I don't really care to be honest. He seems honest, unlike a few other overly theatrical performers. I find autistic prancing and bobbing endearing, but clowning around like a trained monkey annoying.
Lincoln James
>no Palestrina >no one born before 1560 Shit list
Ian Reed
Historically, Bog was mangled by appalling interpretations to an ever greater degree than Chopin. So much so that even his formalism was almost imperceptible from the music itself. The 20th century phenomenon of Bog as music you listen to as opposed to an abstract philosophy you jerk off to like a /r/atheist is entirely due to one person - Glenn Gould. You'd be stuck with Barenboimiam trainwrecks otherwise.
Gould's approach to playing Bog is wholly applicable to Chopin's music too (that one sonata he recorded just to take the piss is irrelevant). I don't know where the fuck you get the idea that Bog and boggy music is "absolute" while Chopin's is somehow "not", when it's not even 100 years old and ENTIRELY the making of one person who was literally the most idiosyncratic and controversial pianist ever.
Why can't western European composers write a missal to save their lives? Pretty much every Mass setting after the Renaissance is overly-dramatic/theatrical/showy/gaudy. Mass is supposed to be a solemn occasion, not a venue for exhibitionism.
They also get into more contemporary shit, instead of sticking the ye olde tonal system ad nasum. Not a mass, but still excellent modern choir music. Not inspired by god, but instead by sol lewitt: youtube.com/watch?v=2mukrVsKqTs
Easton Walker
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Carson Gonzalez
t. moron who thinks only Germans can be good composers
For the record, it was not my intention to pique boganon's shitposting interests and I disavow his involvement.
These are good. They're very much moored to ye olde chant tradition or eastern music (in Tavener's case). Really makes you think, eh? [spoiler]:^) ____ I had to.[/spoiler]
Owen Nguyen
Watch Amadeus and you shall see why. Mozart put him in the shadows
All Baroque is sad because it's just empty counterpoint. A giant etude that in its own tautology.
Matthew Richardson
>ad nasum It's "ad nauseam" (lit. "to nausea"). "Ad nasum" is (grammatically awkward) latin for "to on the nose".
Julian Cruz
Subjective opinion: his music is somewhat boring, and I can clearly see past his formulaicity most of the time. This does not happen with Haydn, who also was one of the greatest pedagogues in history.
Amadeus is based on a Pushkin tragedy, the relationship between Mozart and Salieri depicted in the movie is completely inaccurate.
Also Salieri was way more famous than Mozart in his lifetime, but Mozart was the preferred choice by his contemporary composers.
Gavin Taylor
Anyone know where I can find some PDF's of the Oxford History of Western Music? I've been told it's the ultimate classical music history books but the whole set will cost me 200 dollars in my country, something I can't afford.
Landon Cook
gen (dot) lib [dot] rus {dot} ec You'll find it there, I just searched.
>Roomful of Teeth Kitsch. Too gimmicky. They go from spoken word to barber shop vocals to gregorian chant style singing to mongolian throat singing (and more) all in the course of a couple of minutes. Nothing ever settles in. They whizz through vocal techniques just because. Good as an exercise, or good if you want a fast and quick reader's digest into various world music singing styles, but meh on its own merits.
Blake Martinez
>gen (dot) lib [dot] rus {dot} ec
Thanks a bunch, mate.
James Diaz
upboated xD
Andrew Foster
man, the people who shittalk liszt and chopin here clearly haven't heard some of their better work
of course if you spend all day listening to chopin's nocturnes and liszt's etudes they're going to seem like shallow garbage
>they sound like every other Liszt and Chopin composition I'll be honest, I've tried so hard to resist the "chopin and liszt are bad composer" but I've failed: I truly can't find any merit in their music. The only time I can appreciate it is when I play it. Reading the scores and listening to it it's a bore.
Hudson Clark
Bach definitely sounds more similar to other bach than chopin does to other chopin
Nolan Walker
actually no, i take that back
but I definitely wouldn't say all chopin sounds too samey and repetitive
Daniel Ward
Literally everything Bog ever made is based on this shit. You can copypaste parts of his first composition into his last one and no one would notice.
Jordan Lee
Are any of Liszt's transcriptions and paraphrases worth having a look at? I've been through Reminiscences de Norma and Reminiscences de Don Juan, but they seemed very shouty and clunky.
