Is it possible to be a virgin and a sex addict? Asking for a friend

Is it possible to be a virgin and a sex addict? Asking for a friend

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Nice feets

Like it's addiction, but you're incel virgin, but you're still addicted

Your "friend" is than maybe porn addicted not sex

Yes, masturbation is sex by yourself.

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is it possible that porn addiction can predispose you for sex addiction?

no you're addicted to masturbation you pathetic virgin

>Addicted to something you've never had

YES

can you be a heroine addict without ever taking it? no. same goes for sex.

Checked
Can be but not need to

This is your current situation

'porn addiction'
the most bullshit term.

some people are hypersexual, or more sexual than others. which logically would mean they frequent porn/masturbation more often than others.

it's theorized that catholic priests diddle kids disproportionately because of celibacy, and maybe the lack of masturbation.

But what if there is no either sex nor porn addiction, but it is rather an sex urge in overdrive like people with paraphilia?

Not really
With porn you are addicted to cumming with your hand whilst watching other people (have sex, masturbate themselves or are nude or sexualy pleasing-looking in any way)
With sex you are addicted to cumming with a pussy/anus/mouth/tits (depending on what kind of sex it is; classic, anal, oral, tittyfuckin) you are fucking
The grip around the dick is usually weaker and softer on the later rather on the former making it unlikely to predispose you to regular sex just by jerking of, even opposite, since dick gets used to tight grip of hand making it unlikely to cum at actual sex

I have no idea what I just typed since it's 2 am and I'm on my 5th cup of coffee, so excuse my dipshit writting capabilities

it's called sexual frustration, common in loser virgins.

What about morphine?
If you get addicted to it and switch to heroine it's very likely you'll be fully addicted to heroine now

you're rude!

hope you enjoy your coffee, have a nice day user

>hypersexual
so then, it is possible to be a virgin and hipersexual, thus one could be at risk at being a sex addict

if you've never taken heroine you're not addicted to it. you may be predisposed to a heroine addiction because of the morphine, but that's all it is, a predisposition.

Not necceserally
Certain people simply like watch other people mate instead of mating themselves via porn or live action (sorta like cucks but they aren't in any form tied to the person that is being fucked)
And such situation is the closest to porn addiction (since live action is pretty much not available)

The celibacy thing is pretty muchup point, could be said more but no need to do so

>necceserally

Being predisposed to thepoint first consumation will result in complete addiction is almost equal to already being addicted
>almost
Bear in mind, a heroine addict can southe the craving in both heroine and morphine (although it takes more morphine than heroine), equally, a sexual addict can southe the crave to cum by both masturbating and having sex (although sex is more effective)

If you can feed the hunger for meat with both pork and beef, why separate them in addiction? Yes, beef tastes better and feeds you for a longer period but pork can have same effect.
Instead of calling it beef addiction/pork addiction just call it meat addiction

sort of, it's not really a question of being a 'sex addict'. If someone who is hypersexual would be denied sex, they will resort to masturbation.

tl;dr: "yes, but"

'sexual addiction' may not even exist. that's according to a new study. businesses who specialize in 'sex/porn addiction' therapies contribute to the blurring of lines between mental illness and a simple habit.

socioaffectiveneuroscipsychol.net/index.php/snp/article/view/20770/28995

if you or your friend is worried about 'sex addiction', read that.

It's a neccesity to be in lack of grammar correctness when you are on 87 planes of caffeine like I am

"Certain people simply like watch other people mate instead of mating themselves via porn or live action "

that's called a fetish, not necessarily part of a mental illness.

for instance, some men prefer feet over boobs, the same reason why some people prefer art over mathematics.

Being addicted is being physically/mentally dependent on something.
Being dependent on something is not being able to do without it.
Obviously he is able to do without sex seeing as he's never had it, therefor he's not addicted to it.

That's like saying you're a meth addict when you still have teeth. Not. Even. Close.

So boobs are math, feet are art?

Thank for the article. Your argument reminds me of DSM V definition of paraphilia vs paraphilic disorder (side note, hallmark of paraphilia is hypersexuality). Take for example someone with urophhilia. They have a pee fetish, but if that fetish impairs their life and quality of life seriously then it can be said that they have urophilic disorder. In either case they are hypersexual, but not addicts.

