2017

>2017
>not owning an AR-15 for self-defense, and to protect your family, home and country

What is your excuse Sup Forums?

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I wanna get one, but i don't have the money right now.

I finished building my lower, saving up for an upper

But I do.

>illegal (cuck country)
>expensive
>unreliable unlike ak-47
>i hate niggers

I don't have a family. I usually keep my doors unlocked, honestly, since I'm a single guy, and really don't worry about these things. If America gets invaded, I'll join with the military or whatever resistance forms, if necessary, and hopefully I get a gun. If not, I'll use whatever weapon I can find.

STRONG SLAV OWN KALASHNIKOV TO PROTECT FAT WIFE. NO NEED FOR PUSSY AMERICAN "GUN".

poorfag. get something better

idiot
it's your responsibility to arm yourself with the best tool possible

>>unreliable unlike ak-47
Was once true, it's 2017 now, if you spend the $$$ it's comparable, and far more accurate

i have a 1911a1 for defending myself, family, and home. the ar-15 is just a range toy. the better question is why do you only have one gun?

I live in Australia. Not needed because our government isn't subjected to NRA lobbyists.

in australia. best tool i can arm myself with is a barbeque and a pair of thongs

I own a Nazi m48 and its all I need.

Not really. I trust our armed forces. If anyone tries an armed invasion of America, they're getting nuked.

>poorfag. get something better
not the guy who posted the pic but fuck you guy, it's better than 99% of faggots you gun elitist cunt

>poorfag. get something better
You are aware that it is a $2000 rifle, right?

I own 6, 3 complete and 3 stripped lowers

Latest build

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Ar-15 is a aluminum piece of shit
I have an SKS for high powered self defense

>nazi
>m48
Did you actually go full retard?

Seriously, though, an AR-15 is something to have fun with at the range, or just shooting out in the country. It's really not an optimal weapon to defend against home invasion.

I have over a dozen guns. One of my AR-15s is my primary home defense weapon, and my other is my primary go to war weapon.

How so? That looks like a $600 rifle with a $400 sight on top.My acog cost more than the whole package.

living in socialist "heaven" sweden :( would like to own one so i could pick off some refugees.

It's called a Beowulf you fuck, google it

Because the Remington 870 is the SUPERIOR home defense weapon. Not has the stopping power and intimidation as the original block buster.

>How so?
The SA15.7 is a limited production run from Colt Canada. Thus, rarity dictates a higher price.

Dubs confirm

Fuck I'm tired. No no no. Why did I say Nazi. Its Yugoslavian

>It's really not an optimal weapon to defend against home invasion.

wrong

>Because the Remington 870 is the SUPERIOR home defense weapon. Not has the stopping power and intimidation as the original block buster.

no

>The SA15.7 is a limited production run from Colt Canada. Thus, rarity dictates a higher price.

source? its only $$$ in canada?

I mean, if your reasoning for wanting a gun is you want to go out and shoot people, then that's probably why your government bans them.

is accuracy THAT important when it comes for home defence?

>source? its only $$$ in canada?
Just Google it. Americans also can't import it.

i got a saiga 308. its an absolute beast. i perfer the rifle stock

But I do. Also a tactical shotgun and a bullpup along with several pistols.

I can't believe you seriously asked that question.

Knowing your target and what lies beyond is paramount. If you are inaccurate in a home defense situation you run the risk of harming your family or neighbors when you miss your intended target.

I live in a house, not an open field.
AR's are for faggots that can't handle recoil.
Pic related.

Nice! No Saigas but I have a SAR-1 and an M70AB2

Maybe, but I think a pistol would be a better weapon for extremely close-quarters.If not a lead pipe, or hatchet.

use baseball bat n fists for house defence. 32yrs still havent had to use them

If it comes for long distance yes, but inside your home it will be like 20 meters max to your target, one millimeter of inaccuracy doesn't make any difference

>Just Google it. Americans also can't import it.

