Ok, serious question here Sup Forumsrothers. I am a white male in my late 30's. I have only ever dated and fucked women...

Ok, serious question here Sup Forumsrothers. I am a white male in my late 30's. I have only ever dated and fucked women. I love femininity, I fucking love pussy, I like to fuck it and lick it, boobs are probably the greatest thing on earth to me, and I am fully turned on by the female form. Now... seems normal right? Sure. Here's where it gets weird. I often find myself fantasizing about cocks. Not men, not being attracted to men, not fucking men, not being fucked by men, just COCKS. They turn me on and I generally fantasize about sucking them. I know I am NOT gay because I am turned off by men in general. Masculinity does NOTHING for me what so ever. I could never date a guy or fuck a guy in the ass, nor be fucked in the ass. I just think about sucking cock. I really want to do it, but I know I never will.

My question is this... what the fuck is wrong with me? Why do I think about cock when I am not into guys? Is this normal? I know i'm not bi either because i'm not attracted to men, just their dicks. So what gives? I'd genuinely appreciate some real answers. I know i'm gonna get trolls, assholes, and shitty responses, but I really would like to know why I have this secret need to want to suck dick.

You're gay. OP.

You apparently didn't read what I said. If you did, you'd know that I am not gay.

do you like traps?
prefer cut or uncut?
?I bet you like gloryhole

You're gayer than I am

trap here.

youre normal. i've fucked lots of guys who
>say its the first time (idk if they're lying)
>try to suck my dick like its made of chocolate
>afterwards get really shook up scared and ask me if it makes them gay

no it makes you like every other man. congrats ur normal.

Thanks for the only real answer thus far.

Fag

Worship it

OP here. I would, gladly. I'd suck you off right now if you lived near me.

i like guys too.

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How would you suck a dick? You'd have to find a man, whether they have tits on them or not you'd still have to find a man to do it, claiming you're not gay shows you've got some serious denial about who you are accept it and go out there and be the raging fag you were born to be mate

HAVING SAID THAT,

if you want to worship a superior male, you probably got a little touch of the gayness

Pretty simple.

You've been watching too much porn.
Dicks of other men in and out of every hole on the women you are looking at - you fapping.

Chemically rewarding your brain for watching other men's penises giving pleasure to a female and indirectly giving pleasure to you.

You don't want dicks, your brain has just assosciated them with being aroused. Subliminal image in the background.

Stop watching porn, and after a few months you will normalise and lose the fetishes that aren't really part of you.

Ok, so maybe a TOUCH of gayness. But my oral fixation is only on the cock it's self. I am NOT attracted to men. I don't want to fuck men. I don't want to BE fucked by men either. Masculinity is a massive turn off to me. But cocks? The idea of sucking them? That turns me on A LOT. So maybe a touch of gay? But not full on faggot. Because to be truly gay? You ARE attracted to men. You DO want to be fucked by men and fuck men as well. I want NONE of that crap. I just want to suck dick.

If you want to get rid of this without being a gay
Affirm yourself as soft-bisexual
A bisexual trio: 2 guys and 1 woman
But from time to time you suck a little for your pleasure

You could be on to something here. Pretty much all porn has dicks fucking women in it, so maybe you're right. That, and I do look at A LOT of porn. I have for a huge portion of my life now.

Welcome into bisexuality, we're pleased to mett you :D

So just a little bi then? "Soft bi" ? I have been looking for a label or title for what it is that I am for years now. Like I have said, i'm not attracted to men in the least bit, this is how I know for a fact i'm not gay, but I am turned on my cocks, so that's not 100% straight either. I figured I wasn't bi because bi people are attracted to BOTH sexes, and i'm only attracted to women. I love everything about the female body. Male bodies do NOTHING for me. Just the cocks. That is what I think about when it comes to guys.

Doesn't take long to clear your brain.
It's the reason for the rise in trap fetishism. Girl + dick.

