Computer, create one million fully self-aware copies of Adolf Hitler

>computer, create one million fully self-aware copies of Adolf Hitler

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Sad your thread from this morning didn't last?

what for? adolf was just your average, charismatic yet completely replaceable politician.

>computer, create one million fully self-aware copies of Adolf Hitler
>computer, create one million fully self-aware copies of Pol Pot
>computer, create one million fully self-aware copies of Carl Barks

Let them fight it out

Carl Barks kek

>believing this

>Computer create one million US Marines with equipment and training from the turn of the 21st century
>And the Earth's Sun
Finally the answer to the age old question

Really makes you think.

Doggos would probably handle socialism a lot better

>Computer, deactivate safety protocols then create a photon torpedo with a 5 second count down till detonation.

What would happen next?

Belay that order computer, show me 100 naked Diana's crammed into a gas chamber.

>computer, create a filler episode

>computer, create a computer with the same processing power as yours and program it to be able to improve it's performance, sentience, and processing speed, then give it access to a power supply 892 x 10^77 more powerful than yours (you can do this because although you cant use a holographic power source to power things in the real world you can create whatever one you like with whatever specs you like to power things in the holodeck) now have the holographic computer improve its performance using that power source, then after its a a hundred billion times as powerful as you give it access to engineering and have it use the machinery there to build itself in the real world, now have it solve every single problem that exists in the universe in one day along with giving us immortality and the powers of god

What did he mean by this?

You'd need Level 10 command codes for that.

The holodeck power grid is incapable of that.

You'd just be denied.

Cool idea though.

Another victory for the white race, essentially.

Computer, blunts and white bitches.

Does this already exist?

>The holodeck power grid is incapable of that

The holodeck power grid is capable of creating any holographic power source you can imagine, because it is not 'real'.

You could say
>computer create a copy of earth sun, now shrink it down to the size of a marble, now create a thousand copies of that and use it to full a perfectly absorbing dyson sphere the size of a medicine ball, now shrink that down to the size of a marble, now create eight thousand copies of that and use it as a power source, etc.

COMPUTER MAKE LESBIANS

>computer, create one million fully self-aware copies of Donald Trump
>computer, create one million fully self-aware copies of Hillary Clinton
>computer, create a comfy chair and a bucket of buttered popcorn for me

Sit back and enjoy the show.

Yeah, you are inside it.

>create one million fully self-aware copies of Adolf Hitler
>this shows up

Allowing for even the option of safety protocol deactivation was a mistake.

>computer, create a perfect copy of the enterprise with perfect fully aware copies of every crew member including me and have me standing in the holodeck asking you to create a perfect copy of the enterprise with perfect fully aware copies of every crew member including me and have me standing in the holodeck asking you to create a perfect copy of the enterprise with perfect fully aware copies of every crew member including me and have me standing in the holodeck asking you to create a perfect copy of the enterprise with perfect fully aware copies of every crew member including me and have me standing in the holodeck asking you to create a perfect copy of the enterprise with perfect fully aware copies of every crew member including me and have me standing in the holodeck asking you to keep doing this forever

>>computer create a copy of earth sun, now shrink it down to the size of a marble, now create a thousand copies of that and use it to full a perfectly absorbing dyson sphere the size of a medicine ball, now shrink that down to the size of a marble, now create eight thousand copies of that and use it as a power source, etc.

You aren't thinking with a head, much less your own.

The holodeck still has to deal with physics.

Anything that could emulate the sun would have the gravitational pull of your average star and the entire ship would be destroyed.

But it'd have to have the power source to create that in the first place.

Unless your entire post is "lol I aint gotta explain shit, the holodeck is magick nigga ;)"

Which I'm beginning to suspect that it is.

>Inb4 called to the bridge to explain why the computer just exploded

But what about the safety protocols built into the holodeck to prevent such disasters?

>computer, create the universe

Well, I mentioned Level 10 command codes and he conveniently forgot to reply about that as well.

Don't worry, he's in magyck land now.

Yes, the Q race already did it and would prevent anyone else from doing so

Yeah, I was gonna say I remember Picard had to disable the safety systems verbally to kill the Borg with a holographic tommy gun in FC.

Didn't Picard deactivate those protocols to kill some Borg with holographic bullets. Would a holographic explosion with no safety protocols detonating inside the holodeck, cause damage outside of it?