Kevin Lee
upboated xD
Liam Thomas
I like Liszt redpill me
Austin Kelly
depending on what Liszt you like, you might not need redpilling
>oh wow here comes the modulation i wonde- >daDAda >DAdaDA >descending scale >daDAda >ascending scale >DAdaDA >descending scale >...claaang >daDAda >DAdaDA >descending scale >daDAda >ascending scale >DAdaDA >descending scale >...claaang
Michael Jones
Fact: Mozart is underrated Fact: Mozart is objectively the greatest composer of all time Fact: If Mozart isn't your favorite composer, his music is literally 2deep4u and you have low musical IQ Fact: Considering the vastness of his catalogue, and the fact that one can only truly appreciate him in depth. There is literally zero (0) reason to listen to any other composer than Mozart.
Xavier Collins
upboated xD
Liam Taylor
wow these are fun facts do u have any more?
Leo Perry
I am a bogposter and I'm starting to think Mozart arguments, regardless of their nature, are deployed to derail a thread whenever Bog or Peathoven are getting smashed in the comments since Mozart's music is so frivolous and easy and talk about and/or make fun of.
Eli Scott
>Bogh >Peathoven
Angel Parker
I am a genuine Mozart poster, and I don't personally hold neither Bach or Beethoven in particularly high regard. Bach being too academic (wherein his value is found) and Beethoven being too vulgar.
Also;
[FURTHER PROOF INTENSIFIES]
Cameron Rivera
Petzold
Landon Flores
He was twink faggot m8
>pic unrelated, a composer who made music that didn't sound like bourgeois sodomizing
Colton Bell
is Rachmaninoff w&b?
Sebastian Martin
>Beethoven being too vulgar.
He wasn't vulgar enough.
Adam Anderson
I hate this board so much...
Julian Bell
Maybe his fugues (with some notable exceptions), but that's a problem of the form itself. When you look at his repertoire you find extreme variety and an unmatched ability of adaptation to each genre he touched.
>but I definitely wouldn't say all chopin sounds too samey and repetitive I would. There are certain harmonic and melodic progressions and certain ornamentations that he uses costantly. Sometimes he deviates from his norm, but usually in a almost formulaic way, in the sense that those deviations will themselves be used tenths of times in pther compositions.
He had a very limited musical language. It is understandable, since he spent most of his time bedridded and the time that remained was to be divided in composition, studying and piano practice (he was a pianist first, composer second), still this does not change my response to his music, which is usually boredom if not frustration.
Carson Scott
I'm like bitch who is your man's? ay can't keep my dick in my pants ay
Ian Wright
>beethoven is too vulgar
Why?
Gabriel Powell
Anyone who says Bach sounds same-y hasn't listened to a lot of Bach.
Justin Adams
How does key signatures relate to me practically?
I pretty much memorized all the major keys but how do I utilize that knowledge?
James Gomez
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Jayden Diaz
>how do they help They help your sightreading, also they make organizing notes on the score ifinitely easier. That's it.
Logan Perez
>2 buttons meme >beethoven's squalid aesthetic should be celebrated as a life-affirming cry of the blablabla >period instruments were much quieter friendo >:^)
>2 buttons meme What? >beethoven's squalid aesthetic should be celebrated as a life-affirming cry of the blablabla well, it was life-affirming, what arguments have you got to think the contrary? That said the bombastic, heroic aesthetic is something that he reserved for very few major compositions, almost never in his piano sonatas and string quartets. Also fuck off for having used the adjective "squalid"
>period instruments were much quieter friendo This strawman is wrong. The period instruments were quieter, but Beethoven wanted them to be louder anyway. >inb4 fireman composer Fuck off, the whole art pompier trope was meant to identify people in the romantic era who used loudness to hide a lack of sophistication in their composition. It has nothing to do with Beethoven's music, and loudness is not a flaw per se.
Tl;dr: why the fuck do I keep responding to baits
Blake Watson
ALSO:
Ryan Flores
Can you samefag less please?
Tyler Rodriguez
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Joseph Russell
Hello!
Newfriend here, what is this meme?
Haha thanks!
Mason Hall
Petzold
John Morales
>no 13
muh nigga
Michael Wood
over the past couple months I got really good at interval recognition, what should I do now to further my ear training?
Ayden Reyes
You don't want to know. It's funnier if you don't know. I'm starting to feel sorry for the bogposter.