Now I like Man of Steel less because of Batman v Superman
All that talk about developing Superman as a character and addressing the no kill code after he had to kill Zod went down the toilet
They didn't address Superman having to kill Zod at all and for all we know he still has no problem with killing, seeing how he said he would have to kill Batman if he didn't listen.
The only thing addressed was the destruction, and it was just strawmanning the critics.
Also he became even more mopey and depressed when he was supposed to be shaping up to be the "ideal of hope" that Superman is.
In other words, BvS was a step back, instead of a step forward in the development of Superman.
You act like a superhero movie has never dealt with that idea before, when almost all of them do.
Caleb Wright
Snyder doesn't understand the characters. It's almost as if WB gave him a printout of each character's abilities, what they look like, and told him to get to work with his shitty CG and filters.
Nathan Wright
They didn't address Superman having to kill Zod at all
Except for the fact that he literally comes back to haunt him from the dead in the form of Doomsday. Couldn't be more on-the-nose you imbecile. He even bashes Clark with one of the pillars with the names of the people that died in the World Engine incident, the people Clark failed to save and were haunting his conscience. This guilt is also addressed in the mountaintop scene. Not to mention pic related. Remove yourself from the gene pool, you imbecile.
Aiden Adams
>Lex makes Zods dead body into Doomsday >Lex punishing Superman for his perceived sins >Final battle literally the ghost of the country sequences of the battle of Metropolis >Doomsday kills Superman the same fashion as Zod killed Jor El
Pack it up pham.
Henry Lewis
More recycled than Dark Souls 3
Colton Ortiz
So what? That's driving the plot, not giving any characterization, retard
And the people who died in the incident is related to the destruction, not him having to kill Zod, like I said before
Camden Russell
>They didn't address Superman having to kill Zod at all and for all we know he still has no problem with killing, seeing how he said he would have to kill Batman if he didn't listen.
>The only thing addressed was the destruction
Try again
Tyler Ortiz
>that pic
K I N O
Adam Allen
>Snyder doesn't understand the characters. confirmed retard
Kayden Bailey
Thanks for letting us know.
Hey, everyone, this user is a confirmed retard.
Gabriel Myers
GOOD ONE
Jackson Morales
Ya cap America civil war bruh
Mason Roberts
also >Superman literally prepared to die, twice, to prevent more deaths from Lex
Isaac Parker
>picture contrasts three sets of images in a manner that implies they're parallel >the images are similar only in the vaguest sense Is this what is meant by grasping at straws?
Hunter Watson
How does that address the no kill code?
Carson Butler
Are you implying that isn't the main theme of that movie?
Charles Thompson
>we could have gotten a MoS extended cut Why they released one for this and not for MOS?
Matthew Lopez
what?
Eli Rodriguez
>All that talk about developing Superman as a character and addressing the no kill code after he had to kill Zod went down the toilet
Easton Martin
Because it got shit on so hard and they're trying to salvage their universe.
Blake Gutierrez
no kill ever rules are fucking retarded, i really don't care about them.
Andrew Kelly
>low iq idiots
Zachary Brown
But I care, and they actually said that Superman killing Zod was what would have prompted him to have a no kill code
Dominic Phillips
source?
for all we know it could still develop into that, but I hope they don't since it's one of the most autistic things comics have done.
Gavin Davis
>vaguest
It's literally the same shit. You're probably one of those people who claim TFA is not a copy of ANH.
Xavier Martinez
"It’s a real world problem. And I think the effect on Superman, it is a deeply difficult decision for him to make. It’s not a thing that he takes lightly, and you can see it affects him pretty profoundly. And maybe we’ll see the repercussions of that in the next film. How that’s affected him, making that decision."
Angel Nelson
They're not "literally" the same you buffoon. I have no idea what either acronym refers to and I don't want to.
Eli Edwards
This though was when there was no plans to do BvS, and the "next film" was Man of Steel 2
Ryder Johnson
So a "maybe" from something he said before the film even got written or rewritten when he thought MoS 2 was happening?
Hudson Fisher
Yeah. The thing is: that was supposed to be addressed in the next movie. A development in the franchise.
That didn't happen, thus making me like Man of Steel less, because this was set up in it didn't have a follow up in BvS.
