Gordon never went back for Adam

>gordon never went back for Adam
this bothers me more than anything else

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Yeah it's pretty shitty but he partnered with jigsaw and rules are rules.

Never watched past the first one, do we ever find out what happened to Adam?

He's a skeletal in the 2nd

any screencaps? I don't feel like watching the second one.

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So was Jigsaw conscious the whole time he was in there? Or did he knock himself out somehow? Little foggy on the details

He gave himself a sedative.

Gordon died in that underground shit dungeon.

I know Saw 7 says otherwise, but that movie can go fuck itself with razor wire. Seriously. You ACTUALLY take the most popular fan theory and ACTUALLY implement it. Jesus Christ.

>tfw the lead singer of Linkin Park is in that last one
>AND IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

Why would you expect anything decent after the second one?

Yeah, I always assumed he died.

Shit, dude. I thought two wasn't half bad. Had the spirit of the first one I guess. Campy and pretty B-movie, but entertaining and an actually decent twist.

Three wasn't too bad until the end where the twist literally made 0 sense. It kicked off the trend of Jigsaw's schemes requiring him to be able to pull a Dr. Manhattan and see the directions of the universe.

Yeah, the last one was lazy as fuck. The actor clearly didn't want to be there. It relied on its stupid 3D gimmick that turned the blood pink.

I actually loved the second.

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I enjoyed all the Saw movies. I think they are well written and form a good narrative if looked at as a series, rather than on an individual movie basis.

I'm broken, aren't I?

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Didn't Amanda suffocate him first?

To be fair the second one had one of the best twists I've ever seen. Kinda goes downhill after that.

I'm with you m8

i feel the same its kinda nice to marathon them every now and then this with the final destinations as well even if the latter is goofy as hell.

After three days Amanda, who is Jigsaw's mentally unstable apprentice, choked him with a plastic bag.

Nah, I actually agree with you. I might be slightly biased, though, because I watched 3-7 in theaters on halloween night.

The pig mask gang up on Hoffman was a top tier scene though, you have to admit.

Was pig mask ever explained?

If you mean the significance, it was a year of the pig festival where Jigsaw kidnapped his first victim using a plastic pig mask. If you mean who the other two were, they were the guys from the mall trap at the beginning of the last film.

better than any long standing horror series from the 80's at least. though not as comfy.

I actually love the story of Saw franchise and dont even care about the gore or the traps

I genuinely watch it for the story and sometimes I even fast forward the gore stuff.

Best trap?

fan blade chicken

Reverse Bear Trap
Knives Mask
Pig Tank
Glass Coffin
The Bathroom

First one had that great suspenseful atmosphere to it. While I like the story as a whole, the rest of course suffered from a loss of that. Lots of little things to nitpick like acting, rushed plot, and goofiness throughout the whole series, but despite that I loved it.

adam needed to seriously chill out

>tfw based Hoffman would've gotten away with it if it wasn't for the meddling fanservice

What was his fucking problem?

I'd say he had all the reason to be freaking the fuck out

>Are we going to be alright?
>I'd never lie to you.
:'(

Why didn't he just cut his heel off?

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Never noticed the cuts from Strahm interrogating Jill where he has a gun to his head. Really neat. 1:03 - 1:06

>that scene in 6 or whatever where they're about to reveal hoffman's voice on the tape while it keeps repeating "right now you're feeling helpless"

Everything involving him was fucking stupid ridiculous and the best thing about the franchise once it went to shit.

Wasn't the entire end of the movie Adam being remarkably chill while the doctor went the fuck off

The Rack
Bathroom
Pendulum Trap

I hated them while they were out but after I marathoned them through across the course of a few days for shits and giggles I actually really appreciated how tight the continuity was. I have no idea if they planned that shit or just kept pulling things out of their asses but it actually worked really well.

>glares at his shriveled up foot
>doesn't seem to acknowledge adam at all

Dr. Gordon was a cold motherfucker. Was there ever actually any explanation for why he became and apprentice? At least Amanda's dependency issues and Hoffman's cartoonish evilness made it plausible for them.

He's a doctor. Having a medical professional help out with traps that require surgical acumen.

The breathing one. It's the only trap that actually freaked me the fuck out and the best moment of straight up tension since the first movie. I also appreciate that it's not just another gore spam like just about everything else.