So it's a more expensive weapon in canada, when i can buy a far superior AR in the USA for the same price. Gotcha.

my excuse is that my firearms permit is processing and comes in the mail in 2 weeks


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im planning on getting the smith and wesson M&P15 Sport NJ cause I live in shitty NJ

thoughts on that as a first gun? I can get it for around 500

Now that's a home defense weapon

Fkn assault rifle casuals. Get out of /b you gigantic fucking pussy, rpg home defence masterrace reporting in.

>pic somewhat related

tru, but afterwards, if someone were to break in, id rather their body be picked up and taken outta my house than have to deal with all the splatter of a shotgun hahaha

use 9mm hollow point fucktard, anyone that uses a fucking 556 ar15 for home defense even with hollow points is fucking stupid

just buy a M1A socom 16, kick ass gun for the home.

Any gun that's not c&r is for faggots

Because my PS90 serves that same purpose.

no maybe, friendo. an ar15 has. . .

>much higher stopping power
>much higher capacity
>better retention (sling, two hands)
>better accuracy (inherent to the platform and it being a rifle)
>much less over penetration

There is a reason the military and police use the AR-15 even for close quarter combat over pistols.

Pshh, fucking rpg pleb. Tactical nukes for home defense is the only true way.

I'd be more likely to use a gun on myself, than any home invader. Shooting can be fun as fuck, whether skeet or just targets, but people w/ a tendency for suicidal thoughts, have no business owning a gun.

Orbital strike master race reporting in.

Fuck nukes i got jesus on my side. All tactical like.

Btw the fuck do we have captcha again?!?!?!

>muh rifle cartridges
>muh stoppin power
>pistol 2 small

>mfw commonly carried pistols are chambered in larger calibers than .223

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stevens 520 tho

All the more reason to have a 9mm or 10mm or a 45 Cal stashed for backup. 30 shots from an ar15 should be enough to make any home invading piece of shit stop moving though.

mad that you were too retarded to realize you bought a .22 caliber rifle

So when someone busts into your home, you're going to go to your safe, unlock it, pull out your AR, and then shoot them. Meanwhile, I'll have my hatchet.

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No. I have my AR-15 next to my bed ready to go.

5.56 and slightly inferior .223 aren't lethal because of their size you blithering moron.
They are deadly because of their velocity.

Their speed is so fast it reliably creates large cavitations as it tumbles and slows down inside the target. It's an extremely lethal round given a long enough barrel.

Partly right. The legality at close range is attributed to the fact that it basically explodes. That is devistating in flesh and prevents the fragments or round from going through a body, and when it hits something like drywall it explodes into smaller fragments that have a much lower penetration after exit than something like a 9mm slug that doesn't explode going through drywall and is pretty much intact, expanded and at a velocity/weight that will kill.

I'm not saying I do or he does use a 556 ar15 for home defense I'm saying the implication that accuracy doesn't matter in a home defense situation is asinine at best.

You do realize that unless you have actual training, or the assailant is unaware, you're extremely likely to be severely injured, if not killed, if you use a bladed weapon in self defense?

And what the fuck is the difference, fam? A hatchet to the brain kills as well as three .380 rounds center mass, so why not increase your odds of survival and carry a gun?

your initial statement was accuracy doesn't matter if its for home defense i just said that was a fucking stupid blanket statement to make. Adding stipulations now doesn't change that.

cavitations equally achievable with handguns

okay, so let me correct
*ak47's accuracy doesn't matter in such situations, so there is not point in adding $$$ to get ar-15 or sniper rifle.