Voyager explicitly states that the Holodeck's power supply is incompatible with the ship's actual main power.

Plus if those suns are actually perfect replications then the heat and gravity from them would completely destroy the holodeck, if not the ship.
And that's assuming the holodeck *can* do that.

Well, if holographic Moriarty could escape the holodeck, I'm sure a holographic explosion could do some damage with no safety systems active.

>computer create a hologram of a a holodeck running this same program inside it

wha woo happe?n

Were they holographic bullets (which are just a visual representation of the force applied through force field projectors along the walls) or was it a replicated, working Tommy Gun?

>Anything that could emulate the sun would have the gravitational pull of your average star and the entire ship would be destroyed.

You are the one who is not thinking sir. What happens on the holodeck is not real. You could create a sun no problem, and any holographic constructs inside the holodeck would be affected by it's gravity, but it's not going to affect anything OUTSIDE of the holodeck with it's gravity because its not real.

Similarly, it doesn't need to have the power to power whatever it creates. If you created a perfect copy of the enterprise warp core in the holodeck because you wanted to run some dangerous experiments it wouldnt require 100% of the real warp core to power it, it wouldnt require any of the warp cores power except the power being used to power the computer that runs the holodeck and that power input would not change, even if you created a dozen warp cores, its just a hologram. And if they all exploded it wouldnt blow up the ship. Because its just a hologram.

>Computer, generate a science lab with all the greatest scientific minds and set them to work on how to improve our current technology
>And set the timescale to 100x times faster than normal time

>computer, create the perfect waifu
>unable to load the specified metadata resource

>MAJEL RODDENBERRY: Unable to comply, ship's holodeck is incapable of recreating the parameters for the known universe.
>BARCLAY: O-oh t-that's okay computer. End life.

Yes. The Voyager episode with the ebin Nazis had part of the holodeck destroyed and everyone escaped to retake the ship.

It'd just devolve into a million man sweaty primal orgy. Once all the Trumps are spent, the Hillarys would sit on their faces and suffocate them.

Death by snu-snu.

>Computer, summon Alexander Hamilton and the Marquis de Lafayette for rap battles.

Yes, you can't use a holographic power supply to power the ship, because the power supply is not real. It's a hologram. If you could do this every single starship in the federation would just have a holodeck in engineering instead of a warp core.

But you can create whatever power source you can imagine IN the holodeck, and have it power whatever you like that you create IN the holodeck. You could just say create a copy of the sun but have it not generate any gravitational field. Etc. You set the rules in there because it isn't real.

The only reason these scenarios never played out is a) the writers were not that smart b) it renders the plot of 99% of all the episodes meaningless.

Feels good being master race

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>Nazis conquer the Voyager

Nazis, not even in the 24th century. Not even once.

>Computer, open Disney folder.
>Program: 'Frozen; alpha zero one'.
>Begin.

>this whole thread

I don't think that the power grid is the problem here, if the computer in star trek work in the same way ours does, the holodeck couldn't create a computer if the same processing power as it has.

Processing Power = PP

Imagine that the holodeck computer works like a VM, than the max PP of anything created in the holodeck is equal to the holodeck's PP - the PP wasted in everything that isn't the the holographic computer, and that could be the ability to input commands in the holodeck(including recording, translating and processing), imaging system(but you could create a computer without visual image).

Would be more efficient if you programmed the computer to create a consciousness(like Moriarty), and to improve it's self(something like the exocomps), than replicate the new model.

It's is a promising proposal, if you remove the holodeck of the equation.

underrated

>computer, find me a job

>What happens on the holodeck is not real.

You're actually going to try and keep doing this..

Okay, the SHOW is not real. The HOLODECK is not "real". But it is presented to us to be in compatibility with REAL PHYSICS.

Your specious analogy notwithstanding, your copies of the Sun, the Enterprise, etc.. aren't "copies" they are holographic recreations. Which is not what happens when things are replicated (a process that the holodeck does when creating the environments it's programmers ask for).

So your entire point is still-born because it's under the premise that physics don't exist inside the holodeck. Unless you want to use some episode where there was a writing mistake, the premise of the holodeck still stands.

