Int, how can we destroy conservatism worldwide? It's really the cancer killing world...

Int, how can we destroy conservatism worldwide? It's really the cancer killing world. Almost all the world outside of the West are conservative shitholes and that's why we are fucked. In such a societies, government use religion, le traditional values and le ebil western influence and other shit do destroy free speech, democracy, human rights and install dictatorship of president and his friends, call any dissident "liberal" and blame him for working for the West. Meanwhile, president would have full power to do anything and does it usually to steal money, fool people and help his friends to get more property.
It's a thing almost everywhere, from Russia to Zimbabwe.
What can we do about it?

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>opposing le ebil western influence
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Masculinity and male chauvinism is the problem. Femininity is the answer.

Nice to hear somebody defending liberal ideals for a change.

People don't understand how good they've good it under liberal democracies. This new wave of anti-democratic sentiment is extremely short sighted and reactionary.

conservatism is reactionary
to destroy it you must destroy the source progressivism

or just put up with it

I agree

Fascism is a good option.

Nothing is perfect. Conservativism and liberalism have drawbacks.
The best would be somewhere in the middle, with as base commonsense and tolerance. I don't mind living in a liberal country, but with so many broken families it can't be good.

it's the only option.

This guy was right you know

There is no correlation between broken families and liberalism.

What does it have to do with all that? For example, women in Russia have equal rights traditionally, and it changes nothing.
Liberals are a very small part of our politics. Obviously shit we have is not a reaction. Rise of conservatism in the West can be explained as a reaction but it's totally not a thing considering Russia. For all our history we had kind of democracy only between 1992 and 1993 years - crash of USSR and Yeltsin shooting at parliament from tanks and establishing our current constitution.

The whole modern world is liberal idiot

Germany and Italy constantly fall apart. The Netherlands has been stable since forever. We really don't need preachers from failed countries telling us we're doing it wrong.

Even Karl Marx realized the Netherlands and the United States didn't need a communist revolution because we weren't such losers as Germany.

Yeah but this "source progressivism" is literally impossible to prevent because society is never stagnant. The only constant is change.

So I agree that you have to have to put up with it, and a dose of conservatism is healthy, but too much and you risk believing you know how things need to be, and enforcing that view through the only way to stop things in motion: opposing force.

oh yeah because the people in power always know what's best

>progress is always liberal

Wew.

This. It actually correlates to level of urbanization. In agricultural societies you need big family and you don't have many women to choose if you divorce. In urbanized societies those are not a things anymore.
Move to Iran then.

>Iran is a fascist country

Really made me think

North Korea is fine too.

Are you serious? Is Russia liberal? Saudi Arabia? North Korea?
As time passing by all the societies are becoming more liberal as they are developing. You can look at any country of the world and see it. There are periods of reaction but the whole movement of pendulum is to liberalism.
>dose of conservatism is healthy
Yes, but the problem is that almost any country outside the West has an overdose of it and it seriously holds back humanity development.

Well, they are not as fascist as Saudi Arabia and at least have some elections but they are still fascist enough. Ultraconservative religious theocracy is pretty much a synonym of fascism. Islamism is a kind of fascist ideology.

Anglos do that. If they have a negative trait they prefer not to tie it down to their own country. So they suddenly project it on other countries as well.

"Why does the western world have so much feminism". But meanwhile they just mean themselves.

>dictatorship of the reactionary monopolists
Kek.

>conservatism is reactionary
only if the progressives take over the regime. otherwise its far from reactionary. its just a sort of tyranny.

Explain what fascism is and its policies

Remember during the Sino-Soviet split both sides called the other fascists

We already did.

Because going by this thread nobody knows what the fuck it or any other political inclination means anymore.

Yet right now Iran is one of the most progressive countries in the middle east. Women have certain rights, everyone can vote.
The days of Iran being extremist shithole have ended with Homeini.

Fascism is an idea based on the concept of corporate state (family-state) where class struggle is denied and all the society is seen as a single body with common interests for anyone. To keep this society together fascism promotes traditionalism and religion. Also to keep the idea of state as a unite family fascism fights any movements pointing to social problems. Economically, in fascist regimes state and corporations become intervened so you can't really tell one from another. In a charge of fascist state there are always chief and bunch of his friends and relatives.

If you go too far left or right you will end up with the same problems.