My house isn't that big. If someone can shoot me, I can hit them with a hatchet, unless I'm caught unaware. Plus, I can open doors and the like while carrying a hatchet, and be ready to attack, which I couldn't with a rifle.

and a handgun is a smaller package that is much easier to maneuver in the type of close quarters you would encounter in a home?
>Nah ill take my 36" ar15 instead.

lel

Hahahahaha
No. Not the effective near basketball size for a few moments tier cavitation.

but they use their 5000$ acogs for maximum accuracy at

I prefer handguns for CC and protection, but after i snag this 1911, ill be getting an ar.

but you can open a door while using a pistol

but for real he is right, you are much more likely to be injured or killed trying to defend yourself with a bladed weapon. The attacker can easily disarm you and use your hatchet against you even if you deliver a blow chances are first hit is not going to be lethal and leave you open to counter attack. If you think you are just going to hack away at someone I wager to bet you have unrealistic expectations of what it is like to be in a life threatening close encounter with another individual.

I mean ar15s are great fun and all and could be useful for defense in the case of civil unrest / rioting / looting etc, but not for run of the mill home defense scenarios, IE intruder in the middle of the night etc.

Because I'm a smart European who knows the police is more than adequate to keep me safe. Having a gun around is just asking for trouble.

My preferred home defense..... but ARs do have their place in that role as well

come to america where the police are more of a threat to your safety and liberty than most criminals.

"i dont trust myself with guns because i am bound to something fucking retarded" -europe

So what do you do if a criminal breaks into your house with a gun? Call the cops and hope they get there before a bullet comes screaming at your chest? Legit curious

this one would be perfect to comit suicide how much is it?

ballistic gel =/= human guts

and how will you be taking your 10ft pole into battle

small package = less cumbersome and 1 hand free if needed

easier movement close quarters

easily reholstered if both hands are needed

>muh slings

sure you take your time to throw a strap around your tired ass and give them time to come in and strangle you to death in your tactical undies as well

I'm happy to settle for a pistol as the best option, since that was my original point. As it is, in the bloody death brawl my hatchet causes, I will, at least, have started with the hatchet. Which gives me a clear advantage.

My 9mm CC and .357 bed side / fucking around at the range gun

I have no family or home, and I hate my country

Ah sorry didn't see your earlier post about pistol being better option. But yeah AR is illogical choice for bump in the night defense for the reasons in your previous post.

Use whatever makes you the most comfortable.

The rifle would only really be a pain in the ass if you deal with small spaces like vehicles.
Inside a house you have plenty of room if you manage your rifle correctly. Tuck your arms and hold it correctly.

Shotguns, rifles, and pistols are all fine for home defense. I have a red dot on my rifle and feel comfortable using it.

I have both rifles and pistols. Honestly I'd grab whatever was closer. You can one hand a rifle as well you just tuck the stock under your arm.

lol america is so retarded
why would you ever need a weapon like this? you planning on going to war with your neighbours?
the world feels no sympathy when your schools,clubs, and store keepers get shot up
but oh no guns make america safe right?
from what other people with guns?
and your gun restriction laws wont do shit, crims will gettem anyway because they are fucking everywhere over there

keep makin the world laugh merica, your going great

nothings worth your life user......

The criminal won't even have a gun to begin with.

"guns are against the law and criminals dont break laws"

Retard liberal argument. mass shootings and street crime are almost exclusively concealable handguns.
It's ok, yes rifles look big and scary. The world will go on. Our country was founded with big and slightly less scary looking rifles.

Cause I own one of these

and if that doesnt work.

You can't be serious....im taking the bait on this one clearly, but yes they can and will

raping children without a rifle on your back is easier.

turning weak side corners with a pistol is much more practical than with a rifle for home defense imo.

Even with practice and you are quick the transition from strong to weak side is going to be a determent to any surprise element you have on an intruder.

Not to mention if you are in truly close quarters the rifle will be much easier for an intruder to deflect gives them more to grab onto and if you use a sling to increase your ability to retain that can actually be a determent if the intruder gets hands on your weapon.

Just things to consider.

Nice vortex red dot

It's not about planning to go to war its about the fact you have just as much of a right to own one if the government / police do. Just because you have been brainwashed into believing you should not be allowed to own a weapon doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed. The problem in america is not access to weapons, its a societal and psychological issue more than an access to deadly weapons issue.

Thanks, I like it so far...