looking for Dutch guys to gimme info on their superb country
will dump glorious moments of Sup Forums to keep thread going
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>be me
>fluent in english + some french
>major in law + minor in management
>badly wanna move and stay in the Netherlands
>saving money for a master's degree
>what are job openings with prospects in NL?
>what could I study that would enable me to get an entry level office job?
>what cities have young people and are not very expensive?
>any tips in general
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Dutchfag speaking. It's very bad in my country. The immigrants have taken over, the new king is a closeted homosexual, and the only jobs available are at FEBO and McDonald's.
You should also know that we hate all North Americans, those from the US in particular. It doesn't matter how white you are, we still hate you. In addition our women all look like Viking men thanks to centuries of inbreeding. They will gladly accept your sperm but it's not because they like you, it's a desperate attempt at survival.
You will probably enjoy the Amsterdam coffee shops for about three nights until you realize you're being screwed. For example the Bulldog on Leidseplein is will known for ripping off tourists. And the quality of our weed is not so good since we only get six days of sunlight per year.
You will need good English skills to live here because the Dutch language is very primitive; it is not possible to express complex thoughts in Dutch. But here are some phrases to get you started:
"Lik mijn reet" = "Hello"
"Ga maar je zus neuken" = "How are you?"
"Hitler heeft niks fouts gedaan" = "Lovely weather today."
I wish you luck in Holland.
don't make me take this to Sup Forums the slowest board in existence
OP please don't believe this its pretty shit explanation (we do hate people from america though)
oh that's a fucking bummer. i don't want to turn into a McDonalds cumslave
as far as females are concerned I have to say that in the 2 times I have visited Amsterdam and Utrecht I found the women to be not only reaaaallly hot but very agreeable and outgoing
as well.... could be because of Christmas vacation.. I'm Greek and slightly look like an evolved sandnigger wouldn't like to get hate. Rotterdam is top notch party town though if you get over all the disgusting Brits
Before you come here LEARN THE FUCKING LANGUAGE or your guts will be hayed for centuries
If you're greek FUCK OFF WE DONT WANT YOU HERE WE GAVE YOU ENOUGH MONEY ALREADY
I remember that even the hobos in the train stations speak english so I imagined I'd be fine.
this germanic runetongue that you guys call your mother language except for being incredibly difficult, also sounds like paleolithic roaring so don't know if I'll take
Then don't fucking come if you don't even want to learn our language
i'm afraid i'll need to borrow some more cash bro
Where do you want to live though?
I can learn the language through practice and in due time, but I cannot spend 3 years of my fucking life in southern european shitholes so that when I finally come to NL I'll be a fluent speaker
>still any ideas for jobs/studies?
I can get my hands pretty much on anything business related and any humanitarian sciences
Dutchbro here, hope this helps
>fluent in english + some french
French won't do you shit, English is a big plus
>major in law + minor in management
>saving money for a master's degree
expensive shit, gonna cost you about €2000 per year
>what are job openings with prospects in NL?
start low, end high. build up experience. accounting stuff.
>what could I study that would enable me to get an entry level office job?
almost any study ending in "management" or "science"
>what cities have young people and are not very expensive?
basically anything near the "Randstad" area, think of Leiden, Delft, Rotterdam, maybe even Utrecht or Amsterdam for young people. Not very expensive depends on your definition. right now im paying €400 per month for an apartment im sharing with 2 mates.
well yes, there's a difference between knowing the language and actually using it.
people won't speak english with you, trust me. If you refuse to learn the language then you'll have a hard time applying for a job.
Though, with the major degree you have, you might actually have a chance in some international company? I think that's your best bet, and I can't help you with it.
You're gonna have a shit time finding a good education in the netherlands without even knowing the language
We zitten vol. Opkankeren.
I think my priority would be Rotterdam but that's because it's a popular place where I have a couple friends. I haven't really studied all the places in NL but a city like Rot seems like a good place to start.. Any good suggestions?
Meh it would be easyer to go from something outside rotterdam so its cheaper what job do you have now and what is your salary?