Yes. Iran can be mentioned as an example for my statement: As they become sanctioned they had to build industry and develop economy to live in their own. Developed industry requires more urbanized and educated population and such a population is more inclined to liberalism than peasants.

In reality though fascism is always simply anti-communism, in almost all countries where it rose it was a reaction to communism and also caused by disillusion with democracy

>fascism is always simply anti-communism
Well, than you have to call USA and all the West a fascists but it would be autistic as hell.

Read further, it's anti-communism COMBINED with disillusion with democracy, and usually there's social upheaval as well

The 14 Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism


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Fascism has its roots on Marxist-socialist parties and conservative intelligentsia as it recognises class struggle and inequality but instead of promoting class warfare and revolution, it supports class collaboration dictated by a strong state and uses radical nationalism and/or fundamental religious sectarianism with militarism to keep their system intact.

Politically, fascism is just conservative right-wing modernisatiom attempt trying to implement old economic systems social values to new industrial system which replaces the old nationalist family values with urbanised cosmopolitan internationalism.

Tl;dr fascism is old traditions in new world and anti-communist at its core

Conservatism is good. We need a conservative revolution. To conserve our culture is most important mission of our generation.
"Conservatives" of today are only interested in conserving their power.


Right now as a German, I have no right to love my country, culture and people. According to the elite people, there are no German people. There are only "those who live a bit longer here" and "those who recently have joined". The German political elite makes no difference between Germans and migrants. Merkel has said some days ago that no little group in this country has the right to define who the "the people" are (she talks about Germans who go protest against Germanophobic policies and claim "we are the people!"). She claims "the (German) people" is everyone who lives here.

This will change as soon as the tyranns hang at the lanterns.

Fuck off Adolf, I mentioned in OP post that I wasn't talking about the West.
Also obviously people who have German citizenship are the people of Germany too, be they Russians or Turks, and have the same rights. They live in the same country with you permanently and have the right to decide what they want. Moreover, I don't know for Turks, but Russians in Germany are a drop of common sense and human in a barrel of German biorobot autism.

Forgot to write that:
I don't deny that in the West you had liberal governments mostly for the last 10 years and you would like to try something different, you're just tired. Okay, a bit of conservatism could even be good for you.
But things are absolutely different outside of the West. Here conservatism is the main reason we are in shit, and you're not. Government uses conservative agenda to rule people, to control people. We don't have freedoms, we don't have economy, government uses conservative propaganda and blaming the West to delude people while stealing the money and buying property in the West.

No wonder that you don't understand that, Timofei. Russia is a multiethnical and multireligious country since a long time and your elite is forcing the same propaganda like ours.
Putin even calls the Islam a "traditional Russian religion" and orders to build huge mosques. Astrakhan has only 14% muslims and still more mosques than public universities, even if the majority of Astrakhan is Russian-orthodox. Why not investing in education for the ethnic Russians?

Your elite, your government and your president rather crawl into the ass of minorities instead of supporting the Russian people. Your government rather invests money in churkas instead of ethnic Russians.

>Also obviously people who have German citizenship are the people of Germany too
Not everyone who lives in Germany has a German citizenship. Merkel sais about EVERYONE who lives in Germany is "the people". This claim sounds like the German people don't even exist.


This is not about a race war or genociding other people something like this. It's just about the survival of my family and my people.
I don't want that my children and grandchildren have to grow up being a minority in their own country.

How does he keep getting away with it over time?

>Russia is a multiethnic and multireligious
That's not true. Russians are people who lived in the European part of Russia. We have had only one religion since 998 and one before that. Others are just our colony. They have nothing to do with Russian ethnicity and their religion has nothing to do with us.

Try to explain that to your masters. I know the root of the Russian people. But now you are mixed Europeans, Churkas and Mongols. The original Rus people don't exist anymore. Great job.

I don't want the same happening to Germany. Look at Germany now. We have no colonies and still get flooded by non-Europeans. German families have worked their asses off just to get replaced by Middle-Eastern people and Africans sooner or later. That's injustice.

Reported to FSB for the propaghanda of separatism
>Russians are people who lived in the European part of Russia
Are you white supremacist? You speak like racist

There are still many homogenous Russians though. We don't really like to mess with foreigners. But it's hard to keep colonies nowadays, people rights and stuff you know. So we need to be one "country" to use their land and resources. Although you are right about Germany and I totally understand you. The only thing I don't understand is why other Germans don't want the same thing.