Yeah I get that having him is essential for the more complicated anatomical traps but what was his motivation for going full evil? For a dude's who's sole focus was his family it seemed weird that surviving his test was all it took for him to give all that up so he could help his former patient torture dudes.

Jigsaw took him in after he went back to his family and ended up getting a divorce. It's the same stockholm deal amanda had

Why the fuck did Jigsaw zap him and leave him to die anyway? He said Adam succeeded and would be free but the key went down the drain. He didn't have any way to get out.

I loved the first and hated the second. I'd imagine that means the rest of the series isn't for me.

All he said was that the key was in the bath. Pretty sure Amanda fucked it up (intentionally probably since she has murder issues) and the key wasn't supposed to actually go down the drain.

Also, unless Adam's test was just to get shot at and whine, I'm pretty sure he didn't actually pass.

He was supposed to prove he would fight to be alive. He succeeded when he bashed Zed's fuckin head in with the toilet cover.

He never said adam succeeded. Adam's test was getting out of there before the timer ran out. Obviously he was never meant to escape by lock and key, he was meant to saw through his foot. Remember that no one escapes his traps without serious fucking damage.
Gordon's test was killing Adam. He failed but i guess jigsaw let it slip because he had the balls to do what adam couldnt.

>it's another donnie whalberg plays a douchebag law enforcer with too much screentime episode

>they're making an 8th one

Ok, so why did he even mention the key then? If Adam failed then Jigsaw should have just left while taunting him. If Adam passed then why does Adam going for the gun somehow condemn him to death? If he passed then Jigsaw could have zapped him, knelt down and grabbed the gun, unlocked the cuff and left before he recovered. If Adam failed then why point out that there was a key and act indignant that the guy you just tortured wanted to shoot you.

Ending never made any sense to me.

>acting
Why anyone would complain about the acting in the sequels after the first movie was lead by fucking Cary Elwes and the untrained Aussie rando who wrote the screenplay for some reason is beyond me

Hey guys
why didn't the
>i survived a jigsaw trap but not really
guy just put the hooks through his belt loops?

>why did he even mention the key then
I always thought the point of the key was the fact that Adam had a means to get free if he'd pay attention to what was going on around him instead of focusing so much on other people since Jigsaw's beef with him was the fact that he was a voyeur who neglected himself while stalking other people for a living.

But it's super bullshit since Amanda just chucks the damn thing in the tub and it goes down the drain with all the water so whatever.

He never even thought to check the U-bend

Can't wait for the big twist to bring Adam back and reveal that he was the dude who was stalking and photographing the marks prior to their abduction and that the dude Amanda killed is actually the fella from the short film planted there by Hoffman to fuck with everyone even more.

Because how the fuck else are they gonna tie it in? The 7th one was shit but it tied things up nice and clean, no need for another one.

Dunno but he was a right cunt and his qt3.14 waifu didn't deserve to get incinerated because of his retarded shenanigans.

jigsaw might be a sadistic fucker but he takes his own rules very seriously. if adam succeeded he'd have to let him go, that's the whole point of the game and the reason he was mad at amanda for designing inescapable traps. adam was too pussy to saw off his own foot and instead let gordon do it. in jigsaw's mind that makes him a coward and proof that he's not willing to go to extremes to save his own life, making him undeserving of life.

Well, if they're smart, they'll do something like this.
>cold open on a trap
>usual nonsense
>dude dies
>title
>smash cut to another trap
>dude dies
>have usual cop bullshit
>"there's no puzzle piece missing"
>"this trap was built like shit"
>they arrest a dude
>he's been reprising jigsaw's work
>whoohoo good guys win
>smash cut to a trap
>guy dies
>turns out it's a cult of neets that are imitating jigsaw to get revenge on high school bullies
>it can literally be anyone anywhere that gets jigsawed
Infinite spin offs.

I never did understand that.
Why did she get punished?
Because she married the wrong dude and believed his lies like every single fucking person that bought his book?

Jigsaw fucked up.

So if Adam didn't succeed and wasn't to be let go, why did Jigsaw mention the key at all?

"You failed the test. By the way, there's a key right there that will let you leave. Have a nice day!"

It makes no sense. You just said he's undeserving of life but as far as Jigsaw knew, the key was still right there that would let Adam go free and he brings it up. If Adam hadn't gone for the gun to try to shoot Jigsaw he (assuming key hadn't been sabotaged) just used it and left.

