Should I start listening to jazz or classical music first? Is there a starter pack for them?
Should I start listening to jazz or classical music first? Is there a starter pack for them?
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listen to what you like
here's a starter pack for ya
James Ferraro and Grimes
neither
Listen to both.
what about the starter pack?
Not OP, but why is classical so difficult to get into? They have MEGA links on the /classical/ threads, but when I asked which one to start with, nobody gave a direct answer. The only person who gave any answer recommended a specific composer. That's nice, but without any specific compositions or group of compositions to begin with, it's easy to get lost. I feel like I should have at least some idea of where I'm going before I listen to it.
listen to jazz first, it's a more satisfying earlier on and not as hard to into.
Starter pack Miles Davis - Kind of Blue & the Birth of Cool, John Coltrane - My Favorite Things & A Love Supreme, Mingus - Mingus Ah Um & the Black Saint and the Sinner Lady.
After that try out Sonny Rollins, Jackie McLean, and Bill Evans, Cecil Taylor, Art Blakey, and any other second tier legend
For the most part you can just go with some of the more famous compositions of the most famous composers. Really no one can tell you what to "start" with unless they know what you like.
I think people are more intimidated with classical than other music and it isn't really warranted. It's music all the same.
thanks user
name an essencial classical album with a good performance
I'm a jazz nut but I'd disagree and say to listen to classical first. At least a sampling of the most important composers. So much of jazz is built on ideas that were first explored in classical music.
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I've been intoing classical for the last two years. I started with a sampler of people like Strauss, Mahler, Schoenberg, Verdi, Debussy, Ravel, Fauré, Berlioz, Chopin and a few others. That was great for a first taste but I still didn't feel like I'd fully intoed.
Then I listened to a huge set of Beethoven's stuff, then a huge set of Bach's stuff. In a couple months I'll do a huge set of Beethoven and Haydn, maybe Wagner. And then I'll do another massive sampler (pic related) and I'll be into.
That's why I say just into jazz, it'll take max one month to hear most of the best stuff
The guys in /classical/ threads are mostly tryhard douches or pretentious music students who often shitpost about modern composers. Reddit is way better for classical sources and reccomendations.
Classical first; you'll appreciate jazz more because it utilizes Western European classical stuff you'll then be able to hear and identify but uses modes differently and merges it with West African influence. Duke is excellent to start out
just because they're both instrumental doesn't mean they're the same. Jazz is rhythmic and made by black people (african influence, ragtime, american folk). classical is melodic and made by white people (european influence, eurofolk, romans n greeks n shit).
jazz and classical are nothing alike
beethoven's 5th, moonlight sonata, toccata and fugue, the four seasons, mysterium prelude, music for 18 musicians
there's some pieces from a variety of different places off the top of my head
like 30 seconds on the sticky and I found it, read the damn sticky
>classical is... made by white people
Whitewasher
Starting chronologically is a very invigorating experience. Start with Bach/Buxtehude/Vivaldi, then Mozart, then Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, and so on. You get to see how music evolved over time, there is a huge aesthetic difference between baroque and jazz, but once you know what is in between, you feel as if you understand that difference a lot better.
>Start with Bach/Buxtehude/Vivaldi
>not starting with the monks
>Reddit is way better for classical sources and reccomendations
Seconding this. They have a chronological timeline and composer index for each time period.
shit chart desu
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He meant classical music. Not Gregorian throatsinging.
You lost all your credibility when I saw 2003 - Pirates of the Cari...earl [VO]
>jazz and classical are nothing alike
I know, I never said they were alike
"Gregorian throatsinging" is essential to the development of European art music.
lmao, I heard a performance of some of it live and it changed my mind on the more modern/score stuff
>European art music
More like fart music amirite? Music sucks anyway.
>Music sucks anyway.
+1
Gregorian Chanting is trippy. Get Holy you heathen.
Well, just listen to anything. For example the Mozart Requiem, it's a classic and easy to get into, since it is emotionally moving and doesn't seem "weird" to untrained ears.
Download it from here. This performance is conducted by Bruno Weil and really good:
mega.nz
>Gregorian throatsinging
why?