax on the middle class and working poor. Know more than a few people with crappy jobs that do that at best pay the bills even with 20 hours overtime. They don't have any health insurance can't afford it but that didn't stop the soulless democrat tax collectors from charging them 1000 dollars at the end of the year.

Yeah all the exact same things as bush but funny how people can call and apple an orange because muh feeuls

you missed the point of the comment.

Obama definitely contributed to the debt.

Go look at the levels of spending when Obama took the White House. Notice that 2 years later the spending abruptly dropped and stayed relatively low for the next 6 years.

This was because Republicans took the house and wouldn't let him put his hands in the cookie jar anymore.

Are you fucken retarded. With all means go use Bing or DuckDuckJail if you really think you will get better info you are clearly stupid.

>Obama
>Obamacare
you realize these things have almost nothing to do with each other?

Republicans renamed the legislation they originally authored in the 90's to OBAMACARE and then made horrible amendments because they knew people would be stupid enough to blame Obama.

They SHUT DOWN the government, anything that was allowed to happen went exactly as Republicans planned.

Hey you must really like bush then as well seeing as they were almost exactly the same person in reality just admit it already they were together the best presidents of all time

no it's not

learn the difference between debt and budget deficit

you have never heard of this guy?
only fucker to pay off the national debt.

It's statistically cheaper for those that don't have major health complications for their entire life.
For those that do, it's bankruptcy inducing.
That's a good 30-40% of the population getting fucked in the asshole.
Insurance is a good idea, whether that's fire insurance or automobile insurance or health insurance.

I'm so impressed by the zero facts that you brought to the discussion, retard.

You're a special kind of stupid.

Government shut down is actually the best thing that bloated bureaucracy could do. Pretty sure most people could fend for themselves and the ones that can't should learn how.

Fox or breitbart?

it could have easily gotten worse

are you even old enough to remember? Traders were literally committing suicide, plenty of people thought it was going to get a whole lot fucking worse.

Libya,Yemen,Syria,Egypt,Iraq.3,Iran nuke deal,Scarborough Shoal.
Yep, don't forget that GREAT foreign policy

"nice things like the rest of the world"

The rest of the world is a giant shit hole that wishes they were us.

Hahahahhahaha...... Hahahaha

Yeah now we have to do it from the government or be taxed no matter how poor we are of we work that is yeah great for the most useless people in society

you're a very common kind of stupid, and that sucks for the rest of us

bureaucracy is bloated because billionaires like Trump and his entire cabinet have been shoving loopholes in them for decades.

just a friendly reminder each president typically spends their entire term attempting to correct their predecessor's mess

do you even constitution?
forcing citizens to purchase a product is NOT in the constitution.

>buttblasted because someone likes a president you don't like
>they're the spoiled children

He was exactly the damn same just because the media lied about him and what he did and didn't do is the only reason he is looked on well

It's probably bloated because it gets into everyone's business.

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other people being dramatic about you does not count as you being dramatic.

First of all, if the circumstances that lead to the shutdown continued, the US would be forced to default on its debt, destroying the world economy for at least a decade.
Lifesaving government services, such as vaccinations, were put on hold.
Children in poverty weren't able to eat because of government programs put on hold, possibly leading to malnutrition and stunted brain development.
People who work for the government weren't able to get their paychecks.
Veterans were denied benefits.
Food safety operations ceased.

You're literally retarded.

trump is a russian puppet

>what was the Arab Spring
Obama took great advantage of a situation that was already changing and he did it at a small fraction of what Republicans do.

Quit being so salty you whiny bitch

America is a great country.
Your healthcare system, however, sucks donkey balls.
That and the rest of your government services.
Absolute trash.
That's an objective fact.

Yes and put the country started the worst depression right out of the gate and put us into even more debt pushing us straight into a future depression worse than the first one he started nothing funnier and more pathetic than a proud cuck

Kiwi Cunt here. Free health care here in NZ, what was wrong with Obama care?

>everyone's business
yes, cause that's how government works you stupid naive child, clearly EVERYONE'S interests are considered and laws are never made to favor certain industries and businesses

loopholes are made for the billionaires that can afford to purchase politicians, which is why they don't pay taxes.

Wake the fuck up you chump

fuck this nigger he deserves to be dragged through the streets by a truck

welcome to the real world you think you can go your whole life without a job or a drivers license?