If he passed the test then Jigsaw shouldn't have just left him there. If he didn't pass the test then Jigsaw shouldn't have told him about the key. Just doesn't make sense.

The cross, obviously.

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Why didn't one of them just drop down below the sliding saw blade in order to let it go all the way their way?
Then they would have all lived.

Come to think of it, Adam's tape never actually says that the purpose of his test is to get out of the bathroom, and he has nothing at stake outside like Dr. Gordon does. All his tape says is something like "Are you going to watch yourself die or are you going to do something about it?" Considering the fact that he's not dead when Jigsaw wakes up despite the fact that there's a bullet wound in his shoulder and a dead guy on the ground in front of him, that pretty much counts as passing considering the parameters Jigsaw gives him.

The key was never meant to be an option. It was the hacksaw or nothing. I'm guessing he brought up the key just to fuck with him. It wouldn't be the first time, he was taunting detective matthews in s2 when he said his son would bleed out of every orifice.

It's a retcon, but Amanda is shown to carelessly toss the key into the tub because she fucked up all the games to make them unwinnable.

What confused me about the last movie was the fact that there were like three other dudes in pig masks who took Hoffman down. Who the fuck are they? Is everyone who survives a trap an apprentice or something?

She throws it on his chest with Jigsaw like right next to her and there's nothing actually mentioning what's to be done with the key. Unless they flashed back to that again later on, I never watched past the third one where they showed her and Jigsaw setting it up.

It's the two guys from

Shit I guess I answered my own question. There's our Saw VIII antagonists, boys.

That was something legitimately clever, it caught me off guard given how retarded every saw movie after one was. Great moment.

I always just preferred the first as a standalone thing and instead they made a massive franchise, the concept is cool and all but the way they were filmed was getting god damn repetitive

>victim screams
>SPEED UP, TWIST CAM ANGLE
>VICTIM SCREAMS AGAIN
>SPEED UP, FASTER
>SCREAM DAMMIT
>SPEED UP THOSE CAMERAS, MORE SPINNING

>goes for the original reverse bear trap instead of 2.0

based Hoffman

Game over

1>6>3>2>4>5>7

Prove me wrong

I'm still not sure why that kills you so quickly.
In reality it should only rip your lower jaw off

1>2>6>3>5>4>7

classic saw > hoffman era (plot based) > amanda era > nu saw (torture porn)

For being the most iconic trap in the series it has a terrible kill rate. It shows up three (sort of 4 with the short film) times and gets escaped every time but the very last when it was pretty much totally inescapable.

It's the teasing and eventual payoff. 7 years and we finally get to see it in action, it was even more gruesome than i imagined it

Because Hoffman's traps were retarded and so were the people in them

Hoffman either made inescapable traps or completely survivable ones.
No middle ground.

all i remember is there was a trap involving a needle pit

fuck that

>that thumbnail
Literally looks like something from a bondage porn

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>Horrifying traps that often involve heavy self-mutilation to survive
>That one chick who only has to cut a dudes stomach open for a key

Always pissed me off about how easy that one was.

I'm pretty sure that's the point since she's in the trap for being a slut which is kind of ironic since there's another trap where a dude is literally in deadly bondage for being a violent rapist.

Funnily enough that was Amanda's trap. Makes me think almost Jigsaw had the hots for her

Getting tossed in the needle pit was a much more appropriate trap for her even if it wasn't intentional.

Or he mistakenly believed that women, especially young women, are capable of empathy.

Something you wanna get off your chest, user?

I know they didn't plan it like this but it's kind of appropriate that she had to tear open someone's stomach after she caused that one junkie to make Jigsaw's wife miscarry by smacking her with a door. She's the reason it happened even though she didn't have to carry the weight of actually directly causing the wife to miscarry, so it works as a really personal sort of emotional/mental revenge.

Also Dr. Gordon's would have been just as easy if he shot Adam as soon as he got the gun but those two were awfully chummy for some reason.

I watched them all for the first time over a weekend and loved them

I IV and VI are good

2 is a mixed bag

III stars a fat retard who ruins everything with his awfulness.

V is like watching a CSI episode intercut with Survivor season 94

VII is a shit shaggy dog story.