The entire plotline that's stuck to about holodeck safeties being in place was also the writers way of saying "Hey look, this shit creates the closest thing to real recreations so our characters better be careful."

Also, I'd suggest you re-think your post since the power needed to re-create the sun doesn't exist on the Enterprise.

>its just a hologram. And if they all exploded it wouldnt blow up the ship. Because its just a hologram.

You need to go back and watch the entire series..

No wait, you just need to go back.

>override!

If you shrink the sun to less than 4 miles it would became a black hole.

No you cannot because The Laws of Thermodynamics explicitly make it clear that you cannot make energy out of thin air, it can be converted but it cannot be made or unmade. The suns would not produce any meaningful amount of power and why would they? It's just a simulation, not an actual sun. They can only produce as much as power as the holodeck is receiving.

You cannot flip physics the bird unless you're an actual fucking Wizard.

>But you can create whatever power source you can imagine IN the holodeck

Except that's false.

>But you can create whatever power source you can imagine IN the holodeck
What proof do you have for this? It's impossible for the holodeck to utilize greater computational power than the holodeck itself. The request would have been denied.

>holodecks and transporters follow the rules of physics
Go actually watch the show

He's on his way to being a wizard with pretend-posting status he's going for.

Kek

Did you accidentally reply to the wrong person?

I'm in agreement with that statement.

It's the singularity.

And there is no difference between creating a Moriarty and creating the computer in the original scenario and both would have the same results. The Moriarity is a computer simulation of an intelligence the same as the computer would be, just because it has a human form you think of it differently.

The reason the VM machine cant be more powerful that the computer running it is we are bound by diminishing returns in that scenario, with the holodeck you are free to create any system you like any power source you like any machinery you like better than what is running the computer running it etc.

I did

Computer, create a decent Linux distro

In voyager the ship was damaged because of a holographic explosion created inside the holodeck without the safety system.

>Linux
specify

>Computer! simulate Daisy Ridley's butthole while she's bent over and increase scale to 10000%

>go to holodeck
>create mass orgy program involving many members of the crew
>have hours of fun, jizzing many times
>time to leave, end program
>the spooge you released and was being suspended in the holographic characters' pussy/ass/mouth/stomach splatters to the floor.

So what you're saying is that it's impossible for the holodeck to do whatever because it couldn't exist in the first place. In which case this is >damage control

Done

Majel: Unable to comply.

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Go interject yourself Stallman

>"computer, load program Emily Blunt CBT session 5 and disable all safety protocols."

Moriarty is meant to be an opponent that could defeat Data, not the closest computing power to the ship itself so the argument is already flawed.

Second, the holodeck still needs the power of the main computer which is the point I keep driving home to you and it gets glossed over.

It couldn't happen. The computer can not create Suns or Dyson Spheres or a million enterprises because it lacks the fundamental processing power to do so, the ability to create that within the confines of the hologrid, and, if it could, it would lack the power to withhold the gravitational forces of all of the above.

No matter what ad hoc idea you plan to copy+paste into your argument, these things can't be created out of thin air, they need a power source capable of it and the main computer on the Enterprise lacks that ability.

There is no further argument here that can not break that rule.

Unless you want to head back into the metaphysical with mention to Q or "in the show, though, this one little thing happens" or some other nonsense that would be giving up/damage control.

I think that there's a cleaning function on the holodeck that dematerialize anything that ins't alive, like the replicator do with the dirty dishes.

>kde
>not xfce
get out

Wouldn't semen count as alive?

>whilst

harmful bacteria is also alive...

You should think through what you are saying.

The holodeck you are imagining where it creates things that have identical affect on the physics of the real world outside the holodeck wouldn't be a holodeck, it woudlnt be a simulator at all, how could it be if it creates things that are indistinguishable from real things in the influence they have on the real world. It would simply be an incredibly large fabrication chamber.

In the holodeck you are imagining where the holo-sun destroys the ship you could simply use it to create real copies of the warp core for example and draw power from then. If a holo sun generates enough heat energy and gravity to destroy the ship then the engines would work too.

Your holodeck actually creates even more problems than it solves, from the viewpoint of how things are designed in starfleet since nearly everything would be done differently. Anyway, the point you are missing is the holodeck the way it was in the show creates holographic copies of things that have effects on real physics on the world outside the holodeck. The reason some people get confused about this is there were multiple writers across multiple franchises who had it work in different and contradictory ways.

