Hip-hop and rap are nothing more than aggressive and yet monotone lyrics, set to simplistic beats and melodies. They take very little skill or hard work to create and are subsequently enjoyed by those with no appreciation of skill or hard work.
Also, hip-hop and rap tend to be something of a catalyst for violent acts committed by these unintelligent, uninspired, unskilled and lazy people (mostly men). Ironically, were one to resort to violence in an attempt to remove said-problem (I can think of a few who'd be first to go), this would negate the argument, entirely. So, the rest of us just put up with hip-hop, rap and their followers.
There are so many wondrous things we've learned we can do with our voices, in unison, with other hard-working people who've been practicing until their fingers bleed, and there are STILL those who listen to people talking over a generic melody and beat? Don't you KNOW this?
>tl;dr: rap and hip-hop are crap.
Hunter Perry
dude, no offense, but shut the fuck up
Jaxon Sanders
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Cooper Bell
mad
Julian Miller
>blah blah I'm a white male blah blah
Juan Williams
What hip hop have you actually listened to??
Kevin Ward
yeh but it rhymes
Jason Wilson
you're most likely a failed singer who's mad to the bone cause ghetto niggers are making billions by making garbage music, beside that you're not that wrong either, nonetheless I however enjoy rap and hip hip music
Jason Baker
Okay serious talk.
Donuts, Since I Left You, and to some extent Clouddead, Madvillainy, Bad Bad not good and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy shows what is possible to do within the genre. Uncommon time sigs, uncommon percursion and instruments utilized in the making of the beats, different structure and all else, pretty much an overall exploration of hip hop as a genre.
Also there's some acid chillhop channel on youtube which is ok pretty interesting if lo-fi.
Rap in the other hand is difficult. Most of it is either self aware witty or gritty and violent. I think it is difficult to experiment within an established singing style. Most pop hip hop is really a combo of hip hop and soul plus rap. I want to think of an example for experimental rap, i think there was a the doors song that was kind of proto-rap but i don't remember the title of it right now and it was kind of cheese and not relevant anyways. But I listened to some Danny Brown the other day though and i really liked, the style of rapping is different, kinda of tense and crazy, and i dont know but the sound was fresh
In my mind both RAP and HIP HOP are urban, counter culture street culture strongly attached to a specific audience, much like Punk was meant for a specific audience (though punk was basically a rebel, simpler and sped up form of rocking whose singing style also wasn't totally specific). Since the core of the rap and hip hop style is so simple and specific I doubt anything can ever be changed in this aspect. I reckon its easier to give birth to another subgenre (like blue eyed soul was born to soul) than actually change hip hop
Lucas Price
>I have never listened to DJ Shadow, RJD2, The Avalanches, J Dilla, cLOUDDEAD, Shabazz Palaces, Death Grips, clipping., Kanye West, MF DOOM, anything produced by Madlib, Danny Brown, Busdriver
Why did you make this bait, user?
Lincoln Powell
wew
Nathan Thomas
HipHop was good, until the Jews co-opted it around 1990.
Still some real rap, but getting scarce.
Most 'hiphop' these days is propaganda and social engineering. And yeah, it's garbage,.
Dylan Lewis
this looks like le epic bait
Adam Wright
Okay. I'm sorry but I still love you thought.
Connor Diaz
Don't b8 me cause you a8nt me m8y
Evan Reed
>Sup Forums
Austin Rivera
Fuck off retard, don't give anybody irl your music opinions
Luke Thompson
>worried about people's rebuttles >posts copy pasta for b8
Cameron Allen
I can understand how some popular/radio hiphop artists can come across this way, and I agree to an extent. But to black out a whole genre as 'crap' is asinine and desu, lol.
Rap can be a lot of different things. Can it be shit? For sure. But it can also be poetry, truth, expression, and it can be well crafted. Listen to some of the better Eminem stuff if you absolutely need a white person
Dylan Jackson
Get to class
Wyatt Jenkins
writing' /po/' doesn't discount the truth.
It's literally been proven that the JDL was harassing and extorting Tupac and Eazy-E among others.
And if we're going to be real about it, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Ryder Jones
So do you listen to Eminem while in your sister?
Henry Wilson
pack it up mate you make this thread like once a week and get shat on every time, ironic 2012-era image macro or not