First week or two are the hardest. Start by deleting all the porn that you don't like, then the mediocre stuff, then finally just wipe the rest too.
Do you want to be controlled by something that makes you go against your own personality, or do you want to delete it, stop watching it and go back to normal.

After a few months without it, you won't think about dicks or porn really.
Avoid it thereafter.
If you want to fap after that, look at clothed women and fantasies.
Even better, just imagine girls you've actually met - penetrating them directly.

Stay busy and around other people, it helps.

There's a website about it, search for "yourbrainonporn".

does this sound hot to you? locking your little cock in a cage and giving the key to a stronger older man, who teases you and says things like "i bet you really want to masturbate, haven't been able to touch your little penis in days, have you? .... suck daddy's cock and i'll let you out"

does this sound hot to you?
"microwaving cheese in a cup for 10 minutes then pouring it on a pizza and giving it to your friend to eat immediately, in summer"

see, i actually am a trans girl and i'm always a little "wtf" by this.

like, i've had boyfriends and girlfriends who genuinely loved me.

I'm pretty sure they didn't fall in love with me as a side effect of their porn addiction.

like, its not deviant to fall in love with us. we're awesome

You are bi my friend.

Partially, yes. The idea of being rewarded for sucking his cock makes it that much more enjoyable. Doesn't help that the whole cage thing has also been a fantasy of mine. This is the oddest thing of all about my fascination with sucking cock in general. I want to be dominated, like LOSE my masculinity in a way. I get tired of always being the masculine one, ya know? To have it taken away (put in a cage) and then be made to please another man before being rewarded my own orgasm? To me that would be wonderful. It combines two of my fantasies into one.

Are you make or female?

Also, read op's posts. He isn't atttracted to men, and he has watched porn for years.

Humans aren't designed for this.

There were always deviants, but you of all 'people' should accept that each person should follow their true desires and not implanted ones.

What if I told you to fuck chickens every day for a year. You started thinking about chickens.

Also, post tits.

Had any serious self esteem knocking events in the last few years?

Trans girls are probably what I would most be comfortable with. The whole feminine body, feminine features, very feminine in general, but with a cock. That would probably be the smoothest transition for me. Always been very curious about trans girls. But again, that stems from the fact that I love women. The female body is beautiful in my eyes... but I fantasize about cock, so combining the two, makes a lot of sense to me.

Eh.. about 8 years ago my ex ripped my fucking heart out of my asshole. Does that count? That shook me to my core.

Wow u r gay.

Try no porn for a few months.
Fap only to your imagination about girls you've met.

After that, if you still find dicks spontaneously popping into your mind - you can become a faggot.

Otherwise, you might be relieved to return to sanity.

Might be something to do with it.

Did the dick thoughts start anywhere near then?

Did you ever confront her about it, or find complete closure to it?

Build your confidence up again and don't take the easy route.
Your pain left you weak and instead of fighting maybe you are sliding towards giving up.
Fight it and don't let a cunt ruin your personality.
Rediscover your old self and conquer the world.

The no porn thing will be very difficult for me. I have pretty much looked at porn since I was in the 5th grade. I'm 38 years old now. To quit cold turkey would be extremely difficult.

>Did the dick thoughts start anywhere near then?
Honestly, shortly thereafter, yes. I didn't really think about dicks when we were dating. It was maybe a good year or so after we split it just started popping into my head.

>Did you ever confront her about it, or find complete closure to it?
Confront her about leaving me for another guy? Yeah, of course. I tried to get her back and she told me she didn't love me anymore. It fucked me up. I dated her for almost 6 years. But what can ya do? Women like to dick hop. So I had to let her go.

I fully admit I have changed for the worse since she left me. I also admit my confidence is shot. I HAVE kinda given up on life in general. My life hasn't been that great since we split. I don't miss her anymore, but for a long time I did. I will say I have developed a massive distrust in women in general as a result of her leaving me the way she did. I do miss the old me, someday maybe I can get a piece of who I used to be back.