Oliver Myers
Just watched the movie, why was The Flash a spic with a pencil mustache?!?
That bothered me more than that jewish skeleton
Xavier Bennett
Also, BvS was basically the MoS 2 script rewritten
Cooper Murphy
and then BvS was also rewritten too.
Mason Flores
>taking literally literally >Not knowing The Force Awakens and A New Hope and expecting people to take your opinion seriously.
Jonathan Reyes
comic are such garbage
>you shall not kill your enemies even when they wish to destroy earth because we're a friendly censored comic who can't show blood
Henry Hill
Why is it so important that Superman doesn't kill? He's going up against planet-destroying soulless monsters, just snap the fucker's neck!
Noah Stewart
>using literally ever >using meme acronyms and expecting cultured non memers to understand Swine.
Liam Phillips
This, it actually makes sense for Batman and it's why him killing in BvS tells a lot about his character.
Nathan Campbell
You need to be above the age of 18 to post here.
Hudson Price
not an argument
Noah Wright
>actually underage
reported
Daniel Smith
>announcing reports reported
Sebastian Foster
>lmao why does he care so much about murdering? >i kno right? it's just some worthless humans Argument not needed. Common sense is like axiomatic knowledge, you'll get it eventually, once you reach eighteen.
Jace Nelson
>cultured >doesn't know common acronyms in western culture
Get out.
Jackson Cook
this
Jaxon Adams
>superbeing is killing millions of people at once >"i can't kill him, that'd make me just as bad as him!"
Nathaniel Cruz
Did he really kill the terrorist? I mean, of course no one could have survived that, but Snyder is a dumbass and exaggerates everything. So maybe in his mind that just hurt the guy.
Austin Brooks
>meme in a chineese video streaming chatroom webpage >westen culture
Kayden Reyes
He went full speed at him, taking him through 3 walls, his insides are sandnigger stew.
Samuel Wilson
You are misusing the word.
Gavin Cruz
>TFA and ANH are memes because I didn't know what they ment
They are used by most people who discuss the movies on any forum because actually typing the titles out would be ridiculous.
Not knowing the acronym of one of the biggest movies of last year just shows you have no business discussing movies.
Ayden Sullivan
>>"i can't kill him, that'd make me just as bad as him!" I would accuse you of employing a straw man argument but I realize that you're being honest right now. This is genuinely the only opposition you believe someone might have when faced with the prospect of having to kill someone. Your understanding of morality is so shallow that when you try to imagine why superman or anyone else for that matter would have issues with killing a person you're only able to come up with such easily dismissible reasons.
Sebastian Perez
Learn your words before attempting social media.
Jaxon Cooper
>using "literally" as a hyperbole is now "misusing"
Get creative normie.
Easton Wright
Try as you might you won't be able to dismiss my criticism. That picture was bullshit and your puny attacks on my character won't change that. If anything not discussing such terrible movies would be a sign of good taste.
Alexander Anderson
why was lois lane in the movie at all? why did batman just throw aside the super rare kryptonite spear? why did lois lane awkardly throw it in the water? why didn't wonder woman stab doomsday since she's not affected by kryptonite? why was the dialogue so on the nose about superman=god and constant pseudo-philosophical monologues about the human condition? was wonder woman really necessary? how come batman and superman became friends so quickly after just attempting to murder each other? why was lex luthor such a faggot? were the comical dream sequences necessary? why did it feel more like a set up for a sequel than a standalone movie? why do some people like this shitshow of a movie?
Isaiah Clark
BvS was unironically too intelligent for plebs. it's pretty amazing that a capefilm was too intelligent for most people yet here we are.
Joshua Taylor
you typed so much but said so little in that post
Luis Williams
the irony of this post lmao
Ethan Cooper
Serious discussion? That was already done months ago. Only thing left to do is rejoice at capekino. Will dump some content.
>not knowing what exaggeration for comedic effect is
Saying something is literally the same when it's clearly not doesn't mean the person who claims it's literally the same actually means it's literally the same.
The fact that I have to explain this is probably an indication that you're American. Your education system has failed you.
Justin James
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Jayden Collins
How the fuck are you going to tell a monster like Doomsday to take some time out on the naughty step and think about what they did?
