First season: GOAT

First season: GOAT
Second season: DOG SHIT

You have to be a fucking retarded to think this is one of the best shows of all time when about 18 episodes are unwatchable

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>Not skipping the filler

Look season 2 is far from season 1 quality but it didn't ruin it for me. A few really good episodes, some good ones, and a lot of shit... But dat finale... Just fantastic. Much better upon second viewing knowing what to skip. I know it's not an excuse but if it really made the whole experience not worth it, that's pretty sad.

This show literally turned into a comedy in season 2

So fucking weird

>if it really made the whole experience not worth it, that's pretty sad.
it didnt, the finale and episode 7 are the only ones i thought were great. but i just dont understand how people can say it's one of the best shows of all time while simultaneously admitting that over half of season 2 is inexcusably bad.
>nadine's entire subplot
what a waste of time

The show literally broke the boundaries of television to be considered an art form on par with film

Shows like The Sopranos, The Wire, Mad Men, etc could not exist without the ideas introduced by Twin Peaks. Nobody said it aged well, but the concepts it innovated remain timeless and their influence is still prominent in television today.

The show is older than you are, of course you'll never understand it.

>The show is older than you are, of course you'll never understand it.
this is the most fedora cop out response any one can pull. i love shows that are older/more innovative than twin peaks (which have aged worse than TP too)

>but the concepts it innovated remain timeless and their influence is still prominent in television today.
i'm not disputing this fact. i'm just saying that over half the subplots in the second season were unbelievably bad.

>The Wire, Mad Men, etc could not exist without the ideas introduced by Twin Peaks
So Twin Peaks is to blame for that leftist reddit shit? Sopranos is great but two terrible shows undo one worthwhile one.

Just watch Inland Empire or Mulholland Drive if you want David Lynch, don't need to bother with Lynch memed down for normies aka twin peaks.

By that I mean of course you would never be able to understand it within the context of the time period. Unless you were living through those times, you will never experience it as it was back then, which was the most mindblowing/interesting thing people had seen on television up until that point. We are spoiled by having seen better shows sooner, whereas others had to wait for television to evolve over several decades.

It's like how The Simpsons is one of the best shows of all time. This isn't like a movie where if 30 minutes of it is shit, it severely affects the entire movie. It's more fair to judge a show by each season or arc, especially since a lot of shows change directors throughout their run.

>you will never experience it the same way people experienced it when it came out
again another cop out response, no shit faggot. you're completely ignoring the fact that over half of the second season is shit (not because it aged badly, but because it's shit)

Forgot to mention that I use the Simpsons as an example of something that has a lot of great episodes but is also mostly shit for a lot of its later run. I would still consider it a great series for how innovative and consistent it was for the time it was good

when over half of your show is bad, you cant be considered one of the greatest shows of all time simply because you were influential
yeah but there are more than 10 good simpson episodes

Most of the second season is filler, due to studio tampering. Another reason Twin Peaks is so great, for lots of people like you its babby's first experience with a good show being absolutely devoured by network executives who wanted twice as many episodes, scrambled time slots (something else a kid like you wouldn't know about), and forcing Lynch and Frost to prematurely reveal the killer.

Its okay champ, you'll get the hang of this one day

>hasn't aged a day
how does he do it bros?

Well that depends. There are many who consider Star Wars to be among the greatest series of films of all time. And yet there are three really shitty movies in that series that must unfortunately be included. Does that take away the legacy of the original trilogy? Maybe, but I wouldn't agree.

>There are many who consider Star Wars to be among the greatest series of films of all time.
Yeah, absolute fucking retards who zero sophistication about cinema that should never be taken seriously ever.

i was aware of all of that. you are literally proving my point by agreeing with me
makeup and hair dye
yes but star wars fan base consists of fat redditor manchildren so their opinions arent of any worth

And you still can't question their importance in the grand scheme of things. At this point you're just admitting you don't understand what makes something good. Innovation is what makes something great, not your le ebin plot twists. Breaking Bad is probable more suited for you

once again dad, influence =/= good

>you're proving my point

the ultimate statement of defeat. ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the enlightened pleb

yeah bro i just dont get subplots that involve captain hook lookin ass 30 year olds that get amnesia and become superhuman and think they're 18 again

too patrician for my taste

>influence =/= good

You can repeat your objectively wrong statement all you like, it doesn't make you any less wrong. You're just going to have to admit to yourself that you have shit taste. This thread is officially over.

Breaking Bad and Star Wars are both capeshit pornography and literally every person who has ever enjoyed even a single second of content from either franchise would be better off dead.

Twin Peaks is the most watered down pleb tier thing one of the greatest American artists of all time ever put out. It's 1 part art to 5 parts capeshit.