Again, no, I'm not. If you took the time out to read everything I said, you would know that I am not gay. Gay people are attracted to men and get off on the idea of fucking men in the ass and being fucked in the ass by men. I do not. Not even a little. Men turn me off. I just so happen to get off on the idea of sucking dick. Bi? Maybe. Gay? Nope.

I'm 36 and I know how you feel. My girl left me suddenly a couple of years ago. Never even bothered to break up with me, just went off.

Shattered my self esteem in that area of my life and I don't trust women either. I stopped caring for the most part.
Had lots of females throwing themselves at me, ignored almost all of them. Still love the girl.

Keep fighting man, we'll figure it out.

What helps me, is to do things like I used to before her.
Sports, adventure, challenging myself, doing risky and fun constructive things.

Always be positive, look out for yourself and at some point when you think a girl is worth it, risk your heart again. I think that is the real cure.
Make yourself care and open up.
You risk more pain, but you stand to gain yourself and love.

I was on porn for a long time and I managed to stop. It wasn't immediate. I realised it was bad for my mental state, even had erectile disfunction.
Deleted my porn in several waves over a period of weeks. Leaving the best til last.
Then just stayed busy and used aversion to stop the habit.
When you feel the urge, exercise or go for a walk or do something useful instead.
It is hard at first, but doesn't take as long as you would think to stop wanting it.
No fap and no porn for 2-3 weeks, then fap a couple times a week to your imagination.
It will be easy to manage as you'll have urges built up.
Do it in the shower or something, away from the idea of your computer.

Going travelling helped me too - no chance to look at porn at all, only time to fap in shower, and nice girls to meet.

Read the "yourbrainonporn" website. It will help rationalise it logically.

Try stopping, and don't worry if you slip after a few days at first. Just start the no fap/no porn again.
Each time it will be easier to go longer, until you make a few weeks.
Then past 2-3 weeks it will become easy.
The months will pass and you will find your brain is calmer and your sexual urges more natural, with no feelings of guilt or confusion.

I definitely know how you feel about your girl leaving you suddenly. I was with my ex for almost 6 years and out of fucking no where she just tells me "I don't love you anymore. I found someone else". Like a fucking light switch man. Just went ICE COLD in a split second. No feelings, no emotion, no nothing. It came out of left field, hit me like a ton of bricks. I actually cried like a bitch. First time in my life I ever cried over a woman. I was disgusted with myself after I finally got over her. It made me mad knowing she saw me at my weakest. The problem was.. I actually truly loved her. I didn't want her out of my life. But... shit happens. Women as a whole are never satisfied no matter how good looking you are, no matter how big your dick is, or how big your wallet is... they always want more. Women desire new experiences. Once they tire of you? They cast you out like a used tampon. That's just the way it goes.

Anyway, I don't really know if any woman is worth it anymore. They always have a hidden agenda, and it seems to me, at least in my personal experience... the more you care and the more you love them? The quicker they move on from you. It's like they WANT the power and once they know they have it over you? THAT'S when they leave. It's fucked up if you ask me.

All this could be part of why I have this cock fantasy thing. Could be subconscious that I am just tired of women's shit. I really don't know, i'm not doctor or therapist. As for the porn? I'm sure it is bad for me. I have no doubt at all. maybe I can give it up one day.

New activities and challenges will help.
To realise your potential, and to understand what you are capable of.

Work towards something, set a big goal and accomplish it.
You will be yourself again, and you will be better and stronger than before.

Climb a mountain, run a race, visit ten countries in ten months, learn a foreign language.
Push yourself.

Congrats, you are gay

Oh look, another dumbfuck that doesn't know how to read.

She sounds a bit like mine, borderline personality or something. Were there any signs of personality changes before then?

As for other women, now you know what to avoid.
Find a decent girl and open up to her without fear.

If she is good, marry her after a year or two and have some kids. Put the crap behind you.
Take a chance, life is all about risk.
Men in particular are built on risk taking.

Work your way up to it, take up a difficult and demanding sport or activity.
Mountain climbing or diving. Build some things.
Become skillful at something new.