I'm a white culture supremacists.

Slavs all rook the same

>The only thing I don't understand is why other Germans don't want the same thing.
They have a mental illness, which is called "collective guilt". They are so ashamed of what the Nazis did, that they always need to prove political correctness. They rather hate their own people and traditions than getting considered as a Nazi. It was part of the guilt campaigns forced by Brits and US-Americans after WWII.

I felt this collective guilt too in my early teenage years, but after some time I have found out that the German history is much more than just those dark 12 years of nazi era and that we actually have a great culture.
What are 12 years of Hitler compared to thousands of years of German history?

No shit, we are slavs after all.

But there are no greater people on the earth than white people. No matter how bad things were in some period of time, our ancestors made it through everything and they did it better than anyone else. You have to be a real moron to hate your ancestry and feel guilt for something. If there had been no white people humanity would have lived like savages.

You're retarded. Of course Islam is a traditional religion of Russia along with Christianity. Russia is not comprised solely of Russians, we have many peoples. Islam is not foreign to us. Muslims aren't seen as oppressed minority by anyone. There is no difference between Islam and Christianity here, both religions are heavily promoted by the government and secularism is dying out. That's a part of conservatism. Government promoting religion while destroying our science totally. Russians, Tatars, Yakuts - we all suffer equally from conservatism. Just like the rest of the planet. You argument with Astrakhan is retarded. First, most of Muslims there are Tatars who are not churkas (Churkas are people from central Asian part of USSR). Second, having more churches and mosques than universities is a sad reality of Russia. And it strikes everyone equally.
Again, I was not talking about the West, situation in the rest of the world is completely different, no one outside the West uses identity politics, almost no one else has liberalism as a dominant idea. From Saudi Arabia to India and from Russia to Argentina, conservatism is a big deal which holds back the development.
You're an idiot. We never had colonies, never genocided anyone, we have been living together since ever.
>But now you are mixed Europeans, Churkas and Mongols.
So? Are you a racist cunt? We have many heritages, yes (Turkic is one of them, but it doesn't refer to Turkic nations in central Asia, it's mostly about Tatars). So what? What do you have against it?
You still need to acknowledge shit you did and do not repeat it again.

1) All races are equal.
2) Germans do not feel the guilt for "white race". White race is big and there are we Russians who were oppressed since ever, Irish, etc. You can't have any guilt related to race. Germans feel guilt and should feel it infinitely for killing 27 millions of us in a name of retarded racist anti-scientific theory.

Learn history, moron. We started as a tiny state and captured everything up to the far East. Call it whatever you want, but they have nothing to do with our ethnicities, culture and everything else.

>All races are equal
Compare Dutch cities to any African city. Really equal, isn't it?

There is no such thing as "white culture"

We started in a shards of Golden horde and conquered the other parts of the Horde and something more. You should be beyond retarded to claim that Russians aren't mixed heavily with Tatars and vise versa, that we didn't influenced cultures of anyone and didn't borrow anything from other cultures. The only people we have small links to are Caucasians (and well, Armenians are pretty related to us now). Denying tons of peoples are becoming mixed with Russians, speak Russian in daily life and often don't speak their ancestors language is retarded even more.

This.

I'm Irish or Russian, not white

Compare Ukrainian cities to Mexican cities.
You're an idiot, racism would make anyone Russophobe eventually because if you start explaining that some people live better than the others by their race or ethnicity you would come to the conclusion that Russians are subhumans.
This. Obviously Russians differ totally from Portuguese.

I've seen this Russian post this garbage before and I'm not sure if it's all just bait.

It's a bunch of cultures of white people.
I'm not saying that there are no influence in Russians at all, but we have our own ethnicity, culture and values. And if someone speaks Russian or adopt our culture that doesn't make him Russian. Look at other countries' colonies. They also speak masters' language and adopt something from their culture. That doesn't change a thing.

>conservatism
>It's a thing almost everywhere, from Russia
You don't know what does conservatism mean. I guess. I wish we had some.

> if you start explaining that some people live better than the others by their race or ethnicity you would come to the conclusion that Russians are subhumans.
Correct.

