I've got two questions, as an individual considering growing his own plants in the closet, ive researched the different grow methods and decided on building a 4x2x6 cabinet and using full spectrum 600w LEDs. I figure ill have about 4 plants.
So the big question is i live in a state where this could really fuck shit up if i were to get caught. What are some pointers at maintaining stealth while growing in the US? Also, any tips on bigger yields and which strains to try first would be great. I plan on ordering the seeds online.
Also, do you guys think sessions will fuck shit up on the legalization front? He worries me big time, tbh.
Don't live in the US. Are they using cannabis sniffing drones and FLIR? >bump for intrest
Jacob Carter
I live in IL and if you only have 5 plants or less it is a misdemeanor. A fine up to $2,500 and up to a year in jail. First time offender would get like $500-$1,000 fine and MAYBE some probation. Look up specific laws in your state, a small amount may not matter....
Isaiah Butler
Amsterdam seeds online has a great selection and always pulls through for me.
Jace Harris
First of all, in America, you're fucked, so if you're afraid of the risk - don't do it.
Second, you need to take care of smell and electricity usage. If you've got roomies or neighbors who will rat you out, you're fucked unless you get ventilation. Now for electricity, while LED's are not very power hungry, it still leaves a mark on your electricity usage, so you might want to see how much of an increase you get, because that's exactly what they look for - unexplained burst of electricity usage 24/7.
Jaxon Perez
Jeff sessions is gonna prosecute marijuana smokers. Just move to canada.
Daniel Walker
Jeezus fuck! 600watt led? Do you have any idea how insanely bright that would be?
Easton Ramirez
cannabinoids are a way to destroy cancer cells the cannabinoids are bringing proteins to the cancer cells and so the anticells are attracted to the cancer cells and destroy them
Michael Thomas
Amerifag here, im not sure about the drones. I know that bigger cities used to do van drivebys that checked infared for heat from lamps andtried to bust operations that way, but those were big grow operations.
Also, a buddy of mine that live in IA says the planes there do the same thing to try to find outdoor grow operatiuons disguised as tomato plants.
Personally, i think if you dont sell it, and you are opnly making enough for you and yours, youre proabably no concern to big brother.
Adrian Cox
Has anyone been caught this way?
Jackson Barnes
OP here.
The pages i read say that 600w led is great for a smaller closet type grow. Is this not what youve found in your experience?
Josiah Nelson
I have never heard of a single person getting busted this way. Also US resident, btw.
Daniel Evans
Don't listen to them, you will be able to grow fine, you do need ventilation, but the electricity is no worries m8. A 600W set up is only like $25 more a month on my usually $150 power bill, no more than say, buying a new refrigerator or chest freezer. Now if you have like 3-4 lights going at once then you will probably be noticed but you'll also have manhy more than 4 plants and be fucked in the ass.
Eli Miller
this
Charles Rivera
How is the electricity usage logged? Do they write it down every month or is there a digital system wich will allow for algorithmic search for light patterns? (grow 18-6 hours, flower 12-12 hours)
Julian Diaz
I don't grow, but I know a bit about led lighting. 100w worth of led bulbs in your bedroom for general lighting would be uncomfortably bright. Even 50w would be. The yard light on the side of my barn is only 12. It lights the yard up quite nicely.
Colton Rogers
None of this matters, if they are going through your electric bill records for usage times/cycles you are already fucked and they are only trying to corroborate how LONG you've been growing for when they charge you. They look at that stuff AFTER they decide to arrest you, it's not used to find you out.
Justin Jenkins
Wow, ok. Those nasty fucks. Well I think some plants in your cabinet would be ok then. Police amifags love to track down people who misbehaved, kek.
this is what i would do if i was going to do something like this
tile a room *in case of leaks set up closet for ganj set up whole room for *flowers/vegs/herbs get some local seeds from other people around ur area they meet up and trade shit get everything together for both operations ganj and normie grow take pictures of the normie grow catalog all info bring that to ur electricity company there's a procedure for people that grow food indoors they put you on the do not disturb list. one less thing to worry about.
John Edwards
How the fuck does a pc power supply have anything to do with how bright a light is?
Camden Sanders
Ah, all right. But does someone know if an digital system is already established in some states? Because they're planning to do it where I live.
600w is not that much for OPs plants, a high end gaming PC has a bigger footprint on your bill.
Samuel Ward
As for your question about strain, you cant go wrong with White widow. ITs a perfect starter strain, practically grows itself and doesnt stink to high heaven.
Avoid pure sativas because they will outgrow your closet. Short fat indicas are easier to grow but often are super smelly. Try WW and move on from there by asking other growers online what worked best for them. Also, watch the instructions on leafly or other grow sites. Lots of info to be found there.