TL;DR - what you are imagining is not a simulator, it's a forge

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>That one episode from Voyager where there is a alternate dimension of people made out of light rather then matter.

I wonder if the photonic universes holodeck uses matter instead of light.

>Every time Diana Troy uses the holodeck she is unknowingly walking on a floor still filthy with all the cum male crewmembers have put inside of holographic simulations of her

Again, you cannot get more energy out than you put in. The power those simulated warp cores produce is holographic and/or simulated, you cannot use it as a power source outside of the holodeck itself as it will stop existing

>Computer, create one of those magic rifles that let you see and kill people through walls

Not after a few seconds.

And the the holodeck don't just compare with the database, it's capable of analyzing it and define what should or not dematerialize.

Like the tricoder, it don't tell you that every bacteria is a life form, it can discern based on pre-determined parameters .

>The reason some people get confused about this is there were multiple writers across multiple franchises who had it work in different and contradictory ways.

Finally a point I can agree with you on.

But you seem to be forgetting the ace in the hole here "safety protocols".

You are trying to tell me that when Picard picked up the Tommy Gun, until those protocols came off, it was just a "holo-simulation"?

Do the safety protocols create ACTUAL Tommy Guns then?

Would creating a Sun on the holodeck be creating a fake sun that appears as such, but if I turn the safety protocols off suddenly we collapse into a star?

They had to create real simulations like when Data fought the Borg and experienced anger. That's a simulation and, in your terminology, a "forge".

Data would've been killed by a Borg made of photons under the same physics in that situation if the protocols and power levels of the Borg were suffice to do so.

Where do YOU decide to believe that it can't create actual things as opposed to simulations of such?

If you say anything at all, including the Tommy Gun scenario, then your ENTIRE ARGUMENT falls to pieces..

well, other than the writers angle

Computer, access historical records, early 21st century and create Earth actress Bella Thorne. Approximate age 10. Use all available information to create a suitable personality. Edit the characters memories to make her see me as her father. Create setting, generic sterile surgical bay, 20 feet by 20 feet, fully stocked. Next to the supply cart create a pile of rope, 60 feet in length, also a roll of 21st century duct tape and a syringe containing a .5cc prepared heroin solution. Now create an Earth, South American adult green anaconda. Edit the anaconda to make it near starving. Turn holodeck safeties off and lock the door, authorization Riker, Zula, Alpha, Alpha, Zeta, Zero, Alpha, Zero, Zero, Zero.

>computer, create the inside of a black hole

>No matter what ad hoc idea you plan to copy+paste into your argument, these things can't be created out of thin air, they need a power source capable of it and the main computer on the Enterprise lacks that ability.

They created full complete copies of the enterprise multiple times that they walked around in and used systems on. If your argument was true why how would the real enterprise continue to function without devoting all of its power to running the simulation?

You are arguing multiple contradictory things at the same time;
>You couldn't create the sun because it would output so much energy that it would destroy the ship!
>You couldn't create an enterprise on the holodeck twice the size of the real enterprise because it would need twice as much power to run as the real enterprise is generating! The power has to come from somewhere!

These things can't both be true.

>"Computer, you know what to do."
>"Yes, Paul."

How does a hologram become smart enough to not be a hologram?

> authorization Riker
could have been a shit post
good job

dumb children

>computer scarjo face sitting sequence code alpha

>Again, you cannot get more energy out than you put in. The power those simulated warp cores produce is holographic and/or simulated, you cannot use it as a power source outside of the holodeck itself

So you can't create warp cores more powerful than the warp cores on the ship.
But you can create a simulation of the sun that destroys the ship.

Have you considered that the simulation of the enterprisex2 is the equivalent of a cardboard cutout and all the machinery/consoles are just "on".
Most videogames don't actually simulate how much ammo every enemy has because it would be too intensive and just treats them as having ammo unless otherwise stated.

they cant leave holo deck in tng series dumb kid only in Voyager.

I specifically said that you couldn't. I was arguing for your side that if the holodeck worked as you said it would, then that is what the effect it would have.
I said, and I quote;
>Plus if those suns are actually perfect replications then the heat and gravity from them would completely destroy the holodeck, if not the ship.
>And that's assuming the holodeck *can* do that.