> if you start explaining that some people live better than the others by their race or ethnicity you would come to the conclusion that Russians are subhumans.
And we kinda are. We fucked up very hard and came where we are now. But we are still better than anyone we've captured.

conservatism is the definition of reactionary

because progressivism is the default position after the enlightenment

modern conservatism is just a continuation of reactionary since enlightenment back to feudalism, back to monarchism, fascism, nationalism etc etc

Colonies are places where locals are exploited heavily by masters and their resources are stolen. We never had anything like that for all our history. We never had segregation, never had racism. We are also all mixed together and cultural differences after USSR are pretty negligible except maybe some remote syberian natives and Caucasians. Mordvins, Tatars, Yakuts, Buryats do not differ that much from us.
>It's a bunch of cultures of white people
What's the point in lumping totally different cultures by the appearances of it's peoples?

>There was no slavery in Russia
>There were no racial tensions
>There were no revolts of minorities
Are you for real?
>USSR destroy Russian identity and mess everything up
That's where you're right. USSR fucked us up very much.
>What's the point of limping totally different cultures by the appearance of its people
Because they are superior, people who have them live better than others. You can call it a European culture of you don't like the word white.

You self hating morons seem to be ready to bend over for your western ""masters"". Don't you, faggots? You're the worst scum who hate themselves because of anti-scientific theory debunked thousand times and would sell all our country and people to """masters""". You remind me of American "domestic niggers" hating themselves.
What do you mean? Conservatism in Russia is:
Promoting the religion
Destroying science and education
Rejecting democracy, human rights, free speech and so because these ideas are "untraditional" for Russia
Fooling people with 24/7 propaganda in a TV
Convince people that Russia is a beacon of morals in this gay atheist world and you should love El Presidente and his friends while he steals the shit and tries to force conservatism even more, to descend people to the dark ages so they would obey to Tsar.

>Promoting the religion
Conservatism.

>Destroying science and education
>Rejecting democracy, human rights, free speech and so because these ideas are "untraditional" for Russia
>Fooling people with 24/7 propaganda in a TV
>Convince people that Russia is a beacon of morals in this gay atheist world and you should love El Presidente and his friends while he steals the shit and tries to force conservatism even more, to descend people to the dark ages so they would obey to Tsar.
Not conservatism.

>I don't know that we were pretty progressive in preceding centuries and could become a real wealthy world power, but some idiots ruined everything

I don't hate myself, I hate terrible people around me. Why wouldn't I sell them? God, if I could, they would be hanging at the red square.

We had slavery.. For Russians and other orthodoxes. And the slavers were Europeized high classes who treated our ancestors as a cattle.
>There were no racial tensions
>There were no revolts of minorities
Of course no. We were always mixing, we had no discrimination (only for Jews), Tsar Russia treated people by the religion, both the ethnicity.
>That's where you're right. USSR fucked us up very much
Are you serious? We have become a superpower and risen from a 35 y.o. life expectancy, famine every five years and 80% illiteracy to sending a man into space, destroying Nazis and #26 HDI in 70s.
>Because they are superior, people who have them live better than others
Do Portuguese live better than Japanese? Does Ukrainians live better than most of Latin America? Is Russia better than Southern Korea? And combo: why was civilization invented first in China and MENA?

>You self hating morons seem to be ready to bend over for your western ""masters""
Butthurt?

> who hate themselves because of anti-scientific theory
When exactly was it debunked? And it's not about hating myself poor people are poor for a reason be it inborn or environmental.

>>I don't know that we were pretty progressive in preceding centuries and could become a real wealthy world power, but some idiots ruined everything
Yeltsin and Gorbie?

эй pycня cocaть

What an edgy and cringe opinion. So you suppose you're somehow better than the others, lol? And you seem to associate yourself with "le white race", not Russia and Russians? You're kind of vlasov-tier cuck and traitor.
>Not conservatism
It is. That's how conservative governments outside the West act pretty much everywhere. And western conservatives are different only because West is too developed to stand shit like that.

>We never had colonies, never genocided anyone, we have been living together since ever.
You guys have colonised the land of mongol people east of the Urals. And what is Moscow? Those were actually Kievan Rus' colonies.

>both religions are heavily promoted by the government and secularism is dying out. That's a part of conservatism.
Conservatism doesn't need a heavy religious component. You are talking about archconservativism.

>You still need to acknowledge shit you did
The list of Russian war crimes is eternal. Seek the mistakes in your own people's history instead of judging other people.