Liam Hughes
I have a few ebooks about cannabis growth. Anyone interested? Reply with whatever you want and I'll give you a MEGA link.
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Anthony Collins
Can anyone confirm this? Sounds bogus
Jaxson Carter
OP here. This sounds great!! Can you just post your favs into a mega for me? I dont recognize any of those titles but they sound useful!
Ryder Thompson
bump for ebooks
Luis Bell
It's taking some time to upload, but I'll give you the link ASAP
Xavier Ortiz
Do you like shrooms OP? They are easy to grow.
Aiden Reed
Again, for small operations that's not how it works. Been using single rotation 5 plants on 600W HPS and MH lights for 2 years never heard a peep. I know what the fuck I'm talking about. 4 plants is not enough for big brother to care about. It is only enough for personal use, the power consumption is extremely normal, no one will be looking at him unless he tells everyone about it and a friend snitches or something, there's no way they would "accidentally" discover his operation based on power usage.
Anthony Baker
That guy is an idiot, ignore him
Andrew Morris
yes. you can confirm it by going to ur electric company webpage and finding info about such things.
i still think its better to do a full grow you learn a lot and you aren't just doing something awesome to get drugs you are doing something something awesome and also growing drugs. I hate people that the only thing they have ever planted was something to get high.
Jonathan Bailey
Lumens are one thing but specific wavelengths of light is the main reason grows use alot of led. 600w is beginner's level for led grow lights.
OP, make sure you invest in some research before you buy any 600w, because say it has 200 3w leds(600w), doesn't mean your drawing all of that out of the power plug, a poor quality light might only draw 50% of that. Also if u got the money try getting a light with a good brand of 5w leds as they tend to penetrate alot deeper vs the same total. wattage of 3w led etc. And finally for smell carbon filters are probably your best bet.
Michael Anderson
That is a full grow do you even grow bro? single rotation means you germinate, plant it, wait until harvest, star all over. I don't have babies waoting to be planted when I am done harvesting because then I would be over the 5 plants rule in Illinois. It is a felony above 5 plants, not worth the risk to shave a week or two off the next grow. Hating people who have only ever grown drugs just shows your ignorance, that is the only thing they need to grow. You can buy food at the grocery store. It's like saying I hate people who only play Xbox but never any games on PS or PC, because why? Because fuck you, that's why.
Jackson James
600w led is about the same as using 300w hps.
Jonathan Morris
LEA here. I've never heard of this no disturb list where I work. Electric companies have in some cases provided information when they notice drastic increases in power usage for residential addresses, consider that an small-medium sized indoor grow op may run a dozen or more 1000w kits, which by night particularly (usually the light on cycle seeing as night costs are generally less) shows a drastic increase in power usage which is inherently suspicious. If you're only running a couple of kits it's unlikely you will be picked up this way. If it were me, I wouldn't approach the electrics company, it's probably not a thing, and for the size you're talking about it's not worth the risk, because there's a pretty good chance the company with inform the local police and they'll run a background check on you, if you've got any priors or even if you're unlucky, you'll become a person of interest and you may expect a inquisitive knock of the door or some mild monitoring to occur, which obviously is bad, you don't want to be on the radar at all. The smell as mentioned is the hardest thing to deal with, particularly in dense suburban areas. It's a pretty unmistakable smell.
Jose Scott
fuck you for thinking you are safe breaking a law its always a matter of time and NEVER worth it. why not just move to a state where you wont have problems?
Robert Williams
Thank you for telling these idiots. The usage is not drastic. When you hear of companies telling the cops it's because they rent a house and run like fucking 8 1,000W lamps in it and the entire house looks like this pic
Colton Taylor
cant even fuck with Sup Forumsros anymore ..should have let him go to the electric company with pics and data about his grow lol
Thomas Jenkins
Would be better to keep 5 plants all in different stages of grow, plant them 3-4weeks apart. Veg for 3 months and 2 months of flowering. harvest 1 monster plant every 1/1.5months. Its called a perpetual grow ;)
Cameron Flores
>always a matter of time Do you even crime bro? A misdemeanor would be a fine and slap on the wrist then you stop growing. They will never catch me because I'm not stupid and It isn't worth their time. It would be like busting my door down for theft under $300 or minor property damage. Stop being delusional in thinking every law must be followed always or you will live a boring life.
Ethan Brooks
Use autoflower seeds they only last for about 12 weeks so I can plant and forget. Only have to fill reservoir every 8-9 days and never change light cycle off 18/6. Tried other non-autoflowers but like the dependability and almost idiot-proof method of them.