David Lynch is in my all time top 3 directions and even I'd advocate for the execution of all people who think that Twin Peaks is good 2bh, Just to purify his following.

how is that statement wrong?

Forget your troubles and just get happy
You better chase all your cares away
Sing Hallelujah, come on, get happy
Get ready for the Judgment Day!

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>yes but star wars fan base consists of fat redditor manchildren so their opinions arent of any worth

Actually, per the opinions of many respected critics, the movies are good to great. With the third being questionable, but I like it enough. Either way, you can't deny its huge influence on not only culture, but the film industry as a whole.

You sound like a fucking retard though so I'm gunna go ahead and give up on this conversation and go to sleep. Next time you want to bring this up try the Twin Peaks thread currently up with 100+ replies on the front page instead of starting a shitty thread.

Twin Peaks became reddit the moment it got added to Netflix and 90s/00s plebs got access to it.

>twin peaks is capeshit
are you capable of forming an opinion without memes?

>Actually, per the opinions of many respected critics
stopped reading right there

>Actually, per the opinions of many respected critics
Reminder that since the dawn of time all "critics" who receive respect from the majority are actually just the reddit meme shill brigade in various forms.

>entertainment sensibility
Yes it's capeshit. If you are blind to the memes then you are living a meme.

This is why your thread has been ended, you're a terrible troll/pleb. You need to be more subtle/smarter.

>BLIBIO BAME MEME IMAGE
Back to your homeboard you go, capeshit enabler. Keep wearing your twin peaks fandom fashion accessory.
>I love Lynch LE MEMEMME,EMEMMEMW WEQODPPO
>Oh, Inland Empire, what's that?

Disgusting children.

You're the one who can't make an actual critique of anything without using the words "meme", "capeshit", or "GOAT", because you're 17 years old and this is your first experience watching anything good, so you're conflicted because it contradicts everything you've thought was good your whole life, so now you're trying to convince yourself it isn't good, even though you're subconsciously blocking the actualization that you simply have shit taste. Accept it and move on, there is no reason for you to wallow in your denial.

reminder that these are the only good david lynch works:

>eraserhead
>mulholland dr
>inland empire
>twin peaks s1

these are all shit

>blue velvet
>twin peaks s2
>lost highway
>dune
>elephant man
>twin peaks: fire walk with memes

ah, he thinks he's special because he's seen more than one lynch project, all of which are extremely popular. got it.

it's a shame someone with such extensive experience can only see films in an art vs. capeshit dichotomy

Twin Peaks is mediocre at best. If you want to see something good when watch Fire Walk With Me. That is GOAT tier patrician kino. The show is reddit enabling capeshit dreck. The film is an audience alienating pleb crusher.

I'm 37.

>I won't accept fans' opinions
>I want accept critics' opinions

So what case can be made?

>reminder that these are the only good david lynch works:
>>eraserhead
>>Lost Highway
>>inland empire
>>twin peaks Fire Walk With Me

The rest is shit.

Of course Fire Walk With Me is great, as is all of Twin Peaks.

You're 17.

ITT: plebeians arguing with other plebeians over which lynch movie is the least plebeian

lynch is reddit personified

Art battles are fought with uncompromising brutality. The entire "enjoyment" ethos that spawns fandom and critical respect is inherently anti-artistic. You just cut off your ideological enemy's limb without any hesitation, words spent or eye contact.


I will kill all those who champion art I deem destructive and that is the only respectable way to engage with the media landscape.

Enjoyment is reddit.

Yeah s2 was worth it just for every Leland scene.

>television is a movie

top fucking kek

Twin Peaks is pathetic shit for those infantile about art. Lynch's dabbling in PLEB-O-VISION should be disposed of without a second thought. The only value the show has is that it led to the greatest horror film of the 1990s. Now go home you gurning video game autistic. The art-adults are here.

>still cant critique without memes

stay mad kid, stay real mad.

If you stop replying before I do then that means you admit that you have autism and enable the circulation of pro-enjoyment capeshit video game media.

So why is there so much hate for Fire Walk With Me? I just watched it and didn't think it was bad. It just seemed like it was too fast.

Being stuck in the Black Lodge.

>So why is there so much hate for Fire Walk With Me?
Same reason people support capeshit and think that Paul Thomas Anderson is a good director. Fire Walk With Me is Lynch's masterpiece.

He's clearly aged a lot of days.

>projecting this hard

If you stop replying before I do then that means you admit that you have autism and enable the circulation of pro-enjoyment capeshit video game media.

>you will never be so mad you go into full spam mode


enjoy your obviously needed "victory", autismo

If you stop replying before I do then that means you admit that you have autism and enable the circulation of pro-enjoyment capeshit video game media.

Kill your parents. Kill your parents. Kill your parents. Then, KILL YOURSELF.

stay mad kid