For not from
rotterdam=cancer
I'm very low-maintenance guy if my salary is enough to pay for rent -with no more than 4 roomates- and groceries then I'm fine
very helpful and hopeful stuff mate thanks
Tfw people say rotterdam is a top notch party town lmao
dont learn dutch you will never fully master it. Most education on Master level are in English
i'm making about 700€ as a trainee lawyer which is jack shit but is a blessing if you're 23, my hellhole of a country has a 60% unemployment rate for youths
DON'T COME I am not kidding don't come its slowly becoming a shithole with all these immigrants fucking us up and saying every white person is racist
Dude you will NEVER and i am saying NEVER be able to come to the netherlands you might wanna make a lot more money
Also €700 is what you get here when your unemployed and a dutch citizen
Dutchbro here again
Well, reading your previous answers I would go for Rotterdam honestly. The best advice i can give you if you want to get a place quickly there is just keep an eye on some facebook pages. A buddy of mine got his place by just responding to posts of people looking for roommates.
to help you out, room in dutch is: "kamer"
there is a community page on facebook called: "Zoekt kamer in Rotterdam" which translates to looking for room in Rotterdam.
I would start there
if you really want to live comfortably you're gonna want to look for a job paying you +1k
You might get a master but getting the job is gonna be hard
This. Did the Webster Leiden MBA thing long ago. Dutch helps but you won't need it.
Incidentally don't do the Webster Leiden MBA, it's completely worthless.
ok goed, nou ff antwoorden dan
>be me
ok leuk
>fluent in english + some french
that isn't dutch, not even close
>major in law + minor in management
cool, if you're muslim you can easily be a lawyer or politician
>badly wanna move and stay in the NL
not going to happen, refugees have priority
>saving money for master's degree
cool
>what are job openings with prospects in NL
bad, job market has plumbed. low chance at getting a job, especially as an immigrant
>what could I study that would enable me to get an entry level office job?
highest you can possibly go, scientific university
>what cities have young people and are not very expensive?
anything away from big cities
>any tips in general
sorry bro, we're full
Geert thread?
This
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Why? everyone is Amsterdam speaks English even the dutchies fucking faggots cant speak dutch in Amsterdam
yes go to rotterdam its a shithole full of immigrants anyway
everyone speaks arab in amsterdam
MBO fag
Dude i am not a dutchfag but i do live here ITS FUCKIG SHIT no college will respect you or talk to you in breaks because you don't talk or understand dutch
gewoon WO hoor ;)
∆VMBO fag
>fluent in english + some french
Just learn Dutch or you will be purged in the race war.
>major in law + minor in management
Both garbage studies especially with the automatization and competition on the law market.
>what are job openings with prospects in NL?
Anything technical
>what could I study that would enable me to get an entry level office job?
Anything technical
>what cities have young people and are not very expensive?
House prices are retarded in the Netherlands especially since our government didn't build enough houses past years so there is a shortage.
You know damm well enough why we have a shortage of houses
ÙvA telt niet.
I read today that NL is the worst country in the world for expats. I think forbes wrote about it a few years ago.
be alpha man and demand they should converse in English
ow gosie ik ben betrapt morgen maar weer schoffelen met Achmed
Because Jews can't fly
OP here, I think you guys don't know how well you actually have it. Your people are really open-minded and cool, your cities are clean, you don't stumble on the feet of a stinking hobo every 4th step you take, your women are sexually open and you can leisurely smoke a joint like an upstanding citizen and not like a criminal. btw that's the image of pretty much every city in the EU right now except for your paradise on earth and maybe Denmark and a couple others where it is very cold.
so, for me, coming from where I do, any slight disadvantages that you guys view as negative are still a huge upgrade for me and my current situation... any1 working for multinationals in NL? Any chance you can set up some semblance of a career in say, the Marketing Dpt of Such & Such & Co somewhere, and if yes what is the city with the most international business presence?
UL, Den Haag
workingatbooking.com
Ignore the misleading URL, read the posting
Dude we don't want you here have to much immigrants if you came like 5 years earlier i would have helped but now we are just in a shortage the netherlands is not a paradise it is not a country where you can do jack shit and live a great life you we had to work hard to get our jobs its not as easy as going on Sup Forums and asking people for jobs
>your women are sexually open and you can leisurely smoke a joint like an upstanding citizen and not like a criminal.
not entirely true, but with this mindset... Rotterdam is the place for you!
>>what cities have young people and are not very expensive?