Blake Gomez
You won't be able to bud 4 plants in a tent that size, just 2. All you would need for that size would be 400 watt sodium not 600. It will need an outside air vent like a dryer duct and it will smell a lot. Everyone living there will either know your growing pot or think you have a new pet skunk.
Noah Morris
4 plants and keeping them to urself should raise no suspicion
Landon Ward
brief history of a guy who just ran out of weed:
1/5
Parker Mitchell
2/5
Aiden Powell
...
Zachary Foster
4/5
Joseph Watson
5/5
Mason Cooper
all weed in there or mixed? doesnt look like you salvaged enough
Aaron Brooks
they look for grow rooms with heat radars from helicopter.
they look for where you're venting hot air out, so don't vent it out somewhere obvious
Blake King
>600watt led?
most led watt ratings are lies. The real power draw is usually around half that so 300w.
Matthew Lewis
Where is somewhere not obvious?
Owen Davis
idk i don't do it
Zachary Hughes
i made that little hash ball with the resin collected cleaning my grinder, and mixed it with some tobacco. last time i tried eating it but it wasn't worth it.
Bentley Hill
into the roof of your attic/roof
Carson Bell
>600watt led >4 plants Cleanse the Devils lettuce with the fire of holy light
Nolan Williams
I always hear "dont click links from Sup Forums blah blah blah". But I want these files. How do you guys determine whether or not to click?
Anthony Brooks
Carbon filters keep smell away while growing, always incinerate or otherwise destroy your trim, stems, etc that is the shit that will get you caught if you just dump it in the normal trash. DON'T FUCKING TELL ANYONE. Seriously everybody is a snitch. Stay up man
Matthew Howard
Did someone get the ebooks?
Aiden Walker
I've got a question related to urine tests. How long does weed stay in my body if I've smoked almost daily for 2 years. I have smoked since 1st of December (I did smoke one small bowl of kief on christmas day however) and my test is in 2,5 weeks. Any anons here can tell me whether I can pass or not?
Brody Brooks
i click anywhere since i use linux
Jace Taylor
My roommates PC uses more electricity
Michael Scott
your gonna have to have a tent/closet preferably sealed, go check out the fuck tards on reddit they actually do a decent jobe even for stealth
>/microgrowery
Nolan Miller
Is there anyway you can combine them into one download
William Young
Don't really have much advice, just planted some auto ak47 waiting for my seeds to pop.
32x32 tent 2x 4gal pots Ocean forest soil Gonna use GH trio nutes From start to finish it should take only 60~ days
If it's your first grow look into autoflowers, try to use tried and true strains like northern lights or ak47. Also PH testing your water is absolutely important. Make sure you do it. I'm just using 8 t5 high output bulbs, about 200ws or 18000 lumens.
Aiden Miller
you can buy home drug tests and test yourself.
Oliver Brooks
I'll see what I can do
Aaron Cook
Thanks dude
Noah Gonzalez
Uplaoding. It's gonna take 30 mins to upload.
David Bennett
Sweet thanks alot doing alot of research
Aaron Bell
I'm glad this had a happy ending. :)
Nathan Ward
Kek
Julian Gutierrez
half happy. a single joint doesn't get me really high in these days.
also, when i'm high my craving for weed is worse than when i'm sober.
Aiden Johnson
problem I found with white widow was air bud and longer mature time
Jose Johnson
Best weed thread in a while. I actually learned some shit.
John James
What do you mean by that? Op here, looking at getting some WW as per the suggestion of other growers.
Tyler Baker
You have that backwards
Bentley Ortiz
this, my partner grew the babys/veg stage and I grew the bud stage, cropped every 8 - 10 weeks. we did 9-10 plants under one 1000w hps.
Anthony Price
whats that
Gavin Collins
Resin collected from the grinder and resumably a piece of some kind. You can smoke resin if you collect it and roll it into a ball.
Though I don't advise it because it tastes like shit and gives you a dirty high.
Aaron Williams
Bump
Christian Watson
air bud= light buds less poundage they say 60 days but we found 90-120 was more like it, could of been the fagget that sold us the clones lied also. leafly.com/hybrid/white-widow
Dominic Martin
truth, don't degrade yourself.
John Perez
I highly recommend watching Mr. Green's video. I think it's free on YouTube now. I watched it and set up a hydro operation in my basement that I ran for 5 years with 2 4X4 tents, a few florescent lights and a 600 watt sodium. 1 tent for momma and clones and one for bud. I harvested about 6 ounces every 6 weeks and never planted any seeds except the first time. Used only the 3 general hydroponic nutrients and it worked great.
Ian Williams
So wold I be better off with a different strain? Which do you suggest?
Josiah Miller
Link?
Joshua Myers
Is this still feasible if you only have the space of a walk in closet?