Whether or not superman should or shouldn't kill is completely irrelevant to the fact that him having concerns about killing is a normal thing. Only a child completely removed from the reality of what it means to seriously hurt someone would think that it's a no brainer. If you thought I'm arguing that superman should do this or that you've misunderstood me.
William Perry
people can't stop talking about BvS because it was 1) the best capefilm ever made and 2) too intelligent for retards.
so you have idiots mindlessly bashing it and patricians recognizing its genius
Elijah Watson
jesus christ are you actually autistic?
Caleb Stewart
Great, the thread devolved into retarded capekino posts that don't have anything to do that was presented in the OP
David Collins
Having reservations to the extent he does about stopping obviously evil creatures actively engaged in the massacre of innocents indicates a disturbing detachment from humanity.
>the picture is bullshit because it refutes my claim that there has been put no thought into this movie I don't like
Yea, no. I'm pretty sure the similarities are intentional considering Snyder has done similar things before. youtu.be/7p5-14rjWUM?t=28m46s
Not to mention the whole intro sequence of Bruce during the destruction of Metropolis.
Nathan Bell
You seem to be bent on replying to me expressing your disagreement but you're either too lazy or too stupid to actually put it to words. I was half joking when I called you underage before but it looks like I was right.
Levi Russell
holy shit you are, i was joking you fucking sperg.
Xavier Wood
Is it, dare I say...Sup Forumskino?
Henry Sanders
I don't care about whether this movie has had thought put into it as much as I take pleasure at exposing memers like you who desperately try to find interpretations of the movie that make it look deeper than it is because they like it and feel a need to justify their liking it. I haven't even seen man of steel outside of this picture, I'm just calling bullshit where I see it. The part where someone gets pierced by a spike I could see being intentional, but the way the shots were filmed isn't really frame for frame pottery.
Jaxon Hall
I love how actual discussion of this movie begins only after a good torrent comes out. Literally everything before it was making fun of its RT score and the flash scene.
Owen Powell
>Snyder: But Batman shoots people in TDKR!!!! This is how little he understands the characters. He references the few comics that casuals know and appropriates the visuals without caring about the characters.
Lucas Edwards
No one has answers to any of those questions because Snyder's a hack.
Charles Hill
>i don't understand batman: the post
Brody Stewart
> The part where someone gets pierced by a spike I could see being intentional, but the way the shots were filmed isn't really frame for frame pottery.
The backpedaling is delicious. You "critics" are all the same. You haven't exposed anything really. Someone noticed a similarity between MoS and BvS and you claim you exposed some memers.
Kill yourself now.
Leo Thompson
No one answered the questions because it was b8
Jaxson Roberts
>I'll just call it b8 so i don't have to respond to genuine questions
Dylan Perry
Cool.
Lincoln Gray
>So buttblasted all I can do is strawman people
Zachary Kelly
>Batman/Superman is hard to understand.
This is such a dumb critique.
Reinventions, different takes on characters we know. Do you understand this concept?
Yes, you didn't get what you wanted, get over it.
Sebastian Jackson
What kind of mental gymnastics am I witnessing here? Not only have you branded me as "a critic" and attached all sorts of assumptions and implications, which I would've forgiven had you admitted that those frames aren't similar, you now changed my argument and simultaneously said I'm backpedaling??? user I hate to correct you but it's only backpedaling if I change my argument, if you change it for me it's called a strawman.
It looks like I won't get you to admit that the similarity between MoS and BvS are very weak. That much was to be expected, given how you're grasping hard for anything you could find. Weak similarities, strong similarities, it's all the same to you.
Jose Smith
go home Sup Forums
Camden Reyes
These are literally troll threads, you morons. No one is actually stupid enough to believe BvS is good. Just stop falling for the bait, idiots.
Noah Ward
>He also killed the terrorist holding a gun to Lois' hea proof anything. snyder confirmation or a deleted scene showing him dead will do
Alexander Murphy
(You)
Evan Collins
>So buttblasted all I can do is strawman people
Jackson Russell
We infer it because he flew through the air and broke a concrete wall.
Hunter Cook
>for all we know he still has no problem with killing confirmed for not seeing Man of steel Superman was in pieces over it