I can recommend any city besides Amsterdam. Rotterdam, The Hague, Leiden, Groningen, Utrecht are relatively afforable in rent prices for appartments and real-estate.
not op, but should we really stay away? it is that bad you think?
Ye most girls are whores there anyways
Where is OP from? If brown+colored person go to Amsterdam.
Right now it really is but maybe in a couple years when the shitty immigrants (that dont study and dont have work) are gone
thanks mate that's really helpful
Don't lie to yourself, they will stay.
so basically it is the same as in the rest of europe?
Pretty much
Deep down we know but we still hope geert will end this
They're not going anywhere. You have to understand: after WW2 it became politically unpopular to "send people away". And Holland was torn up from the war. So they brought their Surinamese and Indonesian colonists in, and let Moroccans and Turks in, to help rebuild the country. But they had no plan for getting them out.
I mean the refugees more than the actaul immigrants
where in Europe is paradise then, if not in Holland any more?
If you dont have any experience or a degree, your basicly fucked here and no multi national is gonna hire you.. most of the young folk is jobless because of that.
Maybee if you do an unpaid intership they will hire you (very maybe).
Look for housing outside big cities.
People are just racist when your not gonna learn the language so get studying.
Anything IT related in studies
Dutchfag reporting in
IT is pretty hard to get a job with though
Im dutch and work in IT. its a piece of cake
Someone has to do the stupid jobs
With a major in law you will probably be able to get a job with some big corporation pushing around papers. The great thing about the Netherlands is that even when you have a shit job you still make around a 1000 euros each month.
For places to stay, I would recommend a medium sized city/town, preferably near a bigger city: housing is much cheaper in medium sized cities, but you will still have some of the advantages of living in a city (good public transport, (coffee) shops, etc).
Also, don't listen to these uneducated morons that say you are required to speak Dutch: you are if you want to stack shit in a supermarket or be a salesman, if you have a good enough education, English will be fine with bigger firms.
You might need to update your knowledge of laws to include those in the Netherlands, there are some (allbeit small) differences with other countries.
Anyway, the Netherlands, great place to live, work, fuck, especially when compared to Greece (sorry bro), and smoking weed. The weed in the Netherlands is top notch, just don't buy any at tourist destinations in Amsterdam (or order in Dutch/have a friend order it). Downside is that it can get pretty cold and rainy here, and currently there are a lot of fags (like ) that enjoy screaming about nonsense and seem to hate their country of origin. Those people are a cancer, but you will not be affected by them much if you don't speak Dutch (and don't hang out with uneducated morons).
True, couldnt have said it better
>The great thing about the Netherlands is that even when you have a shit job you still make around a 1000 euros each month.
The great thing is that living is not as cheap as in a Eastern-European country. Basic economics. You get more pay, but prices are generally higher.
Probs not if he got the major in greece
We also have a show called "new kids"
Utrecht is a good city, centre of the country, a lot of young people and a great city
Depends. You can always just get roommates, and since OP has already written that this is not a problem, he could probably find some (granted, small) place to live for about 4-500 euros per month.
Of course, you won't live like a king. But it'll be a lot better than working and living in Greece.
"Utrecht is a good city" its a shithole dude
how’s this thing with flat shared in nl. Do people over 30 live in shared houses or flats or is that considered weird?
Fucking true i get 1400 a month and i lose like 750 on rent (just rent not counting other monthly expenses) i am poor as fuck
Don't listen to this sucker. Holland is great. Utrecht sounds like a perfect city for you. It's big (for dutch standards), close to every other big city, lots of international offices. You can probably start out doing service centre work, there are a lot of english speaking callcenters.
What would you say is a "good" city retard
Not to mention mandatory health insurance.
That is considered weird but around 20-28 its pretty common
Just regular houses. But mostly bricks instead of wood.
dit is aas
Fucking hell man ik kan maar niet aan werk komen
I don't know about universities in Greece. Maybe they are shit, maybe they are not. If you studied in one of these universities topuniversities.com
If you speak english you're going to be fine, but dutch people kinda expect you to start learning dutch immediately and to talk it at least moderately within a year. This is mostly because 90% of the foreign dutch people can't speak it for shit.
Topkek
Misschien zegt dat iets over je technische kennis
If you are over 30, yes, it's kinda weird. Then again, who tf cares? If that's how you have to live a bit for your life to improve, fuck that shit, just do it.