The cock fantasy or being submissive or being a cuckold or a trap are generally from low self esteem, or feeling powerless. Wanting to take the easy route.

Discard it, be your own man again.

As for porn. I was spending hours every day harvesting porn that I often didn't even use or look at after. From about 13 until 29 or something.
We started at young ages and didnt know any better.
Really though, stopping is not so hard.
First week yes, second week a bit, third week was easy. Then time passes and you don't even think about it anymore.

Stay busy and around other people and the first couple of weeks will go faster.

Thanks for the good advice. This is probably one of the better responses i've ever had here on Sup Forums. Thanks for being cool man. Also, when you said:

"The cock fantasy or being submissive or being a cuckold or a trap are generally from low self esteem, or feeling powerless. Wanting to take the easy route."

That really turned on a light switch in my head that actually made a lot of fucking sense to me. I do have MASSIVE low self esteem, I have ever since my ex left me. I NEVER used to be this way. So maybe it's not that I am into cocks after all. Could just seriously stem from what happened to me with my ex. Out of all responses on this thread, this one makes the most sense to me. Thanks again, user. I appreciate it.

Dicks aren't just growing on trees retard. They're attached to male humans.

Unless you want to suck a dick shaped lollipop, sucking a real dick is gay. You faggot

Continuing from that post:

I also forgot to add... When I think about cocks in general, I always think about being submissive to another guy, pleasing him while denying myself pleasure. Servicing his needs, making me feel less than a man.

That alone tells me that what you said was right. Due to my low self esteem, my ex leaving me the way she did for another guy, I feel "less than"... thus the fantasy manifested it's self. Fuck... This is actually a real eye opener for me.

No shit, you stupid fuck. I'm not a total moron, I realize this. However.... to be the very definition of gay, you have to be attracted to the same sex. I AM NOT!!! Men do NOTHING for me you non-comprehensive mother fucker. So rather than tossing out insults, how about you go fuck yourself? I already got the answers I was looking for so I really don't need your pointless bullshit.

No problem man.

I think once you are aware of it you can work on it.

Leave the past shit behind and do new things.
The bad stuff in the past doesn't matter anymore.

Build a new future for yourself.

Maybe do something symbolic to start.
Go on a trip, accomplish some thing you have always wanted to do.

You don't deserve the low self esteem dude, it wasn't anything to do with you why she fucked off.
She just wasn't a nice person and was greedy and selfish and a cunt.
Just need to do a few things to remind yourself that you are pretty cool, and you are going to do some pretty cool things.

Book a trip, it will help clear your head and you'll see a lot of new stuff, it will give you some ideas?
Maybe a career change or a move or just to start a new activity that makes you feel like you.

Exercise helps me. Weights are good too. Doing swimming or becoming better at things makes,me feel good and more myself.

Good luck man.

>just COCKS. They turn me on and I generally fantasize about sucking them.
> I know I am NOT gay
whatever helps you sleep at night

Cheers man. Seriously, I honestly appreciate your wisdom and your kind words. You've really opened my eyes. I don't just say that, like most assholes on this website. I actually do appreciate it. You mentioned a trip. One of my biggest dreams in life is to own an RV and travel, the only reason I haven't is because I just can't afford it. My credit isn't the best so I can't lease one and I obviously can't afford to buy one outright. That's honestly the only reason I haven't acted on that. I want to get out and see the country. I love nature, I want to be out around it. Lack of finances always holds me back. If I could find away around that? My life would be a hell of a lot better than it is now.

Sounds like it dude.
I had some similar thoughts after I lost this girl. I thought I'd be with her forever, that we'd have kids and grow old.
Then she was gone and I turned the blame to myself in my head.

That's not the right way.

Being submissive to a girl or a guy isn't really who we are. That's the self doubt in us. That's the wanting to give up and surrender in us.

Fuck that shit.
That's the easy route, and the easy route is never good.


