Do you think we should drop all military support and protection to countries who don't pay up...

Do you think we should drop all military support and protection to countries who don't pay up? What about countries who don't appreciate everything we do for them?
I'd really enjoy it. Only a handful of countries we guard aren't ingrates and useless fucking invalids worth losing.

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Yes. If you don't fulfill you rend of the bargain, you can't demand that the other side does. Pacta sunt servanda, it's that simple.

NATO is a criminal organization so yeah go ahead.

2% of 10$ is nothing, but 2% of 10billion$ is a lot

>protection

are you some sorta mob?
who are you protecting us from?
we have no enemies of our own

Nato only exist to serve american interests and protect the petro dollar

Fucking this, it's ridiculous how americans have so little self-awareness.

>who are germans and russians

our friends
you really have to drop the butthurt poland

OUI MESSIEURS C'EST L'EMPIRE AMERICANO-SIONISTE FONDE SUR LE PETRO-DOLLAR HEIN
CA IL FAUT LE SAVOIR
L'ELITE GLOBALISTE OLIGARCHIQUE
LE COMPLOOOOOOT JUDEO MACONNIQUE
IL FAUT LE SAVOIR

>friends
yeah let's not get into meme territory

>friends

>americans don't realize those bases are so THEY have a better angle on Russia and the middle east

Yeah, but how would you feel if all of Europe falls under Russian control?
Do you think it would be worth the money you'd save by leaving NATO?

Ca change rien quand ON A MARRE DES ARABES

Because our defense budget would be same as russia and smaller g̶e̶r̶m̶a̶n̶ ̶c̶l̶a̶y̶ european nations would not allow that.

Don't make us laugh, your "protection" is only a mean to control the world.
The day you'll let go on NATO will just mean that you are not no 1 anymore

What we're certainly do not need more of is the land.
Crimea was necessary because our fleet is located there.

t*rks are the sub-human barbarians whose only contribution to history is fucking kebab. (Fucking sheep was taken already.)

Modern linguistic and anthropological evidence has shown that the original t*rks were actually remnant Homo erectus, specifically Wushan Man, who survived in isolated populations in the Central Asian hills. They lived a happy, peaceful life hunting with sharpened sticks and clubs, living in caves or crude yurt-like huts and wearing the untanned skins of their prey. However, around roughly 800 BC, contact with wandering Indo-Aryan nomads gave t*rks the idea to ride horses and use bows. In the next three thousand years that it took them to learn how to sit on a horse and move it forward, the t*rks bred like rats until there were enough of them to Zerg Rush the civilized nations of Persia, Anatolia and eastern Europe. And, giving themselves short guttural barbarian names like the 'Huns,' 'Khazars,' and 'Oghuz,' that is exactly what they did. Then, in order to mask their sub-human origins, they proceeded to rape everything they could lay their paws on, creating the most mongrelized excuse for an ethnic group in existence. The original t*rkic people looked like a bunch of filthy Asian bums on horseback who lived in tents. By the time they reached t*rkey, after centuries of fucking Arabs and Europeans, they looked like a mix of white people and Arabs, but some today still have that authentic Asian look.

wrong thread but enjoy the entire history of turks

>Random discussion about NATO in a bar
>Suddenly this Georgian guy rant for 10 mintues about how he hates the turks
You're alright.

Nato is the only shit preventing us from invading the balts

I am a Greek

slavs bring only problems and death

Uh... Maybe if Russia took over Europe will start uncucking itself and hang Merkel and the EU commission for high treason or some other trumped up charge

This whole "paying up" business is nothing but american extortionism

fuck off yankee

we wont be there when you need us, nor do we need you.

you're a fucking dying empire collapsing just like the USSR did anyways


Also @ dumb polaks allowed themselves to be extorted

what a shithole of fucking cowards and idiots I live in

Go home Ivan if you love Russia so much. We don't want you here anyway

Yes. And of course you should close all your bases in our territory and take back all your subhuman people who live here because of those bases

Off the top of my head we're currently building or plan to build/buy...

2 QE-class ramp carriers
7 new attack subs - Astute-class
4 new Trident nuclear-deterrent subs - Dreadnought-class
Lots of F-35b Lightning II aircraft
4 new RFA supply tankers - Wave-class
8 new Type 26 frigates
5 I think new Type 31 frigates
589 new various Ajax armoured vehicles (pic related)

We need many more ships though tbqh.

>we wont be there when you need us
Mmmm sweetie tell me how many times article 5 has been invoked and who was the one who invoked it.

>crimea was needed because our fleet is located there
>estonia was needed because our fleet used to be there
>poland was needed because a referendum
>berlin was needed because we once owned that city
>amsterdam was needed because reasons
>paris was needed because fuck you
>spain was needed because why would we stop now

Budget ratios do matter. If you paid your 2% you'd probably have to cut social programs to make up for it (or raise taxes).

Either way, Europe and Canada are due for it. You make fun of our social programs -- let's see you fund them while paying 3.5% like we've been doing the past 2 decades.

>I don't know what a defense pact is

Go back to school

>Wave-class

*Tide-class

We should just pull all our troops out of Europe and let them worry about themselves.

please do, and remove your strategical non-NATO bases from Italy while you're at it, you fucking moron.

>what we do
bringing ISIS to both Iraq and Libya? Mission Accomplished, motherfucker

>blaming us for Libya
A French and Italian campaign using American equipment?

It's all on you friend

Dont worry, ameribro, ourselves and latvians appreciate what you are doing and therefore at the start of 2018 we will reach 2%. You can count on us.

Well, we are cucked by your navy so we don't have to pay shit.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Station_Rota,_Spain

>A French and Italian campaign
dear God, none of us had ANY intention to attack Libya, you fucking moron. France got a little trigger happy when Obongo wished to bring democracy down there too, Italy never. No European country EVER IMAGINED to attack Libya. Get your head out of your ass and inform you a little.

wtf you talking about?

I give no shit about your "articles" you cocksucking yank

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>We

>France got a little trigger happy
They literally ran out of bombs to drop on Libya at some point in the war m8, that's trigger happy in only the American lexicon.

Yes you should, we are too coddled.

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Even we fucking pay >2% there's no excuse for the other leaches

We dont really need protection, the other NATO countries are the one who should feel threatened.

Do you know that Russia never invaded anyone in Europe in attempt of conquering? (Poland, Finland and Baltics doesn't count, they were a buffer so mainland Russia can't be invaded immediately from Swedes and Germans, also we need our land way towards Constantinople).
Russia invaded Europe only after the failed attempts of Western countries to attack Russia first (Napoleon, Hitler).

Russia was never a warmonger. You Western hypocrites on the other hand always tried to take our resources, divide our nation and massacre our population. Europeans and especially anglosaxons are really the scummies people on Earth.

disgusting