>and do not repeat it again.
And you better don't repeat your red terror and bolshevist revolution.

Ктo этo y нac зaкyкapeкaл?
>Butthurt
Yeah, no one likes the betrayers you know.
>When exactly was it debunked?
antopogenez.ru for example.
>poor people are poor for a reason be it inborn or environmental
Yes, but you can overcome environment and not the inborn things. There are many stories of countries rising from crap, China, Singapore, Russia in Soviet period. Supposing anything is being "inherent" was proved wrong many times. It's either a racism towards Russians or Russians themselves justifying why we are in shit.

>We had slavery.. For Russians and other orthodoxes. And the slavers were Europeized high classes who treated our ancestors as a cattle.
Were there masters who weren't Russian it European?
>Of course no. We were always mixing, we had no discrimination (only for Jews), Tsar Russia treated people by the religion, both the ethnicity.
Ok, you don't know our history. Go read about tatar revolts at least. Go read about Caucasian war that lasted for decades.
>Are you serious? We have become a superpower and risen from a 35 y.o. life expectancy, famine every five years and 80% illiteracy to sending a man into space, destroying Nazis and #26 HDI in 70s.
What a propaganda. Good goy. You haven't heard about repressions and shit. And stores were full of goods. Fairytale, but a country. Also where did it bring us? And why did it collapse?
>Do Portuguese live better than Japanese? Does Ukrainians live better than most of Latin America? Is Russia better than Southern Korea? And combo: why was civilization invented first in China and MENA?
Not all white people are good and vice versa, but most of developed and wealthy counties with high hdi are white.

Ekaterina the great, Peter the great.

Good troll posts.

Colony is not the same thing as conquering lands, the lands east of the Urals were arguably colonies but the European parts certainly weren't.

Fuuug it if full of typos, sorry. It's hard to shitpost from a phone.

>It is.
No, it is not. Conservatism conserves some old traditions in the form as close to the original as possible. What do these things conserve?

Forgot Ivans who fucked the democratic element up.

I don't know if I'm better or not, it's subjective, but I don't like them and don't want to live with them in one country. They are running it.

>You guys have colonised the land of mongol people east of the Urals
Again, do you know what is colony? Conquering something is different to colonizing. In colony, masters make locals work for them, steal their resources, oppress locals. Conquest is just when you include new territories to your country. We oppressed no one.
Also from the people to the East of the Ural only Buryats are related to Mongols.
>And what is Moscow? Those were actually Kievan Rus' colonies.
It was not colony, it was one of the princedoms of Rus.
>Conservatism doesn't need a heavy religious component
Yet it has it almost everywhere. And I don't talk about Western conservatism here.
>The list of Russian war crimes is eternal
You know, we didn't kill 27 millions of people. We didn't try to genocide anyone. Most of the so called "war crimes" are just the western cold war propaganda.
>And you better don't repeat your red terror and bolshevist revolution
Lol. I am not a communist but obviously they have risen us to a quality new level. USSR brought thousands of great things to the world: liberated Europe from Nazis, helped people to fight colonialism and western invasions worldwide (viets wouldn't fuck American asses if not we), made numerous scientific breakthroughs.
Nazi Germany gifted to humanity only genocide and gas chambers.

Sounds like an interesting point, but you are wrong.
Kievan Rus' actually established colonies/settlement in the territory that later would become the Grand Duchy of Moscow... So they literally have colonised this place.
But I guess I know what you mean.

Those areas were already inhabited by Finnics, the slavs just intermingled with them and eventually either peacefully or forcefully annexed them. If that is enough to count as a colony then you could say that most of Germany is a colony too.

>We dindu nothing, Russia is a savior for everyone, west is bad
Oh my fucking god I though people like this exist only on TV propaganda

There are times to be progressive and times to be conservative or restaurationist. There are situations were radical change is requiered and others were a golde ratio must be kept.

Sounds hippie and aimless but I dont think you can deliver the world by trying to exterminate such basic and recurring societal phenomenums and create an eternal order from it.
The times people tried that were quiet bloody.