In both cases it's the addiction to cumming and the release of dopamine itself that follows, not the interaction with a female or a hand
You aren't addicted to fucking pussy
You aren't addicted to fucking your hand
You are addicted to dopamine that gets released in either case, it's just that brain reinterprates the path to getting dopamine blast differently due to different stimuli (grip of a hand is different from grip of the pussy, making a distinct difference in your brain how it got to feeling of pleasure, although the feeling is almost identical in either cases)

Equal to our metaphor of heroine and morphine, they are two similiar molecules with little subtle difference
They both have almost equal effect except heroine is slightly more addicting
But again, you aren't addicted to the molecule, you are addicted to the effect of the molecule

You aren't addicted to food, sex, drugs, masturbation, vidya etc...
you are addicted to the effect these things have on your brain

Get another way to get to the same effect and you are still addicted to the same effect, but now you have additional way of getting to that effect

>But again, you aren't addicted to the molecule, you are addicted to the effect of the molecule
Nice explanation. I think my friend will be pleased with explanation.

"Mental illness" is nothing more than a state of mind that isn't socialy acceptable
"fetish" is aswell a state of mind which isn't equal to the social state of mind (the hive mind) but doesn't break the point of being socially unacceptable

In either case it's a state of mind unlike the socially normal mind
Porn addiction is a state at which person "can't live without porn"
Porn fetish is a state at which person "can't finnish without porn"
Later leads to the former

>"fetish" is aswell a state of mind which isn't equal to the social state of mind (the hive mind) but doesn't break the point of being socially unacceptable
So if my friend has a fetish for pissing, that is socially acceptable?

It is socialy acceptable, after all they won't be presecuted for practicing it (unless it somehow violates consent and right of another person)
Pedophilia however isn't a fetish, is socially unacceptable and they will be presecuted for practicing it
>see the difference

Can confirm. totally addicted to "sex" and masturbation, think about sex constantly. Lost my virgin at 32. DID NOT CUM first, time with sex.

>>No fap week
>>second time had sex, still no cum
>>third time sex, got a BJ while jerking myself off, Came.

Admitted that my porn, and constant death grip cock strokeing was the only thing that could get me off.

But, My girl was like a 6/10 curvey body, nice tits, but kinda heavy. The thought of sex really turned me on with her, but actual sex was somewhat of a turn off. So theres that. I still have yet to be with a woman who I am really fucking attracted to. Maybe I'd cum without jerking off.

>Lost my virgin at 32
Where did you lose your virgin?

You're thinking too deeply into something that is pretty simple. He is dependent on masturbation, therefor he has a masturbation addiction. Calling all addictions dopamine addiction, is stupid, and unnecessary. Too bad, masturbation addictions just have to deal with the stigma of that label, because they're not sex addicts.

You didn't confirm anything
you're just saying sexual pleasure was impossible due to overly masturbating and death grip

how can you stay a virgin until 32 lol

No. Also sex addiction isn't classified as a psychological illness. It's something people say to try and make their promiscuity socially acceptable.

>implying things
He isn't dependent on masturbation, he is dependent on sexual pleasure which can be achieved via masturbation or sex
He depends on one of the two being optional
You are the one thinking too deeply into this
You are the one that has a need to diffeenciate addiction to masturbation and addiction to sex whilst all this time it's the same thing
>addiction to sexual pleasure (ie the dopamine blast received during orgasm)

newfag get out

It's more like an excuse for a stagnant habit
Like checking both ways before crossing one way road
It's an old habit you can't just extinguish but isn't exactly a mental illness like addiction as everybody tries to sell it

>at 32
I asume this is a street adress no?

He is dependent on masturbation. It doesn't matter the reason WHY he's dependent on it, it matters that he IS. Do drugs addicts go around saying they have a dopamine addiction? No. That's stupid.

They don't say that because they are most usually uneducated and due to a fact not every drug causes spike in dopamine but rather in seratonine, endorphine etc...
There are diffrent types of drugs that have different effects
There are different types of sexual pleasing (masturbation, classical sex, oral sex, anal sex, tittyfucking, fleshlight etc...) which have equal effect

Again, the only reason mind sees it differently is because it's achieved by different means

If a sex addict can't get sex in days he won't just stop with sexual pleasure, he will turn to masturbation
Equally if a guy is given possibility to have sex instead of masturbation (given that the sex won't give you stds or harm you in any way) he will turn to sex (unless the dick is too undersensitive that just can't reach orgasm via sex; ie the deathgrip in which case the guy isn't addicted to masturbation but rather can't achieve orgasm without it, and he is addicted to orgasm)

I stand with what I say, you are addicted to orgasm and not the practice it is achieved by

If he was a sex addict he would probably become a rapist or he would not be able to function properly. Nobody says "orgasm addict", nobody. It doesn't take an educated person to understand a drug addiction. And sex and masturbation are different, just because they both cause a spike in dopamine does not mean they're the same. Videogames cause a spike in dopamine, does that mean he's addicted to videogames too? No. He's a masturbation addict, whether he likes it or not.