Learning, improving, challenging yourself and facing your fears are ways to build your confidence solidly again.

There are some good sites out there with ideas.
Forgot the name of it, but one is something like "how to be a man", with an old fashioned theme.
Has really good info on it.

Your pleasure is important, pleasing a chick is secondary.
Fuck with aggression and passion in your fantasies once the porn is out of the way.
Not anger, just pleasure. Girls like that, when you lose yourself in the moment and become primal.

You'll be fine dude. Keep working hard.
Never let anyone set you off track.

If an RV is too much right now, maybe sell all your shit and go for it. Second hand one.

Or rent one for a few weeks and see a lot.

Or buy a lightweight tent and travel around like that. Pick up some wilderness skills along the way.
It's an excellent and achievable ambition, which can lead to a lot of things.

I'm glad I can help you back onto your path.

You could look for work which will allow you to pay your way as you travel. Friend of mine was with a programme where he did farm work for different farms across the country for some months.
Couple of weeks on each farm. A real adventure.

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Hi all, I have a very similar story to the op here, 34, watched porn most of my life, and I have these phases where I watch it a lot, I sometimes get the thoughts about how hot it would be to suck a shemales cock, haven't acted on it...yet!

I'm in a relationship of 6 years now and things are going great, just all the above has definitely been my secret over the years.

I know exactly how you feel. I wanted the exact same with the girl that left. I wanted to grow old with her. I had ZERO interest in other women. She was pretty much my world. I think that's why when she left me it devastated me so badly.

I too turned the blame on myself because I couldn't figure out what I did wrong. I was always good to her, I never cheated on her, I never beat her, and I always put her needs before my own. ALWAYS did that.

Honestly that is a huge problem for me in all relationships. I ignore myself and worry about the girl i'm with. I've never really given a shit about myself as it is. This goes WAY BACK into my childhood. Of course that could have been stemmed from the abuse I suffered at the hand of my step dad. Shit changes you, so who knows.

But I agree.. to learn, improve, and challenge myself, facing the fears I have will help build me up again. I completely agree with you on that.

I've looked around, new RV's pretty much start around 60K, I have no where near that. Even used ones are expensive. I would need to lease one to ever be able to afford it. (making payments), but due to my credit being shit, I can't lease. That's why I don't act on that dream. Lack of finances has always been my biggest problem in my adult life.

>You could look for work which will allow you to pay your way as you travel.

THAT is also why I don't try to travel or make things happen because I have no idea how to work while being mobile on the road. I'm not terribly skilled in anything. I know people that work online are able to travel and work, but I don't know how to get my foot in the door to that kinda stuff. I'd LOVE to. I'd seriously live out the rest of my days in an RV and just travel. That's what my hear desires most anyway out of life. I love nature and being around it. It calms me. Always has. Anyway, thank you again man. You've inspired me.

Yep u r gay

ahh the age old /b thread.... questioning your sexuallity and having to state your not gay...

PROTIP: if you needed to make a thread about it... YOUR FUCKING GAY

Go to Craiglist - Suck a dick and see how you like it... report back your findings

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Read my posts up top about ditching porn.
It will make you a lot more clear in your mind and you'll appreciate sex with your girlfriend more.

It is just a shitty addiction and you don't need it. In fact, you are better off without it.

Fapping to my imagination about a girl I've just met that day or have been on a date with feels a lot better than the routine porn fap.

Shemale fantasies left my mind after a couple of months with no porn. Then the idea became disgusting and alien after a bit longer.
Same with other wierd fetishes.

I guess a lot of what people saying here are actually talking about defence mechanisms, we all have them and their there to help keep us safe, what it gets to be about is whether or not the defences you used back then are still helping or are actually making you feel worse nowadays,

Get with girl
Love her
Things go all fucked up
You get into porn
Heads a mess
You get addicted to porn
Fetishes develop
Years later you want to suck cock

You can see how these things develop

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Ohhhhh yeees

What is the underlining problem with all that?
>WOMEN.

They fuck us all up in the head.