>Were there masters who weren't Russian
Tons of Germans, Frenches, some noble Tatar families.
>Go read about Caucasian war that lasted for decades
I said first that it was different with Caucasus. Tatar revolts were mostly a meme and were anti-tsar, not anti-Russians. When Yemelyan Pugachev revolted, there were bashkirs on his side.
>repressions and shit.
OH BLOODY STALIN! HOW COULD HE KILL HIS OPPONENTS AFTER REVOLUTION! NOTHING LIKE THAT WAS SEEN IN HUMAN HISTORY BEFORE.
>And stores were full of goods
.
Were pretty good before the perestroika.
>Also where did it bring us? And why did it collapse?
Betrayal of Gorbie combined with economy problems due to low oil prices.
Flaws you mentioned are bullshit compared to achievements of USSR.
>Not all white people are good and vice versa
But it proves racial theory to be total crap. It's history, geography and climate which really matter.
Actually Peter did good by borrowing technologies though, but his attempts to replace our culture lead to a total disaster.
>Conservatism conserves some old traditions in the form as close to the original as possible. What do these things conserve?
Actually Putin's conservatism is a combination of Chernaya Sotnya and Tsar Russia conservatism with Eurasianism ideas of Dugin and co.
How about fuck off abroad? We have been living together for centuries and some retard who hates Chuvashs and Yakuts would not change it. Even the most retarded ethnic nationalists do not chimp out towards anyone except Caucasus.

So, this is your point? That Russians have never colonised, but conquered? Oh, it makes it so much better.
Anyway, all Russians historicians and other serious sources talk about colonisation.

"The history of Russia is the history of a country being colonized....migration and colonization of the country have been fundamental facts of our history.."
- Vasily Klyuchevsky

>And I don't talk about Western conservatism here.
Then don't call it just "conservatism".

>You know, we didn't kill 27 millions of people. We didn't try to genocide anyone.
I didn't do that either.

>Lol. I am not a communist
And I am not a Nazi.

You go like "evil Germans! you killed 27 million people" and when I talk about Russian terrorists, you tell "I am not a communist". Fuck your double standards.

>Most of the so called "war crimes" are just the western cold war propaganda.
Winter war, Katyn massacre, red terror, rape of German women, gulag, several executions committed by NKVD, etc.
You have enough corpses laying in your basement

>How about fuck off abroad
How about you to go fuck yourself? There were revolutions before and there will be in future. Don't expect this corrupt multicultural circus to long a lot of time.

Sorry, I confused a little, I mean those were good people, lol. Now I understand you asked who fucked us up.

>There is no correlation between broken families and liberalism.
is this true?

Is for

This.
I've said that healthy conservatism is a good thing sometimes. The problem is that most of the planet lives under heavy retarded conservative regimes and have been asking for some liberalism since long time ago. We all should finally make planet a secular place. State and religion should be divided everywhere. No one should be imprisoned for thought crimes like "offence of believers", or being a liberal or confess any other ideology. We should get rid of dictatorships (not the way of western armed invasions). Everyone should have a right to say anything without consequences. People shouldn't be persecuted for being fags. Education should be afforded to anyone, internet should be spreaded to the most remote corners and it shouldn't be controlled by the governments. Science and actual knowledge should be promoted. It's not the western tier 99 genders ideas, but making that real would improve humanity a lot.

>Yet right now Iran is one of the most progressive countries in the middle east. Women have certain rights, everyone can vote.

But most poor people in shitholes don't want it, lol. Russia as example. People don't want to live better, there are more important things for them, like God, Majesty and shit. You can't just make them good. It won't work. People get what they deserve.

>American culture

>"The history of Russia is the history of a country being colonized....migration and colonization of the country have been fundamental facts of our history.."
He was saying it about colonizing uninhabited lands, fighting the nature and so.
>Then don't call it just "conservatism
Lol, why? You don't have exclusive copyright on political ideas. In any country any political idea is different but we can talk about conservatism on a world scale. And western conservatives differ only by being more moderate and less backward compared to the others.

>all this bullshit below
Most of this is western propaganda and it cannot be compared to crimes of Germans.
>long a lot of time
It has been longing for more than thousand years. We were living along with finno-ugric tribes since the beginning. And I honestly can't understand why do you hate someone not from the Caucasus. You hate peoples who were part of Russia for ages, heavily mixed with us, with a big mutual influence. I think you're some kind of relentless autist who wants to destroy our country and our people, obey to western """superior""" white people and live a hohol-tier life.
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What the world needs is liberal centrism. We need constant progress but progress shouldn't happen overnight.