You are bi-curious. Underage detected Sup Forums

In your next relationship, just put 75% focus on yourself and your life and what you want and what you need to do to be you.
25% on her.
Focus on your hobbies, keep a part of your life separate from her. She should have a part separate from you too.
Then share other things, share a sport - that really helps. Something regular together.

If she is wrong, or asking too much, put your foot down. Make boundaries early on and enforce them.
Don't tolerate so much and hold yourself in respect.

I have done all the same as you said, I gave everything I had to be with her, and that was my mistake.

Don't let your step dad have any more influence on you.
You are your own man now and you can raise yourself.

If you feel it is necessary, try root cognitive therapy.

Other than that, I think you can take care of yourself.

Try the farm labourer thing. You don't need skills but you will learn skills on the way and have new experiences.

Search for info, there are organisations that so it.
Otherwise just search for farm work, and go there.

Also consider being a forest fire prevention worker.
Lots of travel and solid work. Lasts all summer.

Find ways to work around nature,,there are tons.
If you need skills,,take the courses and make it happen.

You can do it man.

First paragraph in this is pretty clear and sensible.

If some thing isn't making your life better, time to take a different route and find things that make your life better.

(Almost) the same here OP.
I like dicks. They're great.
I'm generally straight, but a bit of bisexual too. Sex with men is different. I don't like to fuck them. I like their dicks, and I like what they do with them.
So now and then I meet up with one and get fucked and suck them off.
Although it really doesn't matter. If you want to call it anything you'd be just a bit bisexual in only a sexual way.
Nothing weird about it. And I'd highly recommend to go with the flow and try it. It greatly enhances my sexlife in general.

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A huge part of me WANTS to try it. I just don't know if I have the nerve to ever go through with it.

I tell ya, putting my needs before hers? That'll be a brand new experience for me. I've always put 100% on her, and 0% of me. I've always wanted to please the woman I happened to be dating at the time. I think i've always been too afraid of letting women down in general. It's why I always give in. Anyway, thanks again man. I think the forest fire prevention thing you mentioned would appeal to me the most. I LOVE trees. Huge fan of woods, forests, and such. Any clue how to get my foot in the door for that kind of thing? Wouldn't they expect you to have some kind of forest ranger experience? I have none. Just curious.

The easy way is to get on gay chatsites to get dates. (Works for me in the netherlands, craigslist isnt big here).

It's a bit of an adventure. I always get a bit nervous right before a date. Up untill I get to the house and ring the bell.
Had A LOT of dates. only two of them were meh. The rest was awesome.
You should go through with it if you really want to do it. What's there to life than gaining new experiences and having fun?
Worst you have to lose is a night not well spend.

You don't need experience. Friend of mine was doing it.
You go around several states in a team with a shovel, pick or rake - it pays decently and you spend your days in nature working hard.

Ask around about these things. Go to a national park and ask the people,working there about how you can work there in anything.
Start talking, start looking and just try.
You'll soon find things.

First step is to make your life full, and hold onto it when you meet a girl.
You can make time for her, make her feel emotionally secure, but your stuff will remain your stuff.

Only give the same energy in the relationship as she does. Keep it all balanced.

If she has her activities, and you have yours, and then you share some other activities that you have in common,,you will be happier.

Don't worry about them being let down sometimes, it is natural. As long as you remain true to yourself.
Stick to your guns about things. Know which things are important and which aren't.

If it is her birthday, then sure, rearrange your exercise schedule.

Expect her to do the same for you. It is all about balance.

this
I started fantasizing about sucking dick and I realized that that's what the main character in porn does
You are identifying with the protagonist
Stop the porn, the dick-slobbering fantasy will fade away

OP here. Just wanted to thank those of you that gave constructive criticism and actually took time out of your day to give me some valuable advice. it is appreciated. Think i'll go ahead and let this thread die out for now. Thanks again to those of you that were cool and gave advice. Not just on the fantasy thing, but fixing my life in general. Cheers!